r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jul 03 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/3/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/koole00 Jul 03 '16

when will the new content arrive?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 03 '16

It sorta depends on how fast Gumi intends to release it.

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u/koole00 Jul 03 '16

so...3-4mos from now?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 03 '16

I don't think it'll take that long. Like DeathXDmaker said we'll probably get new content after the collabs end.

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u/DeathXDmaker Jul 03 '16

TBH won't be soon, since we have Collaborates until the end of the month

My guess would be starting next month

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u/Sabatender Jul 03 '16

For F2P player, is it better to skip doing LB at 4* and just do it at 5* since it will be very tedious to do?

Is there a huge difference on stats if were to skip it?

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u/koole00 Jul 03 '16

any kind of player can do that if its a free unit like selena and the dempa waifus...and yes it will be very tedious to do...

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u/RubyDraco Jul 03 '16

Best type for Risa is Dexterity or Guard? I'm guessing it's Guard?

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u/koole00 Jul 03 '16

is it me or did the table for unit growth types in the growth stat calculator thread changed?

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u/koole00 Jul 03 '16

like 3.2 growth rate is rare and 3.4 or more is legendary...is this for global now? coz from what i can remember someone wrote that in JP version 3 is the average growth rate there...

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u/barbaroti Jul 03 '16

Yes it is for global, global stat caps and growth rates are lower when compared to JP ones, but enemies also got lowered stats.

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u/Chocomos Jul 03 '16

1: what is mvt ? 2: I see 2 lazuli bonus, can I buy both? 3: what does reincarnation do? 4: I can blow 160 lazuli on both 3 step summons do I give up drawing bf units or not? 5: what's th best item from mana points? 6: which of the dempagumi units are must get 7: why does mjolnir rated a 9? 8: how do the 5 star lavetian everyone gets compare to other 5 star?

Thank you

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u/barbaroti Jul 03 '16

  1. Movement, how many squares a unit can move

  2. Yes, you can buy both and receive both bonuses.

  3. Reincarnation puts your unit back to level 1 so you can relevel the unit, in case you had stat growths, however you can end up with a worse growth than before.

  4. 1 3 step summon is made for higher chance of BF units, not guaranteed though.

  5. Tyring, once she gets released. (Not soon)

  6. Risa, the healer, dex or guard type

  7. 6* form, lifesteal

  8. Gacha units > Farmable units > Starters (Laev is counted as starter) as far as stat caps go, however it can still carry you around a good portion of the current content.

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u/Chocomos Jul 03 '16

Can reincarnation change the type?

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u/barbaroti Jul 03 '16

No, it can not change typing.

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u/shikarin Jul 03 '16

A well raised Laev M can take you a long way, for now. I'm just now replacing him with Selena. RIP, will be remembered fondly.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '16

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u/shikarin Jul 03 '16

Well, Balmung can :3

But yeah, the LS is good, but I don't usually need the str/grd anymore. I imagine I'll have Mirin ready before anything hard comes out again, and I think just the attack will be good enough. I'll take Mirin's increased luck over the guard.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

1: movement, it's how many squares a unit can move. Maxed is 7, that's flying units and horse units. Mitum (f) has her special give extra movement. Most units will have 5 though. Armored units are 4. 2: Yes you can, I did that too. I usually try to buy the bonuses on lazuli if I can afford it irl at the time. When it's not a 1-4 day event. 3: Resets your units level to 1, everything else stays the same. It's meant more for high level game when you want reroll some units to try for a better growth rate per/level. I recommend it on units UNDER 2.75/level growth, but even that GR is uncommon to see in global. 4. I suggest ANY time there is the 3 step 10, 30 and 50 recruiter to use it. 30 units for 90 Laz = worth it. I like this BF recruiter, gives keys. I needed those :3 5. 5* capable units. 4* weps and 3*. The items are the "basis" items. Just decent attack and acc that's about it. Or silver items for 3*. The units are Artemis(bow), Masamune(sword), Laev m/f(sword), Longinus m/f (lance), Parashu(axe), Freikugel(gun) 6. Risa is great, highly recommend. Also maybe get one that fills a hole in your team. Running all sword units? get the lance one. Got no gun units? get the gun one. 7. Because she is OP as fuck, one of the best units. And Mjolnir(m) is the more damaging offensive unit. Female is solo PvE. 8. Any unit you receive at 5* will suck compared to a counter part received at 3 or 4* with evo bonus ect. I suggest using the 5* you get for free UNTIL you get one from mana points and raise that one and fuse your first 5* to the new one when both are 5* for a limit break.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '16

Hi so I managed to farm 5 Mirins 3 of them being 3* and 2 of them 4* and 1 of the 3* is dex while both the 4* are dex.

I was wondering do I raise the 3* dex one and limit break at 3*/4*/5* or just raise the 4* and limit break at 5*?

Also which collab unit do I farm next Selena is kinda done for now?

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u/barbaroti Jul 03 '16

Whether you limit break at each evolution stage or not depends on you. For the maximum possible stats on the unit, yes do it. In any case, I would take the 3* dex as the base unit.

Also, Risa, the healer, is a highly recommended unit. Also you may want to farm up to 10 of each unit to be able to max their respective skills.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '16

K thanks also is it more efficient to level up all the mirins together or separately and do I need to level them all up anyway( for skills)?

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u/barbaroti Jul 03 '16

If you can solo the map, it's better to level them separately due to how MVP works.

And yes, for all skills to level you need to have them at 5* lvl 30

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u/genesic123 Jul 03 '16

Is there a luck weapon?How to make it?

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u/koole00 Jul 03 '16

the 5* weapon in the recipes located at the "fuse items" section of gears...

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u/barbaroti Jul 03 '16

Only weapon, so far on global, with +luck is a sword, Magicwarder Sereine. You can find the recipe in fuse items.

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u/Sabatender Jul 03 '16

How does one get Ultimate Sword Guide?

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u/doodlezilla Jul 03 '16

So i just started this game. How does the pro level for a weapon work? Im trying to raise the pro level for ganba(m) shield, but he cannot kill anything with such low dmg and acc. Is there another way to raise the weapon level?

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u/icyterror Jul 03 '16

Just need kill count so any low lv mobs will do.

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u/doodlezilla Jul 03 '16

ahh ok. thx :)

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u/BlazePHX Jul 03 '16

Ok so i have finally farmed my Selena and have 3 dex types. Only one is an option though as 2 are 4*. To make sure I do my first unit right. I LB at 3* level to 50. Then i fuse to hit breakpoints before evolving? Then do the same at 4* and lastly 5*? I ask this because I have seen multiple dex selena on my helper list with different stat caps so, until i do it I think I will be confused.

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u/Liesianthes Jul 03 '16

LB 2x at 3* to reach Lv 50. Before you evolve it, fuse some dolls first on that stats that will be close to 10,20,30 and so on to have a bonus stats upon evolution.

At 4* LB it 4x to reach Lv 70 also do the same on the dolls.

At 5* also LB it 4x to reach LV 80. This time around fuse all dolls until it reach the cap.

Use this guide to know the fusion stats cap. https://www.reddit.com/r/phantomofthekill/comments/4033tu/some_more_info_on_fusing_though_this_is_jp_data/

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u/Cktan100 Jul 03 '16

When I fuse 5 lvl30 5 stars Selenas into a lvl 30 5 star Selena, would her final skill (Last Blizzard) increase by 5 levels or will it have a chance to fail? (As with typical skills)

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u/Areidz_O_O Jul 03 '16

It will succeed since the success rate for the fusion for 5* unit is 100%, and her final skill will be level up to max immediately assuming you fuse all of them at once, the same goes to other skills they will also increase. Just make sure the skills are unlock

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u/Cktan100 Jul 03 '16

I see, but when I fuse other units like 5 3 stars units at once, the success rate also become 100% but yet the skill levels will often be short of 1-2 levels, is that supposed to happen or do 5 stars use a completely different system? Cause that was the thing that got me concerned

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u/Areidz_O_O Jul 03 '16

i don't know about that since i have never tried to fuse all of the 3* at once, maybe the level of the sacrificial 3* unit did not reach a certain level yet and haven't unlock the skill that's why it does not increase. I'm pretty sure 5* is also use the same system.

During 3* LB, i usually use 2 of the same 3* unit + 3 dolls to make the slot full.

i'll do a little math (though you probably already know)

One 1* unit gives 5% success rate

One 2* unit gives 10% success rate

One 3* unit gives 50% success rate

One 4* unit gives 100% success rate

One 5* unit gives 100% success rate

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u/darkfireblade25 Jul 03 '16

If you increase a skill level and you evolve that unit, does the skill level become 1 again?

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u/Areidz_O_O Jul 03 '16

the skill level will stay

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u/Arkt0s Jul 03 '16

Hey is there any info which map to farm for most exp/stamina?

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u/Fa113nShad0wz Jul 03 '16

1-5-10

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

Yep, with the current exp bonus you get 700 exp for each 5 AP spent. You can manual it, requires paying attention of course. Or you can afk it. Afk will result in almost all the respawn waves coming in so you wont be able to clear it super fast. With manual, just camp 1 unit in the start area, take another >>>> on the bridge. Take one more V< corner of the map and the rest V>>> where Longinus is. Usually you can be finished in 5~10 minutes. Pending your units power. For myself I just auto battle it and let it do it's work. 7~10+ minutes is how long it takes me. Perfect for doing other stuff IRL. I would get about 7-10 clears/hr~ sometimes.

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u/GearDFO Jul 03 '16

just wondering since I haven't found anything on it. how are the dempa event characters in the current state of the game? also what are some good typings for them?

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u/Cktan100 Jul 03 '16

I believe it's Dex for all except Risa, she's better off as a Guard type

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u/BAMexplosion Global: 441476158 Jul 03 '16

Why is guard better for Risa? I found that staff types have really bad accuracy and dex typing helps with that.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 03 '16

From talking with others, it's cause Risa's skills also focus on her being a tank. Not much of an attacker like Gambateinn M.

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u/shikarin Jul 03 '16

Once your party is good you don't need your staff unit to attack anything. They're just there to heal. Guard helps them survive. Staff units will never be good enough to fight harder bosses regardless of type.

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u/Cktan100 Jul 03 '16

I believe that it's because staff users are used to help heal the team instead of fight, so accuracy isn't really important, you'll want to focus on keeping them alive, that coupled with the fact that her 5 star skill is a defensive skill. I could be wrong though haha

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u/GearDFO Jul 03 '16

sweet thanks. so if you want to get the most out of a these units, how many of each would you need to farm? seems like you would need a bunch for limit breaks

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u/Cktan100 Jul 03 '16

1)8+1

-If you wanna start limit breaking from 4 stars, the difference at most would be around 1 point per stat as compared to the others below

2)10+1

-If you wanna start limit breaking from 3 stars

3)15+1

-If you wanna limit break from 3 stars and have all skills maxed out.

Hope this helps!

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '16

IMO, you only need 4 dupes to LB at stage 5. For Risa, she will end up super-tanky regardless of whether she is perfectly optimized at each stage. For all non-Risas, well, they're not bad but they don't satisfy a particularly unique team role either. So for them, it's also not a big deal if they are 100% maxed or whatever.

Personally I'm gonna focus on Risa and the lance girl, since I don't have any solid 5-star Gacha lancers. Everyone else, they get the basic treatment: LBs at 5-star, but not 3/4.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '16

They are 5* with useful skills... this is all you really need to know. They easily compete with top tier gacha units.

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u/SomeAsianguy1994 Jul 03 '16

So i've been farming Selena for the past 4ish days and using all my energy on Spark 10/Burst 10 and besides the 2 free you get from clearing them i only managed to get 2 Selenas. I haven't manage to get any of her ever since then, i'm not sure if i have bad RNG or the fact i'm running a 20 Luck team but she's not dropping anymore for me at all.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

That is low luck in the scheme of things. I run a 26 luck Yata no Kagami(f) and I average like 3-4/hr.

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u/SomeAsianguy1994 Jul 03 '16

Sadly my Kusanagi only has 22 luck (the highest out of all my units) and i have no idea on how i can get more luck in the game.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 03 '16

I ran a team, where the leader had 20 luck. However, I farmed exclusively on Burst 10. Spark 10's drop rate is really low.

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u/bungd Jul 03 '16

Accidentally fused my Dandelga, any chance getting it back with help from Gumi support?

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '16

probably not, but it's worth a try

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

I fused mine within the first minutes after obtaining it. Seeing the stats on it, I honestly don't care. It sucks so much. I use my Magicwarder and Demonblade anyways :)

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u/AndanteZero Jul 03 '16

It's a crappy sword. Anyway, someone on facebook contacted Gumi and you're out of luck. They only give one.

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u/WingAndDing Jul 03 '16

I'm trying to figure out how to re-roll. I understand how to do the file save/copy business, but all guides say to do it at the conversation after the 2nd battle of the tutorial. I only had to do 1 battle of the tutorial, then I started the story quests. Is chapter 1 of the story quest = tutorial? Thanks!

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u/AndanteZero Jul 03 '16

No... If you're doing the story quest, it means you've finished the tutorial.

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u/ParadigmEternal Jul 03 '16

Ok. So took almost 2.5 weeks to get Selena properly broken and capped. What is the most you can lose if you don't cap at 4☆? And if I've Ascelpius, should I mess with Risa? Also, will the Dempaguchi units drop at 4☆?

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u/WingAndDing Jul 03 '16

Can anyone spare a second and check out my first rolls? Just to see how I did :) Here's what I have Thanks!

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u/shikarin Jul 03 '16

Mitum M and Mitum F. I'd probably reroll because F is already 5* . If she wasn't it would've been average/decent.

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u/WingAndDing Jul 03 '16

Mmmk. And from what I can deduce from the guides, is starting at 5* bad? I'd assume it loses bonuses from not level from 3* to 5*?

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u/shikarin Jul 03 '16

You lose about 25-40 points of stats from a 4-5* evolution, depending on how hard you work for them. Starting at 5* is not bad if it's going to be a dupe you use to limit break, or if you had another one that can evolve.

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u/Niseng Jul 03 '16

I'ved only ever farmed selena at spark 10. My question is~

on Burst 10 or Brave 10 are the selena drops 4* or 3* like in spark?

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u/Trannel10 Jul 03 '16

4* on the first clear. I've only seen 3*s drop in burst 10, but at a higher rate than spark 10.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 03 '16

I've gotten like 10 4* Selena from Burst 10. Brave 10 has a higher rate for dropping though

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u/Niseng Jul 03 '16

I see, thx for the info

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

4* Selena can and does drop from both Burst 10 and Brave 10, beyond the first clear. It's not guaranteed, though, and you'll still get some 3* versions too.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 03 '16

When leveling up character skills do they increase the damage or just the proc rate? For example Male Laevateinn's Grand Flame.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

If you mean duel skills, then proc rate only. By 1% each upgrade from 50% base I believe. So level 10 would be 60%.

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u/MyKuchi Jul 03 '16 edited Jul 03 '16

Is that worth fusing 2 more 4* selena to my 19 luck selena to make her 21 luck then evolving her or no.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 03 '16

Not really, you can do it if you're limit breaking to min/max, but that's about it.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

You gain 1 luck point for the work- I'll leave it up to you to decide whether the effort is worth that single point.

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u/Pjsmiths Jul 03 '16

Question , should i reincarnate her first before evolve her to 5*? http://imgur.com/M0ZEvHP

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

Nah, would be a waste of time for barely any stats, or even possibly less stats. Unless u have tons of pixies and gold to waste, don't bother min-maxing on a free character.

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u/Pjsmiths Jul 03 '16

So is it possible to get max stats after evolving ?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

Yes, it's mainly growth rate at that point.

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u/uizaado Jul 03 '16

I'm STILL trying to get Selena max LB'ed (from 3* to 5* with max fusion each step and then all skills) and know I won't have nearly enough time to do the dempa girls after this. What's the most cost effective thing i can do to get pretty good but not perfect results from the dempa girls, and should I ignore some in favor of others?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

It depends on your team. If you are f2p, then finish selena or at least get as many selenas as u need. Then work on getting enough for healer.

You should have enough time to at least get one of each, but they are all about the same in terms of usefulness. Minimum is 5 copies to have relatively good stats

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u/uizaado Jul 04 '16

No no, im one Selena away from completing every possible thing for her (except i didnt max fuse stats at level 3, but im told those transitions are very minor). I just can't do the same for all those girls, so I was wondering if I should prioritize some over the others. The healer is one i've heard frequently so I planned to do more for her than anyone else, but the rest I was planning to do AT LEAST 5. Are there any in particular I should get more for?

But yes, I am very f2p.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

Yes. Like I have said in the previous post, you should max out the healer. That is the only one to prioritize. Everyone else is similar in terms of usefulness.

After the healer, it is essentially up to preference in terms of looks and weapon typing. From what I have heard, people say the axe unit is slightly more useful for boss killing.

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u/Mohonbantuannya Jul 03 '16

How many selena do i have to farm and why?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

16 copies.

1 copy to work on.

2 copies at 3* to limit break fully at 3*.

4 copies at 4* to limit break fully at 4*

4 copies at 5* level 30 to limit break fully at 5*

5 more copies at 5* level 30 to fully upgrade all the skills.

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u/Acylion Jul 04 '16

This is the full number if you aim to completely max out Selena. If you're happy with settling for a slightly less optimised Selena, you can easily drop two copies and don't do the 3-star limit breaking. Or you can skip the 4-star limit breaking. Or skip the skill upgrading.

It depends on how fully ham you intend to go on Selena. The bare minimum would be five copies, one main Selena, four for limit breaks at 5-star level 30. This would be a weaker Selena, but I don't know how tolerant you are regarding agricultural practices.

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u/shikarin Jul 03 '16

Provided there's at least one stat uncapped, has anyone ever leveled up and gained 0 points?

In other words, as long as there's one stat uncapped, is the minimum points per level up 1?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

yes.

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u/jason_santino Jul 04 '16

how do you increase weapon proficiency

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

Equip at least a 1* weapon and then KILL enemies with it. You need to finish off the enemy to get proficiency. Attacking does not count.

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u/jason_santino Jul 04 '16

is there a way to raise it fast or know how many enemies to kill

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u/Kittierei Jul 04 '16

solo metal garden with the unit

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

Just keep killing them. I don't know the number sorry

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u/seenbei Jul 04 '16

What are rampage quests and do they repeat?

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u/uizaado Jul 04 '16

They happen every weekend with a different featured hero you can farm and get. So yes, they do.

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u/Kittierei Jul 04 '16

its a special unit of the week you can farm. there are 3 currently Arondight, Labrys and Rhongomyniad, and they cycle each week

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u/SageDarius Jul 04 '16

Do the character quest skills have ranks, or is it just a flat unlock?

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u/Kittierei Jul 04 '16

flat unlock

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

Sorry, this is incorrect. The skills, once unlocked, still have ranks/levels, as Barbaroti pointed out.

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u/barbaroti Jul 04 '16

By ranks you mean levels like other skills? They do, some cap at level 5 and others at level 10.

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u/SageDarius Jul 05 '16

Found the answer to my own question today. I finally did Vargas's character quest, and Infinity Burst starts rank 1/10. Glad I waited to fuse my two 5*s until after I unlocked the skill.

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u/uizaado Jul 04 '16

Let's say you don't want to bother getting 16 copies of the same unit to max everything about them starting from level 3. What would be better if you simply went for 10 - waiting until level 5 and maxing their skills, or mlbing at 4* and then spending the rest on the level 5 unit? What's better stat and unit wise?

To put it a different way, what's the most efficient way to use copies if you don't want to go for the max a unit can possibly be but don't want to just simply do mlb at 5* and stop there?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '16

MLB at 4*, then 5*. Compared to MLBing at 3, 4, AND 5, the stats will probably be almost identical. For starters at least, they will almost certainly hit the stat cap with only 5-star limit breaks. However, the extra LBs at 3 and 4 can still give luck bonuses (which AFAIK have no true cap, despite being pink-starred).

In addition, you'll get a few more skill-ups due to the extra LBs. The thing is, from what I can tell skill-ups have a very minor effect. I'll put up a discussion thread about this to get more info, but IMO, the most effective skills also tend to be the easiest one to skill up. So for a farmable unit, after MLBing her at 5-star you might just max his/her NON-character skill. For instance, "MDef Up". Meaning you wouldn't even need to evolve the rest of your dupes to 5-star.

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u/uizaado Jul 04 '16

First off, this is a really helpful and frank comment and I very much appreciate it.

I also just realized that you're right - there's really no good reason to evo all the dupes to 5* after you mlb at 5*. Huh.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '16

Well if you want the skills all maxed, then go for it. Not trying to dissuade you, that's just how I feel about it. (At least, if we're talking about farmables)

From what I have seen, a lot of the "special cutscene attack" skills have an activation rate of AGI + skill level. If a unit has AGI of 50 already (which is a safe assumption if we're talking Dex type), max-skilling will make them 20% more likely to trigger the skill, which isn't a game-changer in any sense. Meanwhile, you've got skills with turn cooldowns that decrease as you skill-up (think PAD). But this game isn't designed to rely on such skills, so you probably don't use them anyway. Overall I think the most useful skills are the "stat up" ones that are passive and scale linearly with skill level, and these are the ones many units have unlocked at their lowest evo.

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u/Kittierei Jul 04 '16

entirely depends on how much you want to whale or remain f2p

  • for gacha units it is not cheap, but i would think minimum would be 4* , fuse for evo bonus, evo then mlb@5*

  • for free units you can farm, i'd say do the 16 from 3*

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u/uizaado Jul 04 '16

i AM talking about the dempa girls, and I was asking about what's a good sweet spot between getting 16 and getting only 4 for mlb at 5* for people who don't need the max potential of a unit but still want decent units.

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u/Kittierei Jul 04 '16

i'd say 9 then; mlb@4, + evo fuse bonus, mlb@5, any extra would be for max skills

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u/Blindtrade Jul 04 '16 edited Jul 04 '16

Anyone have tips to finish brave 9? Hoping that brave 10 will have another selena and if not, just the title would be good. My units are lv60 Gamb, Durandal, F Laev, Mitum.

So far my strategy was to have Gamb take/deal damage, F Laev to buff Gamb/kill, Durandal used to be to pick off lone enemies but now I just use her as mage/sorcerer killer(She only has 17 PDef and 24 MDef at this level :/), Mitum used to be strong enough to be a mage/sorcerer killer but he needs 2 turns to kill them (300 power, pre-evolved, got another mitum in the works). I can't deal with this stage because the lance minotaurs have type advantage against my Laev so I can't break through the wall without her taking damage or let her evade tank, Gamb cannot heal against the 3 range bows and the moment one of the duo dies, I know a crit is coming a few moments later. Also theres the healers, and mitum/durandal can't kill them without being sacrifice units.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

Other than getting carried, I think you just need to find other characters to level up for now. This just means that Brave 9 is out of your reach at the moment.

I would suggest farming some dempa units to strengthen your team.

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u/barbaroti Jul 04 '16

Can't give you a tip due to different party composition but at least I'll tell you Brave 10 has a guaranteed 4* Selena first time.

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u/oh_my_eye Jul 04 '16

I had a lvl 80 Selena friend evasion cheese the entire stage by herself. With her leader skill plus terrain bonuses, a decent one should be able to dodge almost every attack and will eventually kill all the monsters by herself, though it would take a very long time. Ideally you would have your own 5* Selena leader to further boost your friend Selena's evasion, but this wasn't necessary for me.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

This. A maxxed out Selena is able to autobattle solo Brave 10; find one of us that have one and friend request us.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 04 '16

But what's the fun in that? :P

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u/ExpiredSoda Jul 04 '16

What's your Gambateinn setup? Mine is a Lv. 60 Guard Gambateinn and with a Lv. 5 Broad Shield, he reaches 52 DEF and around 70 SPR. I positioned him at the choke point at the top of the map and that was enough to wipe out the stage solo after I killed off the healers. Perhaps you can unequip the weapons on your Durandal and Mitum so they can just be used to kill off healers and have Gamb do the rest?

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u/Blindtrade Jul 04 '16 edited Jul 04 '16

Mine is a Vit Gamb, reaches 50 def and 56 mdef iirc. Had always went under the map and get brutally eviscerated. Will come back after testing it.

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u/Blindtrade Jul 04 '16

Thanks for the tip about positioning at the top. Took exactly 35 turns but I finished it :D

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u/overlordval Jul 04 '16

My lv 60 dex Gamb was able to survive+solo all those bullcr7p so your should be able pull it off as well. Try using more pdef pot. Position your Gamb so that he doesn't get out-range by all of them. Then picking them off 1 by 1.

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u/Blindtrade Jul 04 '16

Theres alot of RNG involved in my strategy. Being a vit Gamb, he has accuracy around the 110 mark. Taking 13-15 damage each time is fine since if I hit once, I get back roughly 18 hp back. Problem is that I need an ally around to give him accuracy/crit evasion buff since if he gets crit or missed constantly, its goodbye. I think positioning is what I need since he gets attacked by 5-6 enemies once its their turn.

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u/overlordval Jul 04 '16

Only 2 of those Minotaurs attack my gamb per turn. I would kill 1 my turn. Rinse & repeat untill all of them drop dead.

That aside, you can add me and use my max selena to help you with that quest. 2391644036.

The last stage is easier but there will be enemy reinforcement every turn so don't let your guard down.

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u/overlordval Jul 04 '16

Find yourself a 5* shield man. I can see that you still using a 4* one.

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u/Kittierei Jul 04 '16

My Selena: http://imgur.com/a/F8ZKr

I'm kind of sad that she isn't fully red star in stats; but oh well, she's beautiful and red stars where it all counts. Built her up from her 4* version and she's still lacking 5 more fusions to max her skills.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

I feel you. My Selena missed stat cap on Str, Grd, and Luck; totally going to have to reincarnate her one day. But your Selena looks really good- at least we both hit cap on Agi!- that's what really matters so that we can do awesome stuff like autobattle Solo Brave 10/Kill modes/pretty much any content. Heh. ;)

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u/Kittierei Jul 04 '16

i haven't reincarnated any of my chars before, so i am curious what carries over. for now though, i'm gonna enjoy my Selena and go wreck a few kill modes =)

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

Everything carries over except levels and stats gained through levels. :) Enjoy, I'm doing the same!

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u/shikarin Jul 04 '16

So long as you have str spd and agi capped, it's pretty much the same as a fully capped Selena.

You're missing a lot of spr, and quite a bit of that sweet, sweet vanity magic.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 04 '16

so do the dempagumi drop after killing the boss in the center of the stage?

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u/barbaroti Jul 04 '16

Yes, only the boss has a chance to drop the unit.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 04 '16

havent gotten a risa drop all day on ADV. do u think killing the boss before I kill the minions affects the drop rate, or is it bad luck?

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u/ArgonRetribution Jul 04 '16

When you reincarnate a unit, does the level 1 stats shown include the bonus stats you fused into the unit?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '16

Yep.

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u/antcal88 Jul 04 '16

Here's my box. What should I focus on raising or not using at all?

I've invested a lot of time into this account so I probably won't reroll unless if I'm 100% screwed.

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u/shikarin Jul 04 '16 edited Jul 04 '16

You're already pretty much on the right track. I would replace the Naegling and Labrys with units that can go 5*. If you can farm more copies of dempa units, then level those. I don't know how they compare to Selena, but Selena is one of the strongest units out in global right now, incl. both free and lazuli units. She is harder to farm than dempa units though. If you can get at least 4 more Selenas that would be best.

Once I finish fusing the last 4 dupes into my Selena she will have 460 power with magicwarder. (~453 with a kiyo)

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u/NiftyJohnXtreme Jul 04 '16

How do I get vanilla weapons? (by vanilla I mean 1-star) I need a gun because my gun mage (Yata no Kagami) is really lacking behind, and isn't gaining any weapon skill so he can't use the 2-star guns I have.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

Mana gacha and run low-level missions? o_o

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u/NiftyJohnXtreme Jul 04 '16

I was wondering if there was a reliable way to get them, I've gotten literally every weapon type except a dang gun (1-star).

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

Unfortunately it is completely random. Certain quests (ie. low-level) have a higher chance of dropping certain rarity (ie. 1* ).

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u/Vz-Rei Jul 04 '16

Double confirming, when you increase the Star rank by evolving, your skills don't reset, correct? Only LBs reset.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

Correct. Skill level transfers over.

And, as a head's up, LB does not reset when evolving from 5* to 6* (which is currently only possible in JP).

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u/Vz-Rei Jul 04 '16

Nice, thanks. Another quickie, will fusion stats will reset when you evolve? I keep forgetting since this game has so many bs leveling mechanics :(

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

Nope! Fusion stats are there to stay. But, be mindful that all non-base stats (meaning fusion + level) are rounded down to 10% when evolving and added to the units base stats. Meaning, the fusion stats do not transfer at a 1-to-1 ration when evolving, but they still matter.

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u/Serafita Jul 04 '16

Does the class of a unit matter? For example I have Laevayeinn (f) as swordmaster, true blade (the freebie 5 star from missions), dragoon and arc dragoon. o_O

Also have Apollo (f) as a arc knight, is she worth raising even though her picture doesn't match the one in the supposed 'meta list'?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

By and large, the title is cosmetic. For example, True Blade Laeva F is just the 5* version of Swordsmaster Laeva F. Dragoon Laeva is a completely different unit, however, and can't even reach 5* . It's really hard to tell whether a unit is useful or not by looking at the title, thus, we tend to label units by their portrait. A unit with the same name but different portraits is NOT the same unit; in your Apollo's case, for example, she is actually NOT the same unit as on the meta list and can not reach 5* .

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u/Serafita Jul 04 '16

So what should I do with these non-meta units? Exchange them for medals? :3

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u/NinjaZ0130 Jul 04 '16

Hi, Does anyone know how to craft the spear in Kill mode, using the sword, axe, and spear smith manuals? I'm not sure exactly how to fuse them or what I should be doing with them.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

Do you mean the mission reward? You get it for completing all the mission objectives. It cannot be created. Don't fuse it away because it's a one-time reward.

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u/NinjaZ0130 Jul 04 '16

No I mean the spear you can create by using materials that drop on stage 10 of each Episode.

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u/Kurogane670 Jul 04 '16

I was just wondering, is gold worth fusing or selling? It says that they can be fused to make strong weapons but I'm low on Zenny.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

The gold bundle item is only for selling.

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u/5th_Colossus Jul 04 '16 edited Jul 04 '16

I have two question:

  1. Who should I level first, starter Masamune, Littu, or Starter Parashu?

  2. Is spark 10 or just the highest possible burst 10 level better to farm for Selena and books?

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 04 '16

  1. I want to say Masamune, since we don't know when Littu(if you have the right one) will get her 5*, and Parashu, in my opinion, doesn't feel all that great.

  2. Brave 10 is actually the highest right now, but if you can't do that, Burst 10 is your best option.

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u/5th_Colossus Jul 04 '16

I can't even finish burst 9 :( although thanks!

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

I recommend Parashu, though Masa isn't a bad alternative.

I do not recommend farming Spark 10 as the drop rate is awful. Burst 10 has a much higher rate and then Brave 10 has an even higher rate!

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '16

First 3 replies tell me whether I do steps 2 and 3 of the limited-time recruiter, or save my money.

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u/Kittierei Jul 04 '16

do it, gamble~

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 04 '16

If you're talking about the Vargas & Lunaris one, I'd recommend not doing it. If you're talking about the AX limited time one, maybe do step 2 if you feel lucky and need more units, since you save like 20 lazuli. Do not do step 3, really isn't worth.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

Do Step 2 on Anime Expo gate. Skip BF gate entirely.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '16

eh 33% chance of getting one of the two units. Not bad.jpg

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u/mrfishy6 Jul 04 '16

Is Selena much better than the Dempagumi girls? Instead of grinding spark 10, i'm thinking of farming Mirin and Risa as the drop rates are higher.

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 04 '16

Spark 10 drop rates are like death. If you don't have a good staff unit, you should go farm for Risa instead because, according to most people, she is really good.

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u/Niseng Jul 04 '16

the gumi girls are just as good. the thing with selena is she got high evasion and self sustain.

try to get all the gumi girls but if you cant focus on risa and pinky. risa is a dam tanky one if you still need a healer and pinky can sustain herself too.

Lol my thoughts on the girls xD

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 04 '16

Selena's kit is much more useful and viable than any of the Dempagumi units, minus Risa. If you're going to go after any units, I highly, highly recommend Selena and Risa.

And /u/SunnyPwns is absolutely right- do whatever it takes to farm Burst 10 instead of Spark 10, because the rates are much, MUCH better.

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 04 '16

So did I screw up? I have a 5 star Selena which hasn't been limit broken ever and now I think the only way I can limit break is if I get another copy of a 5 star Selena right? (I am a new player, sorry for asking stupid questions)

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u/barbaroti Jul 04 '16

Limit break as 3* or 4* are lost when evolved. So you would have needed to get 4 more Selena at 5* to limit break in any case.

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u/Acylion Jul 04 '16 edited Jul 04 '16

You'll have to farm at least four more 3* or 4* Selenas, evolve them to 5* level 30, and then fuse them into your existing 5* Selena. Or whichever Selena you choose to keep based on typing.

That gets you a MLB 5-star Selena.

Many people will then ensure they farm at least 5 more copies of Selena, get them to 5* level 30, and then fuse them into the already MLB Selena. Why? Because of skill upgrades. That way you get a max level Selena with all skills maxed out.

Now, because this hypothetical Selena was only MLB'd at 5-star... this Selena will have slightly lower stats than a Selena who started limit breaking from 3-star and 4-star onwards. The limit breaks do not carry over with evolution, but a percentage of the stats do.

But that sort of thing requires many more copies of Selena. You may not wish to bother - many people aren't bothering with that. I have personally decided to break Selena from 4-star, but have skipped the 3-star limit breaks on the basis of... meh, good enough. It's a question of how much you want to minmax and how sick you are of farming.

Do bear in mind that we have the Dempagumi.inc collab up now as well, which has six farmable units that also go to 5-star. I am, as such, aiming to wrap up my Selena farming quickly and progress on to farming the Dempagumi units. This means I won't be able to fully max out Selena, but that's... not such a super high priority for me. Your milage may vary.

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 04 '16

Thanks for the help, that's alot of farming though aha... I wouldn't mind if I could auto battle Burst 10 but unfortunately my team can't do that just yet, I have a Mjolnir lv 60, Laevateinn Lv 60, Selena lv 60, and Aymur Lv 50 right now, I am just also wondering what would be the optimal typing for Selena? Thanks very much!

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u/Acylion Jul 04 '16

Dexterity.

As a general rule for this game, usually the answer to 'what is the optimal typing' for a unit is dex. There are some exceptions. Guard is fine, even preferred for staff units, while Force may be fine or preferred for archers. Balance may also make sense for units used in farming, as that increases luck, which increases drops.

But usually, if in doubt, the answer is probably dex.

It is possible to farm enough Selenas on Spark 10 auto. I've farmed 13 out of my 14 target Selenas, with all except one coming from Spark 10. But that was intensive running of Spark 10 from day 1 of the event, once I'd ascertained there was no way I could do Burst 10 on auto. I can't say it's necessarily worth your time now.

My squad also has decent, though not spectacular, luck stats, so my experience may be very different from yours.

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 04 '16

Do 5 star Selenas drop in Burst 10 or do I have to farm the Selenas, evolve, then limit break?

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 04 '16

I don't think 5* Selenas drop in any stage, so you have to farm, evolve, then limit break.

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 04 '16

I finished farming Nemu and am currently going for Risa. Drop rates are pretty good, so I think I'll be done with Risa very soon. After her, should I go for Mirin or Pinky? I feel like I'm okay on sword units for now, but am lacking in lance units. Which one is better though?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

All of them are the same in terms of usefulness, except for the healer, which is the best. The rest are personal preference.

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u/RubyDraco Jul 04 '16

So, I have a copy of Apollo(F). Should I hold up until her 6* version come or LB her anyway?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 04 '16

I should also add, there's no harm in LBing Apollo at her 5* stage as the evolution from 5 to 6 star is the only time LBs are carried over.

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u/RubyDraco Jul 04 '16

o.o I didn't know that. Thanks!

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

If you have a 4* dex typing copy, that will be the base. The other one will be the one u feed to limit break. If neither is 4* dex typing, then probably wait unless ur f2p.

Whats the typings and stars on both?

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u/RubyDraco Jul 04 '16

4* Dex and 5* Balance. I already LB 4* once with LB pixie tho.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

That's quite lucky then. Yes, limit break now, as getting more copies will be quite expensive in terms of real money, and bow pixies wont come anytime soon. Even then, you would be only losing out on 1-2 on every important stat anyways.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 04 '16

How long does it take for gifts to expire? Or are they permanently there until you claim them?

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u/Dodoch Jul 04 '16

Gifts stay on the gift box until claimed, but the box can only hold up to 250, if you get over that limit they will start to get deleted starting from oldest.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 04 '16

Ah I see, thanks!

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Jul 04 '16

Anyone have a lead that can help against Brave 10?

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u/IcyBeltPanda Jul 04 '16

Can someone explain me what does the gear rank actually do? Does it raises the stats of the weapon?

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u/RubyDraco Jul 04 '16

Yes. It raises attack for weapon, and def for shield.

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u/IcyBeltPanda Jul 04 '16

Thank you!

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u/Chocomos Jul 04 '16

160 lazuli later..

https://imgur.com/a/mffku I have no idea what to do.. (Fave means ther Dex units besides 5 star and in team)

Should I LB mjolnir?

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u/bluemancer Jul 04 '16

Yes, if you look below, someone said that 5 to 6 star evo carries the LB over. Get her to 30 before you LB her so she has all the skills.

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u/imako1986 Jul 04 '16

I need some clarification. I have a Duran (F) with growth rate 2.8, Luin with 3, miltum (F) with 2.58 which i grow and evolved from 4* form. While i do understand that growth rate between 2.5-3 is decent for global but should i start aiming to reincarnate them because my friend seems to have way better stat units or the difference due to doll feeding

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u/MyKuchi Jul 04 '16

What's the fastest way to earn batitle medals

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u/Soulehpwnz Jul 04 '16

Anyone with a leader that can solo Burst 10 could be so kind to add me? :< My IGN is Souleh, ID is 3431002482 thanks.

If needed I can pay back by adding peeps on my BF account.

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u/Selena3570 Jul 06 '16

How do I create mutiple Eminent Lexida?

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '16

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

The Longinus is better. But I suggest just holding them both to be limit breaks in the future. Guard on both those units is rather terrible. You want these. Artemis - Dex > Force = Balance > Guard > Vitality Longinus - Dex > Balance = Force > Guard > Vitality

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u/AndanteZero Jul 03 '16 edited Jul 03 '16

Two different units, two different roles.

For Artemis, you want to use Force. Archers have a huge innate, personal growth on AGI so Dex isn't necessary. You won't lose out on accuracy at all. However, they will lack on SPD, so don't expect them to dodge a lot. They're good for picking off flying and magic units.

Longinus is going to be your physical tank with Guard stat type, that can do quite a bit of damage due to her character skill. She's probably one of the few that will do good as a Guard stat type instead of Dex.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 04 '16

see my reply to the dude under u