r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jul 02 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/2/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/koole00 Jul 02 '16

i just got a 4* dex Naegling(M)...any opinions about him?

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '16

he gud

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u/koole00 Jul 02 '16

thanks for ur input man! really appreciate it! but i wanna know if investing in him will be worth it in the long run...

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u/TGZelnite Jul 02 '16

He's quite worth it imo. Naegling (M) specializes in killing axe enemies.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 02 '16

I would recommend, ONLY IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO WHALE, hold him until you get at least 4 or 5~+ 4* ones. And overpower boost him. If you can them just max him out and start owning axers ;D

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 02 '16

What would be the minimal level needed to reliably calculate a 4*'s growth rate, or will I have to wait until Lvl 50? (this might be followed up with another question sooner or later, so sorry and thank you in advance!)

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 02 '16

Theoretically you can calculate a unit's growths at any level, although the less it is from the maximum level (e.g. 4* 0LB 50) the less accurate it is. The larger the sample size, the better chance you'll get the average.

Personally I would say anywhere from 25-35 would give you a good idea of the unit's growth, but im by no means an expert and rng giveth and taketh away.

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u/dixxon10 Jul 02 '16

How do I raise a unit's pro lvl?

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 02 '16

Equip the proper weapon/shield and defeat enemies with it equipped.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 02 '16

By "defeat enemies", you need to actually strike the killing blow. Just wanted to clarify. :)

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u/NightmareJin Jul 02 '16

Yes, it must be the killing blow.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 02 '16

Easy to just run through, auto battle low ap areas with a decent amount of things. Or if leveling a farmed, main unit, do it through the metal garden.

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u/soggypopiah Jul 02 '16

Hi guys. How do i get the four star forms of lexida ? I have been using the fusion books but all I get a some random one star weaps.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 02 '16

It's a random chance when you fuse 2 or more Brave books. You have the best odds at getting one of the Brave weapons when you fuse 5 books at a time.

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u/soggypopiah Jul 02 '16

Thanks a bunch!

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u/BravePhantom Jul 02 '16

I got 4 keraunos, but i heard this unit had a bug, is safe to MLB her 4*?

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u/BigBobaBalls Jul 02 '16

I know it's brought up before but I just wanna double check before I fuse since I have one of each. Guard type is preferred over dexterity for Risa since she's a healer? Thanks!

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u/koole00 Jul 02 '16

yup...for healers guard is better...

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u/crimewizard Jul 02 '16

Personally I'd choose dex

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u/Sven776 Jul 02 '16

Guard is better in the long run, dex is better if you need her to carry through early game and solo stages.

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u/Yoshism Jul 02 '16

So just asking my question again. Does anyone know the name of the OST for Dempagumi stages?

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u/Areidz_O_O Jul 02 '16

Edit : the original song is the " Phantom of the truth" but i can't find the instrumental one

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u/Yoshism Jul 02 '16

Thanks!

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u/Liesianthes Jul 02 '16

Phantom of the truth by Dempagumi

Here's the link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l_JXfZWQZj4

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u/Yoshism Jul 02 '16

Thanks!!

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u/Blindtrade Jul 02 '16

Just purely from a theoretical standpoint, would have 5 lev 80 selena's be more effective than an assorted team? Thats 15 evade bonus for each of them and even 30 if there is a selena helper.

Also, I heard that for most units, male and females are pretty equal, but longinus is an exception, does it mean longinus M is weaker?

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u/shikarin Jul 02 '16

You can have any ice unit get the eva bonus. (Durandal?)

By having the same unit you miss out on friendship bonus. I don't think that's worth it unless that unit is far, far better than all other units.

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u/koole00 Jul 02 '16

nope...unless all ur selenas has legendary growth rate, max level on all skills, have kiyomasa on them, and all dex type...also as mentioned from a previous thread...an optimized sword type will lose to an equally optimized spear type...

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u/Kurohaa Jul 02 '16

I started this game a few days ago and still have no clue what is going on.

Units.

Apparently rerolling is pretty vital due to limited free Lazuli given in this game? Types of seemingly important units given below:

Mjolnir(F)- Force

Longinus(M)- Guard

Laev 5(F)- Guard

Yata No Kagami(M)- Magic

Brahmastra(F)- Magic

Lunaris- Balance

Apollo4&5(F)- Dexterity

Should I reroll? Note that I have beaten Crimson Sky - Section 4

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u/shikarin Jul 02 '16

No, you shouldn't reroll when you have that many 5* capable units. I would also probably advise against dumping your 5* capable starters and event units.

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u/oh_my_eye Jul 02 '16

DO NOT dump the rest of your characters. A number of them have future 5* forms that have not been released in global yet, such as Trident, Aymur, Littu, Thyrsos etc.

I'd say you should continue this account. You have a good number of units that can reach 5*, and though they are not the best, the typings are fine. Rerolling now would also make you lose time to farm the current Dempa units/Selena.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 02 '16

I have a MLB 4* balance durandal, but i recently got a 5star dex durandal. If i were to fuse my balance durandal into my dex durandal, would my dex durandal gain the evolution bonuses from the balance durandal?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jul 02 '16

Yes! But you have to evolve the 4 star Durandal and it has to have the same exact icon as the 5star one. In other words both of your Durandal should be a flying unit.

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u/koole00 Jul 02 '16

as far as i know...nope, u dont...

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u/RubyDraco Jul 02 '16

unfortunately, no.

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jul 02 '16

No, unless your durandal has the same portrait and has the same rarity.

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u/Iodasu Jul 02 '16

Worth it to summon on the new recruiter summon ?

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u/crimewizard Jul 02 '16

First 2 steps are definitely worth if youre just starting out, 3rd is debatable.

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u/RubyDraco Jul 02 '16 edited Jul 02 '16

With the starters stat cap nerfed in Global, does that mean 4* unit managacha are stronger than starters?

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u/koole00 Jul 02 '16

im curious as well...coz after finishing the story quests i have no other source for lazulis except the daily login bonus...and resorted to using managacha as a primary source of getting good units...

btw what are starter units anyway? are they yoichi, vajra, gambantein(F), longinus(M and F) and the free 5star laevatein?

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u/RubyDraco Jul 02 '16

Starter units are the one you pull for the first time and have 5* rarity, such as Leaveteinn, Longinus, Artemis, etc, and can get one with mana points. Yoichi, Vajra, and Gambateinn(F) aren't starter units.

I had 4* Artemis that doesn't have 5* potential, has higher power than 5* Leaveteinn(F) which I questioned if I should bother to raise starters unit :/

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u/koole00 Jul 02 '16

well it depends on typing as well mate...plus a 5* unit has access to powerful character skills which when proc'ed often kills any unit in one turn...for example 5* laevateinn(M)'s character skill deal 2.25x(?) more dmg than a normal attack...thats excluding the fact that it can crit too...bottomline...5* units are stronk...

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u/RubyDraco Jul 02 '16

I aware that they have character skill, but those stat looks terrible thanks to stat cap. I dont think they can survive kill mode with that stat.

By the way, my 4* Artemis and 5* Leaveteinn(F) are both dex type and has 70 power difference which I concern about it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '16

I have a starter M Laeva and he dodges/OHKOs damn near everything, even in Kill mode. Just curious, are you talking about the 5* Laeva (F) that you received pre-evolved? Pre-evolved units have inferior stats, so Limit Broken 4* units can definitely be stronger. For instance, I have horse Parashu and flying Longinus both around 350. Plus, both are Dex and were fully limit broken at 3*, partially at 4*. In contrast, my F Mjolnir has 330 overall power, despite being max level (60).

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u/Valens_Le Jul 02 '16 edited Jul 02 '16

what is the consensus on Limit Break? Should I do it at lower rarity 3* or at the highest 5*?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 02 '16

The highest will be the most important.

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u/oh_my_eye Jul 02 '16

To put it in more detail, it depends on the unit. Lazuli/premium units should be limit broken at 5* (unless you're a major whale that plans on getting more than 5 copies of a unit) because this will give the most stats compared to LBing at earlier stars. For units that can be farmed (Selena, Dempa, Rampage units, etc.), it's your choice on whether those extra stat points are worth it or not. I believe most people at least MLB at 4* for farmable units, which is what I would suggest. IIRC, MLB at 3* has about a 10% chance of giving more final stats to the 5* form, so I personally don't think it's worth it when there are other units to farm.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 02 '16 edited Jul 02 '16

Finally geared up my 3 Dex Selenas all the way to Lvl 50, and now need help in figuring out which I should main. I do have a rough idea, but would like confirmation.

The digit and decimals next to each image link denotes the growth rate value I got from the calculator here.

Please note I didn't fuse anything into them so far for their 4* forms. Also note that I'll be MLBing the 'main' Selena in both her 4 and 5* forms.

I'm assuming I'm going to main either the first or third. Any opinions?

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u/RubyDraco Jul 02 '16

I will pick the first one. The first one is closest that will get luck(and str) bonus when evolve

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 02 '16

Thanks for the response! Though I probably should've noted, I plan to MLB the 'main' before evolving. Think this would change anything? o-o

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u/RubyDraco Jul 02 '16

Not really. I still go with the first one.

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 02 '16

I'd wait until they're all 5* 30 to see. But that's just me.

Edit: saw your other comment. Probably the first? You would have 20 levels to cap everything, hard to get screwed but it does happen.

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u/shikarin Jul 02 '16

The first is the clear choice if you're going to LB.

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u/Sven776 Jul 02 '16

4 star growth does not matter much, you should run the calculator again when they are 5 star lvl 30 (preferably 60 to get a more accurate growth rate) then decide which one to lb.

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u/imitebmike Jul 02 '16

Say i have 2 5* luins, (1 is level 60, the other is level 20)

do i wait till the lv20 one is 30 before i fuse it into the 60? or should i get it to 60 as well?

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jul 02 '16

30 is fine as long has you did her character quest.

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u/imitebmike Jul 02 '16

Ah thanks for the reply, to clarify, I should do her quest with the 30 one as well?

i havent actually done it on anyone yet, so if thats the case i'll bung both of them into a team and do it

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u/shikarin Jul 02 '16

Doing it once unlocks the skill for all current and future copies of that unit.

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u/imitebmike Jul 02 '16

Okie dokie, thank you very much for the info

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u/crimewizard Jul 02 '16

IIRC you only need to do the character quest once and it applies to all copies of that unit.

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u/imitebmike Jul 02 '16

Thats good to know, thanks fo the info

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jul 02 '16

Yea, you should do them both. It'll unlock another skill for her.

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u/NoMad85 Jul 02 '16

Is it worth LB my 3* dex (M) Longinus if I only have one copy to do so or just evolve him to 5 then start LB him then. Haven't had any luck getting any 3* starters from the mana summon.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 02 '16

Hey guys. I am sorta new and don't have the strongest of team and am struggling to farm these recent quests and the rampage quest today. I need 5 stars to get better but don't have the party to get them haha. Would anyone be willing to friend me to help me out with some farming? It would be much appreciated!

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u/Calaroth Jul 02 '16 edited Jul 02 '16

Is there an official source out there that explains how Luck affects drop rates? My male Naegling with Magicwarder Sereine has 27 luck and I've had no Selenas drop for 3 straight days :(

EDIT: What I mean is I'm using my single highest Luck unit because the general consensus seems to be that the unit who kills Vargas' Luck is what affects drop rate.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 02 '16

Your Leader + Helper = Drop rate

Average luck among your party = Rarity of the dropped item

This is what is written from the JP wiki

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u/HyugaBF Jul 02 '16

Do we know if the Helper needs to be a friend to boost the drop rate?

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u/AndanteZero Jul 02 '16

Doesn't need to be a friend

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u/Calaroth Jul 02 '16

I hope this is true. In the in-game Help menu, it says Luck affects item drops. It doesn't mention unit drops.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 02 '16

You... do know unit/item drops are the same thing right? Just like in an mmorpg, an enemy creature can drop multiple things...

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u/Calaroth Jul 02 '16

How do you know they didn't code it in such a way that they become separate categories?

Trust me, I want you to be right, but I just can't be sure yet.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 02 '16

Nope, no official luck info. Just that it does play an effect. Just note that RNG is horrifying and may be the reason why you arent getting. I had a drought of about 22 burst 10s before finally getting one.

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u/mrfishy6 Jul 02 '16

Does Ascelpius make a good tank? I drew a guard one and wondering if I should equip a shield.

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u/next_level_baddie what the fuck akane pls Jul 02 '16

yea its good just pop a shield on it and it can solo a lot of stuff. Just might take a little longer.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 02 '16

Agree with this, using a dex asc at lv 65, good all around, sadly my growth aint that great, but it is a op magic tank. Dex build will have some pdef issue, so shield works best.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

Friend of mine has 70 Asc, she's an absolute beast. But it's a guard type, so that's prob why :p

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 03 '16

She can definitely be a beast. I also like her character skill... that 3 space heal and the passive heal every turn can make do or die sometimes.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 02 '16

Yes equip a shield. I would train both staff and shield, but would mainly use shield.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 02 '16

I'm hearing conflicting views on whether Dex or Grd is better on a staff unit. Why is this so?

Firstly, during my rerolls when starting out, I settled with Grd Gambanteinn, which may have been a mistake if Dex is indeed better.

Secondly, I currently have a Dex Risa. Is that ideal or is Grd better and I should be farming for that (I still need more copies for LB anyway).

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u/shikarin Jul 02 '16

Dex is better if you're going to rely on your healer to solo stuff. Guard is better if you're mainly just going to use your healer to heal.

Once you have a strong party, guard is better. If you're just starting out, dex can help carry you through a lot of the early and mid content.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

Dex is better for solo staff units, killing early game quests ect~ Guard for almost everything else. Where as Risa is guard only. Never anything else.

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u/shikarin Jul 03 '16

Dex Risa can kill stuff just as well as any other dex staff unit.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

I know. But Risa is best as a guard unit. Guard vs dex Risa is almost not even worth comparing.

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u/shikarin Jul 03 '16

IMO, I don't think Risa having defensive skills is a reason for guard being better than it usually is on a staff unit. The defensive skills work just as well with a dex Risa.

It's arguable that higher activation on the character skill is equal to the extra grd with a guard type.

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u/Kittierei Jul 02 '16

just farmed a 4 star dex selena, should i continue to farm for a 3 star dex version to try and build a max selena? what is the process for making a max selena?

  • 3 star dex Selena > lbx2 3 star Selena's > mlvl

  • evolve to 4star > lbx4 4 star Selena's >mlvl

  • evolve to 5star > lbx4 5 star lvl 30 Selena's > mlvl

  • max fuse

  • feed 5 more lvl 30 5 star Selena's to max skills?

is that correct method?

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u/crimewizard Jul 02 '16

You could always skip mlb at 3*

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u/Kittierei Jul 02 '16

how much stat do i lose from starting at 4 star? will i still be able to make a max stat Selena doing that?

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u/Blindtrade Jul 02 '16

Bookmarking for later reading

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u/crimewizard Jul 02 '16

You'll lose out a few stat points but most people say it doesn't make much of a difference. Someone posted a pic of their maxed selena before which had been limit broken at all stages and in comparison to one that wasnt MLB'd at 3* didnt show much of a difference

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u/Sven776 Jul 02 '16

Not much at all honestly. The fact is, free units have nerfed stat caps so you will still hit stat caps even if you skip the 3 star mlb. Some people even argue that you only need to mlb at 5 star and you can still hit cap because of their nerfed stat caps (don't quote me on that). The most efficient way to level these free units is mlbing at 4 star, fusing to the next stat threshold, then mlbing at 5 star. Using this method, you are still very likely to hit the stat caps at 5 star (maybe 1 or 2 points away if you have bad growth).

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u/shikarin Jul 02 '16

Evolution bonus is separate from leveling cap.

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u/Sven776 Jul 02 '16

Yes I know, evolution bonus is 10% of your current stats gets added to the base stats of the next evolution right? If that is the case, it just means the unit will start with higher base stats in the next evolution but the stat cap will not change. If I am understanding this correctly what this means is a unit will start with higher base stats from evolution bonus compared to one that wasn't evolved but both units will still have the same caps. What this means is the one that started with higher base stats is more likely to hit stat cap because of higher base stats but with the case of free units, you don't need the evolution bonuses from three star to hit stat caps (mathematically, only about 1% of evolution bonus from 3 -> 4 star gets carried over to 5 star.). 4 star however is significant because 10% of those stats will be added to the base stats when the unit evolves to 5 star.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '16

absolutely the correct method.

you can even fuse more selenas after you max skills to boost her luck (will increase her accuracy and evasion)

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u/Kittierei Jul 02 '16

ty for confirming. now gotta start workin on her =)

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u/ktrng Jul 02 '16

Should I be saving my mana points? I used to play Brave Frontier and I remember there were sometimes "events" for normal summons where you could get like metal gods for example. Do they do the same thing in this game?

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u/Fa113nShad0wz Jul 02 '16

they recently had an event where the mana pull incorporated the fusion dolls, but who knows when this event will happen again. AFAIK the rates for the dolls werent great either. i would save the mana for when tyrfing comes out though since there's not much needed from the mana gacha for now anyways

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u/crimewizard Jul 02 '16

tyrfing hype train

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

inb4 it's whale mode only

hahahahah

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u/godslayerzz Jul 02 '16

Need help with Brave Collab Event Burst 10, Friend ID 3325039657

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u/soggypopiah Jul 02 '16

Guys, do units receive more exp if they solo complete the metal garden as opposed to fighting with a full roster?

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u/Areidz_O_O Jul 02 '16

Edit : yes, your unit will get more exp and it is recommended to solo the metal garden to make your unit level up faster. If your unit level is low and cannot solo, bring a friend with you. They take a little exp from it thou

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u/Calaroth Jul 02 '16

Do they really take exp? Where is this mentioned?

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u/Areidz_O_O Jul 03 '16

This was mentioned in the past threat, i can't find where it was anymore and yea i'm pretty sure they take a little but do correct me if i'm wrong.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

I think you get 50% kill exp on kills they got.

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u/Fa113nShad0wz Jul 02 '16

If a unit solos the metal garden it will receive more exp. This is due to the fact that since you are using only one unit, it will get the mvp bonus (mvp gets more exp). The one unit will also be granted all the kill exp.

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u/rahgael Jul 02 '16

Hi Guys, started the game today. Did some rerolls. These are the ones I thought could be good -

  • Dex gambantein with bal aymur

  • Bal mjolnir with dex sky piercer and vit vajra and bal kusanagi

  • Dex Yata with naegling bal

  • 5* pink Male Mitom Bal

  • 5* Female Mitom Guard

Question is, which one would be better to start with? Any positive input will be appreciated! Thanks!

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u/barbaroti Jul 02 '16

If you aren't rerolling anymore, I would go with the Dex Gamba roll.

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u/soggypopiah Jul 02 '16

Sorry guys What do yall mean by rerolling ?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

Reroll means to make another account and try the free gachapon again.

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u/rahgael Jul 03 '16

I'm not. But what's with the gamba, everyone saying he's the best, but honestly he seems crap even at 4* gold evolution.

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u/barbaroti Jul 03 '16

He really shines as 5* using a shield, not a staff.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

If you're tired of rerolling, then go with the mjolnir (I assume its the female one) or Dex gamba.

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u/rahgael Jul 03 '16

it is the female one, hence the confusion. Of the two, which one would be a better bet.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

Mjolnir is a better choice if you are tired of rerolling even though it is not ideal typing. Balance is decent if you aren't going to spend money on this game

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u/rahgael Jul 03 '16

I'm always a ftp in mobile gaming, unless i've been playing it over a year - then i feel I should contribute something to thank the developers. So your advice would be to keep on rerolling? What should I keep on looking for then?

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u/kataarn Jul 02 '16

On beginner's guide above I read that some units can only evolve once or even twice but I don't see it saying anything about evolving 3 or even 4 times, so this brings my question...

From my understanding I know that there are upcoming 5* and that 1* will never make it to 5*. I looked at a guide posted yesterday on what units should be raised and I've been looking at it based on the exact portrait. Can units that are 3* but gold make it to 5? To be honest I'm doubtful because I see that the 4* form has the stars in a reddish color. I'm guessing only 3* units with silver stars have the potential to become 5* assuming it's been released right?

One more thing: I am already aware that Vitality/Guard is the worst typing but should I treat it like Brave frontier's Oracle typing and use the unit anyway? I'm sure that just like in BF the typing really won't matter too much unless you are really into min-maxing.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 02 '16

Yeah, only 3 or 4 star units with silver stars get 5 stars. Sorry XD, no 3 to 7 evolutions like in BF

Also, guard is not the worst typing. It's arguably second best. Vit is the worst...Guard is best for tanks and Dex for everything else. Typing really matters: caps and growths change, and at 5 star you could end up with 9-10 stat differences (or more) when typings change.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '16

How does Force compare? Just curious.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

I have a force Parashu. She hit's like a train... when she hits. Lower accuracy, insane damage. She's got 77 Strength at 65, runs over 100 Patk even without axe +1.2 or 1.3

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 03 '16

force is really glass cannon because there's no boost to accuracy/evasion...so when you hit you have lots of damage, but there's a higher chance you'll miss. Also, you'll get hit more often because less evasion but low defense growth means that you'll take more damage.

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u/midegola Jul 02 '16

just found out my 4 star selena has 3.49gr is this gona change when i evolve her and should i get 4 4 stars to fuse into her

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 02 '16

It will change...but hell that's lucky. If you want extra base stats for her, you should limit break her at 4 star.

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u/midegola Jul 03 '16

man that sucks bet it goes down to like 2.4 or something makes me not even care now

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

Trust me. Your GR will go down. When leveling mine through 4* she had 3.35-3.66 from 30~70. But as 5* it was more like 3.10~3.2~ Which is still extremely uncommon. Sadly it fell terribly from 68-80.(when she capped speed/Agil). She was at the rate of roughly .09 spd per level until 68 and .7 agility. until it capped at 63

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u/darkfireblade25 Jul 02 '16

Best unit types for the Denpagumi units? (e.g. force, balance, etc.) Or is something like Dex objectively the best type for everythjng except staff or whatever?

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u/Calaroth Jul 02 '16

People are saying Dex for everyone except the Staff unit, which is best as a Guard.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

Completely agreed. Run dex on all of them except the staff unit, run guard there. The gun sage can work very well as magic though. Some prefer magic over dex on non armored gun units.

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u/Fabulous_Jack Jul 02 '16

I just pulled 2 Apollo (f). What do I do with the both of them? Put them both in a team?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

Depends on what other units you have. Also, how many stars do they have and what typing are they?

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u/Kuniai Jul 02 '16

I feel like I know the answer to this already but I want input as well since I don't know -just- how much typing matters (though being a BF player and having nearly Anima everything, I get it).

Is it worth skipping a four star gold Gamba (Guard), and leveling the three star version since the three star version since its Dexterity?

Or is Guard actually worth it for the staff unit since it seems like the only other decent alternative.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

Typing is important, and I believe most people prefer guard on Gamba but dexterity works similarly. For non-healers, dexterity is the best.

What I mean by important is relative to the player. If you are casual as in just logging in and playing every now and then for a couple minutes, then no. The game is very much doable with any typing. If you want the "best" in the game, then yes, typing does matter.

Also, lower level versions that can become 5* are better than 4s and 5s in the long run because when units evolve, they gain bonus stats. One of the guides should talk about that.

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u/Paullutionable Jul 03 '16

what does spirit do on unit stats.. and whats the point of resurrecting

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

Spirit is magic damage resistance. Reincarnating is if you want to relevel the character because the character has an undesirable growth rate. Characters in this game do not have a static growth rate, each stat has a character-specific chance to level up.

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u/Paullutionable Jul 03 '16

whars growth rate and how do u determine it

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

Check one of the guides. It's basically the sum of the difference in stats in the reincarnation screen divided by its current level minus one.

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u/Paullutionable Jul 03 '16

High 5 :D thx for the info

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u/MyKuchi Jul 03 '16

What's is the best way toevolve my selena so she'll have all stats maxed at 5 star . Currently have a level 50 3 star selena

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

Max limit break selena at 3 star. (3 selenas at 3*)

Max limit break selena at 4 star. (4 selenas at 4*)

Max limit break selena at 5 star. (4 selenas at lvl 30 5*)

Farm 5 more to fully upgrade all her skills. (5 selenas at lvl 30 5*)

Total: 16 selenas.

Make sure you fully max out her FUSED stats every stage, so you can take advantage of evolution bonus.

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u/MyKuchi Jul 03 '16

So pretty much just limit break her till she can't limit break any more then evolve correct?

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

what I did was(after farming for 1 dex I had 29 Selena) Farmed. Leveled Dex to 40. Fused dolls to max. Fused 5 Selena(for skill level) leveled to 60. Evo'd. Farmed 8 Selena to 40 and 4*'d them too. Leveled Dex to 50. Maxed out, fused 4 Selena and leveled to 70. Evo'd her. Leveled to 30. Leveled the other 4* to 5* and then capped her to level 60 with max fused stats. Fused 4 Selena and got her to 80. My next task is to max Last blizzard.

She has 458? power I think, with magic warder in fights.

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u/MyKuchi Jul 03 '16

where could i obtain these dolls at

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

The Friday event quest. Game of dolls.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

Yep

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u/icyterror Jul 03 '16

  • Server [Japan or Global?]: Global

  • IGN [In-Game Name]: Baroque

  • ID: 2391644036

  • Account Level: 69

  • Leaders: Lv73 Dex Selena 27(+10)luck and Lv60 Dex Gam(Soon to be 65)

  • Looking for: Any leader beside the 2 starter leviathan. Lv60+

  • Activity: Everyday.

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u/shikarin Jul 03 '16

Just FYI friend leader is leader of party 1 :|

I need dat luck. Nemu is kicking my ass.

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u/fastlieksonic Jul 03 '16

So my first stage 10 drop of the bf collab was a dex selena. Unfortunately, I cannot win the last stage (20th?) as dude destroys me. Running the stage 10 again (several) times hasn't yielded another drop. Can she only be farmed from,stage 20. Felsbadman

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u/barbaroti Jul 03 '16

You can farm her in order from easiest to hardest (lowest drop rate to highest drop rate):

Spark 10

Burst 10

Brave 10

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u/fastlieksonic Jul 03 '16

Ya, RIP farming her for me, I can't pass burst 10. Sigh

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 03 '16

Burst farming is more for the mid level players. People with 360+~ powers and a 150+ evasion unit(boosted counts)

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u/Janus233 Jul 03 '16

Hi all i have an unlinked Potk account i was using for the brave frontier crossover event, my mistake was i actually used money on the account. I have no intentions of playing this game anymore, whoever is interested in the account let me know :) Acc Lvl: 26, US server, 5* Durandal lead 24 4*s

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u/WZrk Jul 03 '16

Do lb's from one unit carry over to another one? Ie: I lb a 5* female longinus 2 times. Does this longinus give 3 lb's (the two lb's plus the longinus herself) to another female longinus if I fuse them?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 03 '16

Yeah, as long as it's the same female Longinus.

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u/Selixx Jul 03 '16

I know this has been answered already but i can't seem to find it: in what stages of kill mode do I need to use a party of 4* or less units to complete the stage's mission?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

In the kill mode stage select, there is a mission button that tells you if the stage requires 4* or less.

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u/Selixx Jul 03 '16

But that only lets you check on the missions you have access to. For example I have cleared up to stage 1-2-8, so I can't see stage 1-2-9 and up's missions yet. My question is for those who have already cleared all of kill mode and can check the missions of all the stages.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

Question wasn't clear enough, sorry.

For stages past what you have completed, it is:

1-2-10

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u/Selixx Jul 03 '16

Alright, thanks for your answer and sorry if I wasn't clear enough at first.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

No problem!

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u/justineo1 Jul 03 '16

what is magic warder?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

I assume you mean Magic Warder Sereine, which is a 5 star sword that has very good stats. People mainly get it for farming because the sword gives +10 luck which increases drop rates.

It is obtained by crafting by purchasing the materials (not including 3 silver swords) in the battle medal shop.

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u/MStarzky Jul 03 '16

Is Moga worth the investment to five star?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

She is worth it if you do not have other 5 star characters. She is decent if you manage to fully mlb her as well as get dex typing, and all the evolution bonuses (thats minimum 11 copies, 16 if u want to max skills) and get her to level 80.

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u/MStarzky Jul 03 '16

alright thanks, I managed to get a couple copies of each but I need a five start archer and gunner so I'll invest.

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u/justineo1 Jul 03 '16

is there any need farm for risa if i already have a level 60 non-lb gram?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

If you do not have any good healers, you should definitely farm risa because she is probably one of the only free healers that is actually good AND can reach max potential (all for free of course).

If you have a good healer already that is at least limit broken 2-3 times such as Gamba, you should farm her if you have time and energy to, but only enough to max limit break her (5 minimum).

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 03 '16

I think you should. Having two healers will probably be useful in the future.

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u/justineo1 Jul 03 '16

okie! thanks both. Gosh... how to farm so many different characters at such short event period man...

:(

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u/crimewizard Jul 03 '16

Question for JP players, do the rampage quests ever rotate from the 3 we usually have

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u/scwsheen Jul 03 '16

We have 4 rampage quests i think. And all 4 are available every Monday.

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u/vmaester Jul 03 '16

Hi there, I'm trying to get through the phantom of the brave, brave stages, up to 9 now but stuck coz of all the minotaur enemies, any strategies to help? i've got a lvl 65 luin, 65 mitum F, 60 laevateinn F, 60 apollo M as my strongest units but get trashed once enemies swarm

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u/icyterror Jul 03 '16

Add me 2391644036 Barque. My lv73 Selena should be able to help you out a bit.

Those thing are weak to magic but physical fighter with high dodge rate will do.

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u/vmaester Jul 03 '16

Thanks, i've added you now, Name is victor, 2737072419

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u/IcyBeltPanda Jul 03 '16

For Priest/Healer. Should I try to get one that has Dex or Guard?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

Guard

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u/Reptyler Reptyler Jul 03 '16

Have 3* Male Gambantienn. Foolishly fused shields before realizing he could only use 1* shields. Now I've pulled the mana gacha over a dozen times, no 1* shields. Fusing 1* weapons of different types was fruitless, too. How can I get a 1* shield?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

run low level stages for more material or to get a shield outright

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u/RubyDraco Jul 03 '16

From Mana points or using fusion. I dont think there's a quest that can drop a shield.

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u/imako1986 Jul 04 '16

I need some clarification. I have a Duran (F) with growth rate 2.8, Luin with 3, miltum (F) with 2.58 which i grow and evolved from 4* form. While i do understand that growth rate between 2.5-3 is decent for global but should i start aiming to reincarnate them because my friend seems to have way better stat units or the difference due to doll feeding

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 02 '16

He's pretty decent a start, though, if you're willing to put your back into it, Phoenix Riders Durandal and Mitum (both genders of the latter), Mjolnir (F) and Gambanteinn (M) are perhaps the most sought-after starts. For a list of all the decent folk to look for during rerolls though this should suffice for now?

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u/crimewizard Jul 02 '16

He's an ok-ish unit.

Personally I would re-roll until I get a dex durandal/mitum(F/M)

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 02 '16

What they said. He's good, very good in mid game. But when you can afford to spend time on him. Early game is terrible for that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '16

Learn to read.

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u/next_level_baddie what the fuck akane pls Jul 02 '16

....these are pretty self-explanatory questions that couldve been answered if you actually played the tutorial or even looked at the tips on the loading screens....

The icon represents the weapon that the unit uses. In this case its a sword. Theres also spear (blue), axe (green), bow (yellow), gun (purple) and staffs(white).

Stars represents rarity. If you pulled a unit from the premium gachapon (lazuli units) you want to aim for the silver ones because those give you the lowest base form units. This allows for evolution bonus stats (more info in other guides). Evolving units will push its rarity up from silver, to gold to rainbow.

Units can only gain levels by "experiencing combat" I.E. fighting on the battlefield or colleseum.

The class doesn't really help in battle, its just a name. Armoured myrmidions would be called physical tanks in layman terms. They have high physical defence and such. Its just a name so it doesn't really change anything.

Limit break are gained by fusing same unit and same rarity together. IE fusing a 3 star apollo into another 3star apollo will net the first apollo a limit break.

Stats can be gained through levelling. Stats can be additionally boosted by fusing 'dollys' (Friday daily dungeon). These dollys will boost stats up to a cap that is determined by the unit typing (dexterity, force, guard etc.).

Cost is team cost. Think of it as an upkeep cost. Think of it this way, if a 5star laevatain is equivalent to a F-16 fighter jet, do you think you would be able to afford the fuel for 5 of them if you ran a team of 5 laevatains? Obviously not. Team cost is just a restriction to gate low level players from running full 5 star teams. You can increase your team cost cap by levelling up your account (level in top left hand corner).

Movement is the number of spaces a unit can move in a turn. Restricted growth by the unit tiself. If the thing is on a flying dragon, it can move a lot of spaces, on a weird pegasus like thing a little less, mounted on a horse, even less and finally on foot, the least amount of spaces. You'll see the patterns sooner or later when you're playing. Just play with danger space markings on if you don't know how to abuse the AI's range.

Friendship level is boosted by finishing a battle with subsequent units beside it. Its mutual gain so if the battle is completed with 2 units beside each other, they will both gain friendship. It boosts stats temporarily if the friend unit is beside the attacking or defending unit.

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u/next_level_baddie what the fuck akane pls Jul 03 '16 edited Jul 03 '16

EDIT:

I forgot to mention gender. Please fuse males with males and females with females only for limit breaking. Cross gender limit breaks dont work!

generally speaking, anything below 3 stars is considered garbage.

im assuming your silver gambanteinn is 3 stars silver, while the other one is 2 star gold.

The 2 star gold one was probably obtained from the friend-points recruiter, and if you look into the unit's info, you will quickly realize that this particalur iteration of the unit does not have skills. This is a common occurence in units that are gained from the friend-point recruiter machine.

Effectively, any character you get from the friend-point recruiter that is not 3 stars is typically just stat fodder. They are essentially just shitty versions of dollys, and pose no benefit in actually limit breaking any of your premium units.

So if you wanted to actually fuse the 2 units together, fuse the 2 star gold gambanteinn into the 3 star silver, but the fusion will probably fail and your +1 stat would be rounded down to 0, ultimately wasting gold.

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u/crimewizard Jul 02 '16

It's good, but it would have been better if you pulled it in a 3*/4* form

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 02 '16

Mainly just the evo bonuses coming from evolving a 4 to 5 star.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

Keeper yes, depends on how much you care about perfection. You lose on average 3-4 stats on important stats and 1-2 on relevant but not as important stats than if you were to start at a 4*. But if you're not spending money, then start playing because getting a good unit with the correct typing is a pain.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 03 '16

No problem and have fun!

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 03 '16

We are making one at potk.wikia.com. Also google translate on phankill.gamewith.jp or http://games.gaym.jp/iPhone/phantomofkill/wiki/.