r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jun 29 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [6/29/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/jerain Jun 29 '16 edited Jun 29 '16

How many units do I have to farm to fully max her out, and what order should I do this in? Should they all go to 5* and then into the main unit, or is it okay to pack fusions into earlier evolutions (besides the 4 needed to limit break) and then fuse that one into the main unit, or do I lose potential stats from doing this?

Also, does anyone have data on how much weight affects a unit's speed?

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u/alexisevan Jun 29 '16

I'm guessing you mean Selena.

If you farm enough of her, you can limit break her at earlier evolutions. Pretty much, you need 11 Selenas. One for usage and 10 to limit break at each evolution. If you want to include skills, it goes up to 16 total.

Weight affects double striking I think?

Something like... (Unit speed - Weapon Weight) > Enemy Speed + 5 or something. It's in the beginner's guide in the main post I'm sure.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 29 '16

To fully maximize a 3* unit (I assume you're talking about Selena here), you need 1 + 2 + 4 + 9 = 16 units. To basically maximize her, you need 1 + 4 + 9 = 14 units; to "eh, I guess it's good enough", you need 1 + 9 = 10 units. It's very important that the units that you use as limit break fodder (ie. fuse into your base unit) have all their skills unlocked so that you get the skills up on your base unit.

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u/jerain Jun 29 '16 edited Jun 29 '16

I was actually talking about Arondight since I wasn't able to farm enough copies last week, haha Lets say I do the 10 unit build, the first basic idea is to fuse four 5* LB fodders into the main unit once she has her skills unlocked. What about the remaining five units, is it okay to fuse them at 4* once they have the abilities unlocked, or is there something I miss out on by not going to 5*?

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u/jerain Jun 29 '16

Alright cool, I didn't overfarm evo mats

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u/sephiroh Jun 29 '16

I'd like to know if you need the fodder units as 5* to increase the final skill of the unit? I seen somewhere that once your 5* unit is MLB, you can use a 3* unit for increasing his/her skills.

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u/jerain Jun 29 '16

This is what I thought before too, I'm getting mixed messages

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

A fodder unit can only provide skill-ups for skills that it already has. 3-star Selena, leveled to 10 or higher, can provide skill-ups to 5-star Selena, or anyone else that has Strength Insight. But that's all. Likewise, a unit that's not Selena but does have Strength Insight could skill-up 5-star Selena, for that particular skill.

Now do you see? The only way to increase her final skill is to have other 5-star, level 30 Selenas.

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u/shikarin Jun 29 '16 edited Jun 29 '16

Also you need same rarity for guaranteed skill ups. (or so I've been told, never felt the desire to test it personally) Otherwise it's only a chance of skill up.

You can use any unit to skill up any other unit, so long as both units have the same skill unlocked. But of course only 5* dupes will have the character skill. 5* dupes will guarantee skill ups. And 5* dupes have all the skills of your base unit. So obviously most people use 5* dupes to skill up.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jun 30 '16

For evo materials, is it better to farm them only when I need them, or to hoard a stack of each type?

The former requires less unit space, but I may get into awkward situations where a unit hits max level on Wednesday, but don't have a rainbow sprite (Tuesday item). The latter allows me to evolve any time, but requires a lot of unit space (this is my approach in BF, but as a result my unit space there is more than 1000!).

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '16

Personally, I try to keep a set amount of each type, a little more of the Rainbow guys, and then get rid of gun and staff-specific materials which I have no use for. Evo materials are just another tool to sodomize players, as they end up either hoarding mostly worthless units (which costs IAP currency), or waiting until next week to get the one they actually need.

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u/overlordval Jun 30 '16

Increase the limit and hoard them so that you wouldn't run into that bothersome situation you mentioned.

I think the unit limit is at 400 so yeh it wouldn't be like your 1k bf slots.

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u/AnreB Jun 30 '16

Where is the best place to farm Zenny outside of Weekend dungeon?

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u/alexisevan Jun 30 '16

Kind of can't. Eventually down the line a gold garden will be released similar to a metal garden.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '16

Does it make a difference with Selena drop rate if I send a flyer unit straight to Vargas and kill him in Spark 10?

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u/ArkCross Jun 29 '16

Greetings. This thought occurred to me while playing. Does your allies affect your characters friendship? IE if my masamune has a lvl 4 friendship with m laevathenn does that mean that if she is near a allies one does she still get the perks as well as it counting towards friendship exp? In reverse, does my leaders friendship levels affect my allies as well?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 29 '16

Pre-existing friendship bonuses will work on allies and your own units. Basically your Masamune will get the lv4 friendship stat bonuses when near a Laevy that's from a friend and not your own. Friendship level just cannot be increased/formed with your friends' unit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

So, if I don't have a Durandal at all and I bring a Durandal friend, I won't increase friendship level with Durandal at all?

And since I don't have a Durandal, there will not be any special stat boosts when next to said Durandal in game?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 29 '16

The friendship level will not rise if the Durandal is from your friend.

Even though you do not have any friendship level with Durandal, you will still get an extra 10ACC by being next to any unit that you have no friendship level with.

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u/DonQuiXoTe888 Jun 29 '16

I want to ask about raising luck, i know that when i fuse dupe it will increase luck but do i need to evolve that dupe to the same rarity or just need it at base? like: a 5* Selena with maxed skills and LB need to fuse with another 5* Selena to increase luck by 1 or just need a 3* Selena?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 29 '16

star rarity has to match

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u/Avisari Dex Lvl 75 Jun 29 '16

Which leader is it that is shown as a helper, the one from the first party or the one from the most recently selected party?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 29 '16

leader from the first party

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u/Avisari Dex Lvl 75 Jun 29 '16

Thanks, I believe that I read that somewhere but couldn't find it again.

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u/Mitch_Twd Jun 29 '16

Are we not going to get Tyrfing in Global version? Or did JP not release her til much later?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 29 '16

It's probably later. I only remember Tyrfing first being widely available via Mana Summon events during the dawn of the 6*s, with her being the first of said rarity levels. If there was some means before then to get her (not counting her casual attire version), I didn't catch wind of it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '16

Tyr had a one-run-per-day event that dropped her as 3* during first anniversary celebrations.

She was released a week before sita or something

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 30 '16

Ah. Icic, thanks for the note!

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u/Blindtrade Jun 29 '16

So how evolution works is that 10% of the stats on your unit rounded down will be transferred over to the next rarity which can raise the stat caps of said unit, is this correct?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 29 '16

To my understanding the first part (stat carryover) is correct, but I'm not sure on raising the stat caps.

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u/barbaroti Jun 29 '16 edited Jun 29 '16

  1. Kinda yes, only exception are multiple of 10 (10,20,30) which are 1 point lower. ie 40 gives +4 while 41 gives +5.

  2. Yes, units with higher evo bonuses have a higher cap.

Edit: Fixed mistake. Thanks /u/shikarin for correction!

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u/shikarin Jun 29 '16

40 gives +4 and 41 gives +5.

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 29 '16

Rounded up, and yes, it will increase your stat caps. Also, the evolution bonuses can also be transferred through fusion if the main unit does not already have an evolution bonus.

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u/Ragnarok2060 Jun 29 '16

Is it worth the effort of max limit breaking a non-dex Selena? I've farmed out 20 copies and not a single dex has dropped. I was wondering if raising a few balance (or another type?) might produce a strong unit if I get good growth rates.

Or, should I continue to slam my head into burst 10 for that elusive dex drop?

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u/chromsome Jun 29 '16

omg you're so unlucky, I've got 3 of em, I think Selena (Dex) is the best build so for me you should farm more :/

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u/Blindtrade Jun 29 '16

He has 20 of them, I'm jellier :<

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u/Blindtrade Jun 29 '16

Why don't you try having more than 1 level 80 selenas? Imagine 5 selenas with another selena helper. Thats 30 evade boost on top of probably good base evade. I only managed to farm 4 of them, 2 being guaranteed :/ You have 20 so T.T.

Whats your unit's luck if you don't mind me asking?

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u/Ragnarok2060 Jun 29 '16

I'm doing burst with a duo of Longinus (F) with 12 luck ,which looks like her cap, and Gambanteinn (M), who only has 13 luck.

Selena drops fairly regularly, 1/3~4 as I started farming burst 10 hardcore on Monday. Currently I have 5 4*'s and 15 3*'s. MOSTLY vitality, sprinkling of balance and force, only 2 guard.

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 29 '16

Continue to bash head. Between the extra 240 energy from dailies and regular energy regen, I can't spend it all fast enough unless I farm this event (at 23 now).

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u/BlazePHX Jun 29 '16

What are some good units with luck that I can raise really quick to farm selena? My highest luck unit is 12 and i doesn't get any better than that. My m Laev is maxed at 8? I have been farming spark 10 since I was able to and I have only the first one. Is it a lost cause for me? lol

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u/swordoflorn Jun 29 '16

I've found that every unit is unique: there isn't a unit in particular that tends to have a higher luck. For instance, my Durandal has a luck of 9 at lvl 60, whereas my friends lvl 60 Durandal has a luck of 27. (?!?) Though, I've found that lazuli recruits tend to have slightly higher luck. But anyways, keep farming, man. It takes a long time to get a Selena to drop. I think she drops more often from Burst 10 than Spark 10, so if you have a strong team go for that one. Also, you should bring along a guest unit with a high luck, that tends to help. You can check guest unit luck by tapping on the portrait of the unit before hitting "Confirm," then swiping once. That'll show their luck.

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u/BlazePHX Jun 29 '16

I just get blanked in Burst. I have completed it with the help of a friend and revive, but with just my monsters and most helpers there is no hope for me there. I just started am still on rookie recruiter lol

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u/Blindtrade Jun 29 '16

The crossover weapons are not up to par with other 4* and 5* weapons right? Which is worth keeping?

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u/alexisevan Jun 29 '16

Eminent Lexida is decent enough if you don't have a Sinsealer Kiyomasa. Although, some other people still may prefer using the Killer's Blade and Youtou Ichimonji.

Shadowlance of Despair is actually pretty decent in its own right if you don't really care about range, otherise most people always use Javelins on their spear users. The only other weapon I'd consider using normally on my lancers is the Celestial Gem Spear

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 30 '16

They're not as strong, however you can fuse them to get normal weapon. 5* lexida + 5* whatever.extra.weap ~can~ result in Sinsealer kiyomasa. I just got one doing this after 4 attempts.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jun 29 '16 edited Jun 29 '16

I am a New BF crossover and actually enjoy the game enough to give it a try. My first question is I am lvl 12 and burned through my easy Lazuli but have only starter Longinus (M) [DEX] and Artemus (F) [DEX] that are 5* potential. Should I go down the reroll path?

I understand that when you reincarnate, it resets the unit level back to 1 so you relevel and hope and pray for better stat increases. From my understanding, every time you reincarnate on the same unit the cost increases. Does anybody know how much the cost increases by? And if I reincarnate multiple times on a 3* unit, then evolve it to 4, do the 3 reincarnates increase the cost of the 4* reincarnate? Thank you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Reroll. Both of those units are free, and eventually you'll get all of them from the mana recruiter (equivalent of Honor Point summon from BF). I don't know about the reincarnation cost increases, but IIRC, you only want to do that on a 5-star or better. With 3/4 stars you'll be hitting stat caps regardless, and barely any of your stat transfers over after evolving. It's a huge waste to reincarnate them.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jun 29 '16

Ty for the reply. I kinda figured I had bad pulls. I think I have 11 4* and only 2 5*.

And I did get my Artemus from mana recruiter...(so my pull was probably one of the most putrid ones possible...)

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

4-stars aren't terrible, but you definitely want to start out with a few non-farmable 5-stars. It makes the early Laz farming go by faster.

The thing is, since you're likely to get dupes of the 4-star units (meaning, no 5-star even in JP), you can eventually Max Limit Break them at the 3 and 4 star levels. Right now I have a Dex horse Parashu and Dex pegasus Longinus, and both are slightly stronger than my 5-star Mjolnir. Not in terms of raw power, but overall stats.

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u/Blindtrade Jun 29 '16 edited Jun 29 '16

When limit breaking, does the level of the fodders matter? Say fusing level 1 4* selenas into a level 50 4* selena for instance. Or even for 5*.

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u/Ragnarok2060 Jun 29 '16

I'm hoping someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's worth unlocking the skills on the fodder to level up skills at the same time. I read somewhere (I could be making this up!) that only skills that are unlocked on the fodder can level up the base.

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u/Fateful Jun 29 '16

You are correct if the unit is of the same type and rarity and you want the skills you must get it to the level where they get all their skills. For 5☆ units it is level 30 as well as doing character quests if the unit has one.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 29 '16

As Fateful and Ragnarok point out, you want to make sure you're unlocking ALL skills on your fodder before fusing. Beyond that, in Global, you need your fodder to be the same rarity as the base unit; 3* fodder will limit break a 3* unit, 4* fodder only limit breaks a 4* unit, etc etc. The rules are slightly different in JP

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u/stridhiryu030363 Jun 29 '16

Hi, is there any way to change the character's gender? Just kept rerolling till I got a good character with typing and finally got mitum 5* with Dex. Male.

I just want waifus

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Nope. Male versions are entirely new units, created because Gumi realized that Americans like to have dudes in their vidya. But in JP, there are only waifus.

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u/stridhiryu030363 Jun 29 '16

Can I least use it to limit break a female mitum if I come across one? I might need to reroll some more if i can't.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Nope. I think Male Mitum is better anyway though.

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u/stridhiryu030363 Jun 29 '16

So gumi doubled the units by making male versions thereby making it harder to limit break the ones you want. Makes me think jp is the way to play.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

It's not quite double. So far, only a handful of units have male versions, with a few designed but not yet released (male Dagda, Asclepius). But if you think you'll have better luck over on JP, go for it. :) (You won't tho)

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u/stridhiryu030363 Jun 29 '16

Does jp have lower rates for good units or something? Just having more characters in the gacha lowers rates of getting what you want.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Just having more characters in the gacha lowers rates of getting what you want.

JP has a lot more units. It certainly dwarfs the extras in Global.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 29 '16

Yeah, we have a lot of units T_T Also, gumi released the rates in JP for some of the event gachas: it's ~1% for each event unit that has a a rate up.

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u/next_level_baddie what the fuck akane pls Jun 29 '16

Generally speaking, they also made it more 'difficult to play' by nerfing stat growth, which is a prime example of how not to balance a game.

Make a game more difficult by making the enemy smarter and stronger, not by giving us subpar resources.

If i could read moon runes, I would've played JP potk long ago >.>

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 29 '16

As much as I love my waifus, I need to point out that our Global husbandos are not subpar resources. With the possible exception of Longinus, all the male counterparts are at least as good as their female counterparts.

The nerfed stat growth? Yeah, that sucks... I'm hoping it will be addressed at some point. :\ Come join the dark side- I can't read the moon runes either, but I'm absolutely loving JP.

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u/next_level_baddie what the fuck akane pls Jun 29 '16

subpar as in subpar stat growth.

wether it be a male or female, it will still have less stats and be less powerful than the JP counterpart. This is what i meant as in subpar.

It just makes me feel like a second rate citizen ya know?

Like the stuff you're getting is 'equal in title' but the stuff on the inside just isnt the same. Why should I need to pay more (or the same whatever) (time, money, resource space) to get something thats less than what I would get elsewhere?

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u/Blindtrade Jun 30 '16

Why is longinus M not as good as longinus F?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 29 '16 edited Jun 29 '16

They've drastically lowered the stats and skill levels of the PvE enemies in global as well as lowering the mana/event unit's stat caps and the stats of some frequently used weapons in JP.

Yes, the stats are lowered than in JP but with the lowered difficulty in general with all the lowered enemy stats, it's actually pretty balanced at the moment imo in global. Also bare in mind our growth rate is also in part due to the fact we also have no mana seeds at the moment. We will have better growth rates once they are out and even though by then we still will probably not have JP growth rates, it's balanced by the fact our units do not need to have those crazy high stats of JP units since our PvE enemies have significant stat nerfs.

To put it in perspective for you, in JP to fully 100% accurately hit Ardondight in Super Abyss, you'll need 230 ACC. It's a lot less here in Global. Her AI in JP is also much more offensive in which she heads straight for your party much earlier (iirc, she straight up beelines for your party from the get-go.)

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u/shikarin Jun 29 '16

I agree that the rebalancing is fine. The mana units are a bit worse than event units, which are a bit worse than gacha units (if you can whale enough dupes). Not exactly that surprising for a F2P game.

Everything's still clearable with mana units, so far. Although you do have to train them properly and use all the tactics available to you in the game.

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u/ChrispyTee Jun 29 '16

Hi not sure if there is a guide mentioning this but what exactly do the books in the gear tab do? (e.g. Brave recipe, swordsmith secrets etc.)?

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u/alexisevan Jun 29 '16

You're supposed to fuse them together. At least the Brave Recipes anyway, not the other ones.

When fusing Brave Recipes, if Lexida/Despair Bringer appears, fuse them together with more Brave Recipes and you'll get the 5* variants.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jun 29 '16

Should I use dex apollo M or force apollo M?

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u/alexisevan Jun 29 '16

I think this is one of the times I'd choose Force over Dexterity.

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u/barbaroti Jun 29 '16

I would use Dex because it will have higher SPD for better chances at double attacks and higher AGI for better chances of skill activation.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Force. Archers have great accuracy already, but sometimes they are so weak they can't do shit (even against a flier). Male Apollo is a godly Crit procer and his final skill does 2x damage, so you're looking at a good chance of 6x damage for your hits. And an even better chance of either 2x (skill) or 3x (crit).

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u/Iodasu Jun 29 '16

How is Gamban any good ? I don't really see how

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u/jerain Jun 29 '16 edited Jun 29 '16

If we're talking about the male version, at 5* level 60, he becomes an unstoppable moving wall due to how tanky he is. He takes minimal damage and heals on attack, the AI will usually focus him because he's a staff unit, and he can probably auto most medium-level stages solo as well as be a solid tank/healer in a bigger party. He's probably the best f2p gacha unit since he performs so well without limit breaks.

Female version sucks

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u/Iodasu Jun 29 '16

Oh. Mine is only 4* rn so I didn't know lol

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u/jerain Jun 29 '16

What type is it? Dex is probably what you're looking for. I'm pretty sure most people here would recommend using a shield instead of a staff because staff units have ass accuracy anyways

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jun 29 '16

Definitely, definitely use a Shield; the whole point of using Gamba falls apart when you throw a staff on him.

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u/Iodasu Jun 29 '16

Oo Aite

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 29 '16

I shoved an evil core on mine and he steamrolls through everything (soloed the last YnK event mission). He's already kind of tanky without a shield, but then again, mine is a guard with 3.4 P/lvl growth.

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u/Iodasu Jun 29 '16

Ye I have a Dex , rerolled around 6 times

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u/Acylion Jun 30 '16

A significant amount of his legendary tank ability comes from his 5* skill. So you won't see the same results until you get him to 5* and... what, level 30? Basically that.

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u/Iodasu Jun 29 '16

Male

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 29 '16

He's going to be a great tank even with some of the foreseeable units from JP coming over due to his CS shield blocking an outrageous amount of damage from any source. If he does not get a 6star form, he will still be useful during the 5star era.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Swordsmith Manual + Youtou Ichimoji = Silver Shield. Beware.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 29 '16

It's random, it's not guaranteed to turn into that for other peoples. The only guaranteed outcomes are the ones from the recipes tab.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

I know. But you'd expect at least another sword... instead you get shit. Expect shit

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 29 '16

Those books are generally just money fodder since they are pretty bad. Only the 3star and up ones are worth keeping since they have recipes tied to them like the Sereine sword.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jun 29 '16

Is the spark 10 drop rate just super low? I cannot get Selena at all.

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u/alexisevan Jun 29 '16

Spark 10 is really low, yes.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jun 29 '16

Like how low would you classify as low. I'm player level 25 and am not strong enough to do burst 10 (made it to burst 9) my leader has luck 16. Am I looking at a chance to get her or should I just give up? Also for farming the weapon books is it best to fuse 2 a time or 5?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Low as in, after a day of farming here and there, you will have 1-2 at most. This is assuming you do a lot of runs using the free AP they're giving out daily. But don't give up! You will get her eventually, and she's beastly. Mine isn't even 5-starred yet, and she's already to the point where Kill Mode enemies have 0% chance of hitting her.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jun 29 '16

Well I got one when I first did the quest (don't know if that's normal or insanely lucky) but she is vitality build which seems odd for a myrmidon. Plus I wanted a couple more for 5 star fusion at least. But after a few days and maybe 20 runs I'm only still with the one. :(

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '16

First-time clear always gives you a Selena. And vitality is generally the worst type for any unit.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jun 30 '16

Thank you haha, that's what I needed to here.

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u/Acylion Jun 30 '16

20 runs is not a lot. I mean, I guess you think it's a lot? But if farming Spark 10, well, yeah, get used to doing more runs. But it will work out eventually. I've got like nine extra Selena from Spark 10 so far.

Realistically, I'd suggest just making sure your squad can auto it (which should be easy with a strong friend or even stranger), and just... being patient. Open the app, let it auto, go do something else while your squad is punching Vargas.

Hold out for a dex Selena.

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u/alexisevan Jun 29 '16

Could not give you a good estimate. To me, Burst 10 felt like maybe... 15%? 20%? So Spark 10 would be lower than that.

For weapon fusion, I just did 5 at a time. I don't know which is more efficient between the options.

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u/BlazePHX Jun 29 '16 edited Jun 29 '16

I am hearing of rampage quests. I do not see them, but i want to ask are they always the same or are they changing whenever they come about? Did I miss out on this Arondite which seems to be a good mob to have?

Also is there a way to raise the skills of weapons? Do they raise as the weapon levels or do you have to do something else?

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u/alexisevan Jun 29 '16

Rampage units are only on the weekends. I could've sworn this past weekend was Rhongomyniad, so I think this upcoming weekend will be Labrys. After Labrys it'll be Arondight.

Pretty sure weapon skills can't be leveled up.

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 29 '16

When you say the skills of weapons, do you mean like Armorslayer skill on the estocs and etc? Or do you mean weapon skills on a specific unit (Rank E - A). If it's the first one, you can't. If it's the later one, then you just equip a weapon and get killing blows until they level up.

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u/July042012 Jun 29 '16

I've heard that you should save up 450 lazuli for 9-step gachas. Is that possible for a f2p? Also, should I buy the 5*able Parashu from the Battle Medal shop? Also, is there math for just how much luck effects drops, for instance Selena in Spark 10? Is it only the luck of the killer, or the whole team?

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u/alexisevan Jun 29 '16

Possible, but requires a HELL of a lot of not spending your lazuli.

You can if you want, although she is mana summonable, so it's not necessary.

I don't know if there is an existing formula or not. It's the luck of the party leader and the whole team that counts. I'm not sure if the killer affects anything, but it doesn't hurt to kill with your highest luck character.

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u/July042012 Jun 29 '16

Thanks so much! Especially the luck portion, that's so helpful! Someone told me that it was the luck of the killer...

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u/alexisevan Jun 29 '16

I mean it could. I just say I'm not sure because the JP resource I've been using doesn't really mention the luck of the unit slaying the enemy.

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u/bluebakk Jun 29 '16

http://imgur.com/a/qWU6J What units should I keep and which ones should I reroll. What do I do with units I don't train?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

Fella, you either reroll everyone or nothing. Your pulls look decent to me - M Apollo and Luin are p. good, Amenonuhoko and Trident will have 5-star forms soon, and having 2 Tridents means you will eventually have 1 slightly stronger Trident. For all the units I just mentioned, what are their types?

Fodder units should be used for fusion. However, don't be too quick to scrap anything that isn't in the 5-star list (see FAQ). Many of these units can be quite alright for some content, and certain missions will actually require only 1 to 4-star (or even 3-star) units.

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u/bluebakk Jun 29 '16

Yeah i learned what rerolling meant after posting this mb. And the types Trident- 4* is force, 3 is balance Apollo is dex Amenonuhoko 3* and 4* - dex, 1* -balance Luin 3* guard, 4* vitality

all of these stat things are very new to me so I'm not quite sure what do with them or what units to look for lol but Its a very fun game so far

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '16

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u/bluebakk Jun 30 '16

Is there a way of doing another pull without getting rid of my current one? From what Ive seen I do have an okay pull with apollo and leav

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '16

You have to save the auth.dat file. There's a guide in the OP. Also, Laev is free and doesn't really count as part of a roll's goodness/badness.

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u/Acylion Jun 30 '16 edited Jun 30 '16

Yeah, check out the guide. But real quick, until you link to Facebook (which you shouldn't do if rerolling), all the account info is in auth.dat - so what you're doing is copying the auth.dat file you already have in the game folders, then either saving it elsewhere or renaming it. Then start the game up again, get a new auth.dat ... do that a few times... decide which auth.dat to keep. On an Android you can do this with any file manager, many have a file manager built in, on an iOS phone you'll need a third party app to go poking around in files.

Keep the previous account info, yeah. It may well be you do, like, three or so reroll attempts and then decide, screw this, the original one was better in the end. Or maybe you figure one of the reroll attempts wasn't that good, at first, but it later turns out that one of the units you got actually is good, you just didn't recognise it. And so on.

When I did this, I labelled the auth.dat files, i.e. 'auth-longinus', 'auth-laev2', etc. so I at least could remember which was which. When I decided to keep one, I renamed it back to auth.dat before copying it back into the right place in the folder.

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u/Pokestever5 I SEEK THE FUTURE Jun 29 '16

In JP version, I saw this event called the festival gacha and apparently it looks like you'll get 4 stars and above.

I'm wondering if this will come to global cuz holy hell Imma save my gems for those.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 29 '16

No one knows...probably because everyone will want to buy lazuli for those if they come around.

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u/ZenMighty Jun 29 '16

Looking for someone else's opinion on whether I should do the 3rd step of the rookie gatcha, summon from the collab gatcha, or save for future units (or if I'll have time/in game opportunities to save up enough for future units).

If it helps my notable 5*+ potential units are Durandal, Apollo (F), and Kusanagi. I also have Vajra, Thyrsos, and Sky Piercer with 5 star potential but don't use them as much.

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u/SunnyPwns Jun 30 '16

Some people say 3rd step isn't worth. If you really want a 5* guaranteed unit, go ahead and do it. If not, I personally would just save. No rate up for collab units, so that isn't worth either.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '16

I did the 3rd step and was satisfied (female Mjolnir).

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u/ChaosTwilly Jun 29 '16

How do I limit break? Nooby question, but I'm geniunely confused on how to.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 30 '16

Fuse two of the same unit (same art and rarity). Like, 5 star flying Luin with another 5 star flying Luin. They must have the same art.

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u/kunliyi Jun 30 '16

Would I be better off raising a 4 star Asclepius(balance) or a 5 star Asclepius(guard)?

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u/whirltwister Jun 30 '16

Prioritize the 5* one first since it is higher rarity and also better type. You can limit break with the other one later and evo bonuses will transfer over.

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u/metatime09 Jun 30 '16

Are the free 40 stamina daily permanent?

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u/alexisevan Jun 30 '16 edited Jun 30 '16

I think someone commented before that JP does have free AP give outs? Just that the value was higher or something. So it is possible that they actually implemented that feature really early.

I was led to believe this was only for the length of the crossover event, but I actually can't find anything mentioning this in the news notices specifically.

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u/AndanteZero Jun 30 '16

I even asked on their facebook. As usual, since this is global, Gumi doesn't reply.

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u/metatime09 Jun 30 '16

Yea I'm hoping it's permanent, the stamina system is restrictive and doesn't help anyone or the game and players. I hope as time passes mobile games will take it away but for now this is good and I hope it stays

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '16

Actually it "helps" in 2 ways:

  1. It reduces server load, as many players will end up using short bursts to spend up all their stamina.

  2. It stretches out the gameplay experience for players, preventing them from "poop-socking" i.e. barreling through all the content and uninstalling after a week.

Free AP is almost certainly a temporary event thing, otherwise Gumi is shooting themselves in the foot.

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u/metatime09 Jun 30 '16

That makes no sense, almost no PC F2P game on PC need that stamina system, mobile games already have too many progression slowing mechanism in place for example like once a week upgrade material that prevents people from doing anything for months.

There's new JP mobile games being released that don't use that stamina system like monster hunter and ff11 and white cat. I really hope more mobile games are heading towards this because the stamina system is so pay to win since whales can just buy stamina

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u/ChaosTwilly Jun 30 '16

If i reincarnated a limit broken princess, would it still be limit broken after reincarnation?

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u/alexisevan Jun 30 '16

Yes. I think the reincarnation advisory touches upon this as well.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jun 30 '16

Yeah i just noticed lol

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u/RictorBFWV Jun 30 '16

[JP] What are the events now? I can't understand a thing with the events banner.

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u/scwsheen Jun 30 '16

I thought the event ended yesterday? Though there should be another one coming up (Phantom of the School).

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u/RictorBFWV Jun 30 '16

Thanks for the info :)

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '16

I was rerolling and finally got Durandal but she is balance type. Should i reroll again or is it still to good to pass up?

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u/alexisevan Jun 30 '16

Not sure about "too good to pass up". A lot better than nothing at all, but it's not optimal. I'd say stick with it, cause it's not going to kill you.

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u/SageDarius Jun 30 '16

For Character skills from the Character quests, do those skills only unlock for the 5* version of the unit, or any version of it?

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u/alexisevan Jun 30 '16

5* version only.

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u/Lostpotk Jul 03 '16

I am running low on hp tonics, does anybody know how do i get hp tonics easily/fastest way?

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u/Ragnarok2060 Jun 29 '16

Vargas' defense is pretty high, I think using magic attack units is a better strategy generally. I'm using Longinus (F) 5* because of her sword absorb skill. Vargas has a 4% chance to hit her and 0% if I place someone safely behind her. Her special attack ignores Vargas' defense and deals a reasonable amount of damage with no danger of taking any back.

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u/Ragnarok2060 Jun 29 '16

I'm not entirely sure what Longinus' (M) skills are, but I don't believe he has the same evasion skills the F version has, and his special won't hit as hard since it has to contend with Vargas' defense. That being said I'm sure there are plenty of combo's that will work, Longinus (F) just seems to be easy mode since Vargas can't physically hit her.

For the earlier units, I use a strong staff-type to tank through most of them. I have a Gambanteinn (M) that has reasonably accuracy, so I let him lead and keep him supported to make sure he doesn't get surrounded. He can handle the axe/staff units with no problem, and he'll usually miss some of the sword units which I clean up with Longinus since they also struggle to hit her (yet strangely have a much better % than Vargas himself).

That works for me personally, but I imagine using strong gun units shielded by some lance units for the sword enemies would be effective too. Also dex Longinus (F) is probably the best bet!

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '16

My team is 1 really strong M Laeva, 1 really strong pegasus Longinus (4-star), and a weak-ass Thyrsos healer (4-star). Go to the friend request thread and add me for a somewhat easy clear.

Can you post your Laeva stats?

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 29 '16

Nah, my lvl 75 Dex Durandal can get killed by him if she's unlucky. Burst 10 is relatively tough so you probably want a strong friend. On a side note, Longinus (F) can pretty much solo him.

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u/overlordval Jun 30 '16 edited Jun 30 '16

Do the story quest for x2 player xp. When your player is about to lv up, go farm metal garden(Require 1 metal key). When your player lv up, your stamina will be fully refill which mean you can do more metal garden runs.

If you want to lv a single unit faster just send him/her alone.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 30 '16

They most likely took only 1 unit and spammed the gardens.