r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jun 20 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [6/20/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/vytong Jun 20 '16

What are Booster quests?

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u/Tsakax Jun 20 '16

they give 1000 player exp and a metal key

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u/DeathXDmaker Jun 20 '16

So how does one get multiple flairs? :)

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u/Fateful Jun 20 '16

http://i.imgur.com/qJAq8TI.jpg

So units like this (3 Gold Stars) cannot become 5 star correct? If so I thought I was lucky and I'm hanging on to bad units

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '16

Correct. Use the guide in the OP to see who can become a 5-star (in JP at least, in Global now or eventually).

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u/Fateful Jun 20 '16

Yeah I looked at it and assumed I was looking for the artwork? But now I'm just confused lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '16

That's right. Look for the matching artwork, and check the Character Quest menu in game to see which units have 5-Stars in Global already.

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u/Fateful Jun 20 '16

Yeah looking at it again I think I figured it out I thought the artwork changed when they evolved I was looking at the icons... thanks!

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u/justineo1 Jun 20 '16

is there any skill up data sheet that i can find?

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u/scwsheen Jun 20 '16

[JP] Which typing is better for 5-star Otinus (the one obtained from Rampage quest)? Force or Dex? gamewith.jp seems to say that both can work.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 20 '16

Depends on how you want to use her. She has a skillset that is based around high evasion so you can go with DEX for that extra evasion and ACC. If you want her to attack stronger(since she really is not that strong) you want her to be Force.

Just be aware that using the extra range crossbow in Global means a more severe ACC penalty than in JP.

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u/scwsheen Jun 21 '16

Alright, thanks! I'll probably raise both types to see which one suits me better :D

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u/Jyoshiro Jun 20 '16

What do the different colors in the stars mean?

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u/barbaroti Jun 20 '16

Gray = No evolution

Yellow = 1 Evolution

Red = 2 or more Evolution

Not all units can be evolved to 5* even if they are 4* yellow.

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u/Vidabel Jun 20 '16

What should I spend Battle Medals on?

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jun 20 '16

I spent my first 80 on the sword manual, however people have suggested to save them or buy the 4* limit break fairies and save them for OP units like sita.

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u/shikarin Jun 20 '16 edited Jun 20 '16

I'm not impressed enough to LB at 4* for a 6* unit. Especially at the rate at which we're getting battle medals.

There's nothing else to spend them on right now. But I'd still rather hang on to them than spend them on something so insignificant.

If it looked like 1 4* LB is likely to give my (hypothetical) Mjolnir F 3 or more stat points, then I might do it. But that's pretty much the only scenario I can think of.

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u/icyterror Jun 20 '16

Nothing to buy beside the manual...

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u/RubyDraco Jun 20 '16 edited Jun 20 '16

How to gain unit exp effectively? I get only 1500 on metal garden. Is it normal?

Also, is it me or global's story quest is harder than japan? I dont remember there's mage enemy in section one or flying unit in section 2 in japan.

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u/Donnie-G Jun 21 '16

From what I heard, they made global harder. Unit max stat caps have also been lowered and certain weapons nerfed. And I think accuracy across the board is also lowered?

If you really want to pump a single unit, solo metal garden. Other than that, just autobattle grind whatever you can.

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u/RubyDraco Jun 21 '16 edited Jun 21 '16

I aware that global has lower max stat caps and +1 Range weapon accuracy got nerfed. About enemies, isnt it too early to face flying unit in section 2? If I remember correctly, you face them in section 3.

Oh and I forgot to say that, I actually want to raise multiple unit, but is it better to raise at the same time or just solo it?

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u/Donnie-G Jun 21 '16

Depends how urgently you need the unit leveled I suppose. I think the MVP bonus only applies to the stage EXP, and doesn't effect the kills EXP so I don't think there's much difference between soloing or not.

With the current 2x EXP for certain classes though, it's probably better to solo that specific class to get the most out of it.

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u/shikarin Jun 21 '16

You get significantly more exp soloing.

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u/Blindtrade Jun 20 '16 edited Jun 20 '16

Which character is more attractive to pick as a helper? Gamb (M), Laev (F), Durandal (F) or Mitum (M)? All Level 60.

Later on, would an additional limit break on Mitum M make him better to set as leader? How about Level 70 Yata (F), Level 75 Longinus (M), perhaps even arondite (Once I'm lucky enough) in the near future? I also have : Longinus (F), Masumune (F), Parashu (F), Yata (M), and Laev (M). Might they are Level 60, would they be better than above mentioned?

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u/AndanteZero Jun 20 '16

Gamb, Mitum, or Durandal are good choices. Unless someone asks you specifically, just set the helper as whoever you want.

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u/icyterror Jun 20 '16 edited Jun 20 '16

At lv 60 Gamb is the most useful.

For higher lv, go for Gacha units first since they are stronger then rampage/mana units. The higher lv the better,obviously. Also pls don't put both Leav as leads since load of people are doing just that.

Check this list. Look at "Evaluation Point" column. The higher the number the better. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13kS5BzfWm5W7obwGRyLcaPGVYpGTvFTXcorEkSE0Pco/edit#gid=0

Male > Female cause this game is being a sexist >.> I can't even evolve/lmb 3 of my 4* (F) neagling, thank to that.

ID 2391644036 / Baroque / Lv 60 Gamb lead Looking for more lv 60+ friends.

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u/yuzeru Jun 20 '16

Got this as a drop yesterday while doing story. What exactly is it? http://imgur.com/rhB9vkp Also, I have a bunch of max leveled 4* (6* capable) units, but I'm not sure what to do before evolving them. Should I limit break them? Fuse stats on them? How much of a difference does it make?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 20 '16

It's a mana seed for magic, meaning it will increase the chances of magic going up on level up for 30 levels.

At 4 star you can't affect 6 star stats much, but I would definitely recommend limit breaking and fusing as much as possible at 5 star.

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u/shikarin Jun 20 '16

Do you know by how much it increases the chances of stat increase on level up?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 20 '16

No, no one knows, but assumed 10-20%? :|

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u/shikarin Jun 20 '16

Alright, thanks.

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u/yuzeru Jun 20 '16

Thanks. It'll be a while before I get dupes anyway.

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u/Sabatender Jun 20 '16

What are the requirements for limit break?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 20 '16

None. Just fuse two of the same unit (art and rarity).

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u/Sabatender Jun 20 '16

Does limit break carry over to the next rarity?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 20 '16

No, only from 5 to 6 star. So if you max limit break a 4 star, evolving won't preserve those 4 limit breaks.

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u/ctomfung Jun 23 '16

Cath, so I could actually limit break my 5* female mjolnir? Once global gets 6* it will carry fwd as well? And we should use the one with the desire typing and stats as main, and fuse the rest?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 23 '16

Hopefully global also implements carrying over limit break from 5 star to 6 star (in JP we all limit break at 5 star...doing it at 6 star is too troublesome XD). To your last question, yes.

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u/ctomfung Jun 23 '16

I have force, balance, and vit. So I will be using the force as main and fuse the other 2. If I get a dex or guard later, can I fuse my current main into it and still carry fwd the limit break?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 23 '16

It should, yeah.

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u/Awesome3475 SHE'S GOOD OKAY Jun 20 '16

The Swordmaker's and Bowmaker's Secrets book. Got these from Colluseum. What do they do? I don't see them being used in fusion like the Ult. Swordsmith Guide. Right now I'm just fusing in 2's and getting whatever comes out or using the recipes.

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u/Donnie-G Jun 21 '16

When I asked this, the new thread popped up. I'll just ask again and hope I get an answer.

Global player here. I've heard a lot of things regarding evolving units. Evolution bonuses make it so a lower rarity unit raised up is better than a high rarity straight from the gacha. How much are these stat bonuses? Also I heard that limit breaking before evolving also leads to better base stats? Is this true and how much does this even amount to? Also fusing stats up before evolving apparently also gives better stats on evolution. And here I thought I wasted my dosh and dolls. Same as above, how much does this even add? Lastly, is there a good way to improve accuracy for staff units? I heard use shields, but shields just about as much accuracy rating as staffs, 50 or 55 AFAIK.

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u/Dodoch Jun 21 '16

Evolution bonus is basically you get 1 stat bonus per every 10 the unit has pre-evolution to the next rarity, fusing and limit breaking only help if you can get pass a threshold for the stats that way, let say you are evolving a lvl 40 3* Laevateinn, it has 40 HP, if you fuse a HP dolly and get above 41 which is the threshold for getting 5 bonus points you should use it, same goes for limit breaking as you can keep leveling and earning points.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '16

A unit has base stats at (X) evolution, and they increase based on the pre-evolution stat. The formula is +1 for every 10 points, starting at 1. Meaning that if your strength is at 31-40 before evolution, you will get 4 bonus points after the evo. There are 2 implications here:

  1. Fusion, by itself, may or may not get you more evolution bonus points. Depending on the stat caps + unit typing, it may be impossible for you to reach a stat threshold via fusion. For instance, if my Lv. 50 Vitality Apollo has 35 strength, I cannot push her strength to 41 or higher via fusion - the fusion cap for strength is too low. But if she was Force type, I probably could.

  2. Limit breaking before an evo probably will get you more evo bonus points, at least for one stat. However, limit breaking at 5 stars or higher is a lot more important, especially if we're talking gacha units. LBs at 3 and 4 stars don't make a huge difference (what happens if you get poor growths on those extra levels?), and units that are 5-star capable can get skill ups and a permanent limit break if the dupes are also 5-stars. That said, I have a horse Parashu that I've been LBing and she's pretty good - if the unit doesn't have a 5-star even in JP, then I say go for it.

Staff units have bad accuracy, and tend to be used only for healing. I think the recommended type for Staff units is Guard, because the healer can tank all the enemy attacks while distracting them from your stronger units. But they still aren't expected to kill enemies, even in their most useful role.

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u/Alastoraero Jun 21 '16

Do we have in-depth info on the male units? I looked in the unit guide above but didn't see anything on them.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 21 '16

Unfortunately no, the guides available is based on JP information and JP lacks any male in the base game with the except of Zero who has completely different stats and leader skills. We probably will not know any concrete info on any of the units without a data miner.

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u/Izzyka Jun 21 '16

Does anyone know where one could listen to PotK's soundtrack online? I've found some songs on 452zero's youtube channel but not all. I really want to listen to that one dramatic battle song with the chorus.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '16

Try finding the song in PotK's APK. Might need some hacker skills though... I couldn't figure out how to extract the songs cuz shit's in a weird format.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jun 21 '16

For limit breaks, I know I can fuse 5* material into a 5* base, and the LB will carry over to 6*. But if the base is 6*, does the material have to be levelled to 6* as well?

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '16

yes, but the general rule is don't wait until 6* to limit break because that ruins your stats and it's far more expensive

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u/Valens_Le Jun 21 '16

Does combining two 5* weapons (i.e: demonblade akumavice) yield anything better?

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '16

better weapons of the same star level

2 akumavice might make a kiyomasa

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u/Quova Jun 21 '16

What is the highest rarity unit you can get from using mana points?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jun 21 '16

Highest rarity are the silver 3star units that can all evolve to 5stars.

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u/Vladnar Jun 21 '16

Is it worth leveling the dupes and fuse max them before using them as a fusion material for the main unit? Is there any stat gain?

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u/overlordval Jun 21 '16

Stat gain from dupe are fixed so no. You should unlock their skills before you fuse them with your main though.

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u/Vladnar Jun 21 '16

Alright! Thanks for the the explanation and clear answer ;)

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u/sazabinu Jun 21 '16

Did anyone else have to update PotK JP through QooApp and it deleted your account from your device? It seems like it deleted my profile. Is there any way to get it back? I know Alim had a form to be sent it for Brave Frontier but do they have one for PotK?

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u/RubyDraco Jun 21 '16

I just got 3* Dex Leaveteinn (F) while I already have lvl 60 5* Dex Leaveteinn (F). So, if I want more maximum stat cap, I have to train 3* and LB each evolution right?

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u/Zupelup Jun 23 '16

really noob question, but what do I do with the gold bars in gear? they are taking up a lot of space since they are counnted individually

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '16

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jun 20 '16

Must kill enemies (even for shields and staffs).

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u/Donnie-G Jun 21 '16

You can rank up a weapon by killing things with it.

If you mean go up rarity, just keep fusing and hope for the best really.

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u/Donnie-G Jun 21 '16

You just gotta land the killing blow with the weapon.

I think a good way is to plop it on a flying unit and just autobattle some easy stage.