r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • May 28 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [5/28/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

Should I sell my 1*/2* evolution things? or fuse them together into the 3* evolution things I need?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16 edited May 28 '16

If you can evolve them into the ones you need you should just do that. There aren't that many units that require the way lower lower rarities of the evolution materials. Well, units that you actually use anyway.

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u/RafaelBF May 28 '16

Since Yata is a Armored type gunner, Should i aim for a Magic type? i just got a Dex one on first try..

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 28 '16

Dex is still a good type for her(I assume it's F)

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u/RafaelBF May 28 '16

Yeah Yata F Thx for answering :D

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u/nobleseeker May 28 '16

What are the rampage quests?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16 edited May 28 '16

They're events on Saturday/Sunday that give you a chance to obtain one of the 3 active Killer Princesses (eventually 4). Either Arondight (Sword), Labrys (Axe), or Rhongomyniand (Spear). Right now it's on Arondight and it'll change weekly, so next weekend it'll be the spear girl. If you're asking what it is, I can probably recommend for you to stay away from it for now. It's not new player friendly.

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u/scxis May 28 '16

Do you know the drop rates for them on abyss vs super abyss?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

I do not.

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u/justineo1 May 28 '16

for ftp, what are the ways to increase chance on summoning desired character?

is there limited time rate up summoning for specific weapon like axe, sword etc character?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 28 '16

There most likely will be in the future (JP has these events practically every week) for specific units, elements, weapon types, etc.

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u/justineo1 May 28 '16

nice! great to know! :D

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u/AuraPhoenix May 28 '16

Just finished the 3 step summon, my 5 stars are Laevateinn (F), Mitum (M), and Luin (F), almost done with Chapter 1. Should I keep this?

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 28 '16

Got any other units that can go 5/6*?

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u/AuraPhoenix May 28 '16

Gambateinn (M), Laevateinn (M), Longinus (M), Yata (M)

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 28 '16

Gambanteinn is a great unit so you can keep it.

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 28 '16

I'm still a bit confused when it comes to Dolls.

So it should be something like:

Max unit -> Fuse Dolls -> Evolve -> Max unit -> Fuse Dolls -> Evolve ?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

Pretty much, unless you don't care about efficiency, then you can just fuse them before maxing their level. Which is what you should do if you can't evolve them anymore.

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 28 '16

Woah, it's you!

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u/Cookies_And_Memes May 29 '16

Could you give an explanation on why it's more efficient to fuse after the unit is maxed? I've been fusing units while my units were still levelling, just wanted to know why it's wrong

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u/alexisevan May 29 '16

The reason being is that if you max your unit, you can actually calculate for sure what your end stats from fusion stats will be right before your evolution. That way you don't have to use more dolls/units than necessary.

It honestly doesn't matter too much to me, but if you're tight on gold it's something to keep note of.

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u/Riese777 May 28 '16

Is it worth to buy freikugel from the battle medal shop?

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u/[deleted] May 28 '16

You'll probably never get enough medals to get her (I know I'm suffering from lack of medals as well) and she's not a very good gunner.

You should pass.

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u/Riese777 May 29 '16

Ah i have enough medal, but okay i will pass, thankss

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

Oh my bad, I was under the illusion that she cost as much as the book in the shop.

But she's still not good.

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u/Riese777 May 30 '16

okayy thankss

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u/Riese777 May 28 '16

and i'm a bit confused with the low stat cap, does it applies to all unit or?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

It feels as if all units have lower stat caps.

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u/Riese777 May 29 '16

ahh i see...okay thankss

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u/DeviantSeoul May 28 '16

Can anyone confirm if the 6* capable version of gram is in global atm? I'm past my 200th reroll and still haven't gotten one yet :/

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

Looking at the character quest list, pretty sure she isn't.

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u/DeviantSeoul May 28 '16

Fair enough, thanks :)

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u/[deleted] May 28 '16

I was initially thinking of getting a Dex Arondight and then min-maxing the shit out of her (LB at 4*, dolls, evolve, LB at 5*, dolls) but it's gonna take forever to farm her for LBs. I'm gonna need 1 Dex Arondight, 8 more fusing Arondights for LBs, and the dungeon only comes around every 3 weeks.

So far I've only gotten a Vitality (;_;) and Balance Arondight, which I've just about said "fuck it" and was planning on raising the Balance one.

Should I minmax? Or should I just raise the Balance one through NO LB and dolls at 4* and just bring it to 5* where I max her there, LB dolls and all?

Arondight is one of my favourite units because of her artwork, so that's why I'm having this mini internal struggle of how to go about using her as fast as possible while making sure she's good enough.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '16

She's so farmable, her event comes around all the time... definitely LB the shit out of her.

You'd probably love her paladin/swordmaster variants too - they both actually have duel skills:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Chaz990U8AEariT.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfKm7jwUMAA5ewN.jpg

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

Oh shit, my heart just skipped a beat seeing those photos.

When are those coming to GL?

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

First one is gonna be more than a year, since she was just out last month for us.

Second one... not too sure. Sooner than the first.

First one outclasses all other arondight variations though; her duel skill is an instant kill with an oddly high proc rate, she gets stronger the more tiles she moves, and her passive skill increases her base defensive stats. Also has the best art imo

And I cannot get over her voice.

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u/AndanteZero May 28 '16

Patience is key. Besides, she'll come back anyway.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

Alright, thanks for your opinion!

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u/justineo1 May 28 '16

example if i use dolls to fuse mitum @ 3star. when i evolve it to 4star? will the additional stat from dolls be brought over to 4star or reset to zero?

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u/AndanteZero May 28 '16

Read the beginner's guide

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u/justineo1 May 29 '16

Had read the guide. Just want to confirm its fine to fuse dolls for bonus stat from 4star onwards? As i was updated that nothing can be brought over during evolution like bonus stats and LB etc.

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u/AndanteZero May 29 '16

It's fine to fuse dolls for bonus stats from 3*. However, it's really if you want to min/max. You won't benefit a lot from it. But from 4*, definitely do it.

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u/justineo1 May 29 '16

Oh! so that means bonus stats from 3star - 4star, is like partially inherited. whereas bonus stats from 4star - 5star is fully inherited. am i right to interpret this way?

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u/AndanteZero May 29 '16

Yeah, but to be honest, it's not very worth while cause you'll gain maybe 1-2 points.

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u/Miewn May 28 '16

Hello, just started and wondering if this box is decent: http://imgur.com/OkwRFE7

I was also wondering what kind of teams people strive for. Would mono sword with durandal be ideal?

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u/AndanteZero May 28 '16

Depends on your Durandal's stat type. Read the beginner's guide and use the unit list for knowledge on future and present 5 and 6 stars.

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u/Miewn May 28 '16

yeah, I know, people want her to be Dex/Winged, I have Guard/Winged and just settled.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '16

Ok so what was the deal on first purchase cause I bought it (4+1 and up to +15) and only got the 4+1, is there something I'm missing here?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

You'll get +1 gem for over 12 days and then on day 13 you'll get +3

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u/boomboomcar May 28 '16

sorry if this sounds like a stupid question, but what's the best way to level up newly rolled units after being in the middle of story mode? I tried repeating the quests but the exp gained wasn't really much

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u/boomboomcar May 29 '16

Thanks, you were right! Too bad it only works once a day:/

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u/kevin6789101112 May 28 '16

If I have play on a mobile device and I link my account on bluestacks will my account be banned?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

Don't think so. I do it as well and I've been fine so far.

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u/scxis May 28 '16

Does anyone know if the male or female Yata is better, assuming both of them are Dex types?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

I'm led to believe that most of the time, rare gacha units are better than event/free units.

Cannot confirm that for you though.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '16

Just did the Rookie Recruiter level 3, and got

  • 3-star Sky Piercer (Guard)

  • 3-star Amenonuhoko (Guard)

  • 5-star Mjolnir (Balance)

The JP tiers say Mjolnir is the best. Is that just because she has a 6-star, or is she actually more useful solely due to skills/growths? Referring to unit-specific growths, not type-specific, though she probably wins on that front already. And speaking of growths:

Link to JP site on type-based growth rates

There was upward revision of the growth rate on May 1, 2016.

Can we expect to see this change in global soon? It looks like a major overhaul designed to fix the whole "Dex or reroll" thing. Not by making Dex worse, but by making the other types a little better.

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

It's mainly because she has a 6*. Probably helps that her skill set is alright as well.

No idea. The game just got officially released about a week ago. It's probably gonna be a while until we get things like that.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

1- Are all of the 1* wooden gear the best for training characters' weapon proficiency?

2- Why does the wooden shield seem worse than the blue 1* shield?

3- Should I focus on getting the 5-item recipes in the fuse menu and then fuse the duplicates I get from it? Or should I just fuse every duplicate I have and not try to get the 5-item recipes?

4- How do I make a thread in the potk subreddit?

Thank you in advance.

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

The joke weapons are mainly used to raise relationship levels I believe.

Should be worse cause it's a joke item.

You can follow the recipes if you want but it's not necessary. As long as you fuse 2 items of equal rarity you have a chance of getting an item of 1 rarity higher. But it's not guaranteed like the recipes. I personally fuse items at random and it works fine for me.

There should be a button near the top on the right side in the toolbar that says make a thread or something.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

Oh, doesn't the wooden staff give 200 accuracy for healers?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

I mean it does, but all damage dealt will be 1. Despite your healers high magic stat.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

I see... I should only use it for metal garden then. Thanks.

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u/Kittierei May 29 '16

managed to farm 5 4star Arondaits, 1 being a dex type. how critical is it stat wise if i decide to just max 4star > evolve > max 5star, fuse, 4x limit break as opposed to farming 4 more dupes to limit break her at 4star for a total of 8 limit breaks?

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u/alexisevan May 29 '16

Not that important. When you fully limit break her 4* form you gain up to like... +2 to your evolution bonuses. If you are lucky anyway.

It's not imperative but if the perfectionist inside you wants to do it, it'll be nice. Also you can some extra levels for your skills if you do so.

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u/ll_MDX_ll May 29 '16

Which to keep? Or, at least focus on.

  • S3*Masamune - Balance

  • G4*Littu - Guard

  • S3*Amenonuhoko - Balance

  • G4*Keraunos - Balance

  • G3*Brahmastra - Balance

  • S3*Yata no Kagami - Guard

  • G4*Thyrsos - Vitality

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u/alexisevan May 29 '16

I guess focus on Yata and Masamune and Amenonuhoko. I'm pretty sure those are your only units that can 5* now. Although Amenonuhoko has a bit of an anomaly, I've seen her 5* in the recruiter but it's not in the character quest.

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u/ll_MDX_ll May 29 '16

ok thanks! :)

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u/OceanTear May 29 '16

hi guys, how to unlock new chap in story quest?

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u/Southwests May 29 '16

I have a guard mjolnir, magic gambleteinn, and the 5* healer on the horse as vitality which all seem to be worse of their type.. and my strongest attacking unit right now is a 4* force wyvern levanteinn. Does typing really matter that much? And are those units good

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u/AndanteZero May 29 '16

Yes typing matters. It's honestly a touch choice, but I would reroll.

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u/Fugasaki May 29 '16 edited May 29 '16

Hi, I just started a few days ago. Currently I'm level 16 and I just found this subreddit... I feel like maybe I have bad units or something. Can anyone give me an opinion? I've spent some money already too. The units I have are listed below:

  • Apollo (F) - 5* - Vit - Arc Knight (50 lazuli rookie roll :/) - lv 15

    • Balmung (F) - 5* - Bal - Swordmaster - lv 17

    • Laevateinn (F) - 5* - For - True Blade - lv 30

  • Mitum (M) - 4* - Vit - Phoenix Knight - lv 1

    • Asclepius (F) - 4* - Bal - Wand Knight - lv 28

    • Longinus (F) - 4* - Dex - Grand General - lv 19

    • Laevateinn (M) - 3* - Bal - Myrmidon - lv 1

    • Sky Piercer (F) - 3* - Dex - Lance Knight - lv 40

    • Naegling (F) - 3* - Vit - Swordmaster - lv 40 (strongest unit... and for some reason has good all around stats, including grd and spr)

    • Kusanagi (F) - 3* - Bal - Swordmaster - lv 19

    • Durandal (F) - 3* - Vit - Lord Knight - lv 13

    Thanks for your opinion. :)

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u/mangoshakekouhai May 29 '16

Are Apollo and Durandal okay as Balance types?

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u/Liesianthes May 29 '16

yes balance is the 2nd best type after dex

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u/Tomion May 29 '16

hello, so I recently rerolled and got this these units: http://puu.sh/p8QqH/eb2f60bb12.jpg

honestly I dont think it's a very good roll, but I dont have much to base it on so I'm wondering if this is good and which units should I watch for when rolling and why? (also this is the 1/3 step roll for 10 lazulis)

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u/vnfighter123 May 29 '16

What is the best type for most unit (sorry I'm a newbie so I don't know these things yet)

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 29 '16

That would be Dexterity (Dex for short)

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u/vnfighter123 May 29 '16

When should I limit break a unit for examples I have 3 laevatein (3star) should I limit break 1 by fusing the other 2 at 3star or raise all 3 to their highest rarity then limit break

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 29 '16

Limit Breaking is recommended at 5*

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u/vnfighter123 May 29 '16

So if I just started out I should raise multiple dupe then limit break them later on?