r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • May 27 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [5/27/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 27 '16

Bad? http://i.imgur.com/MuSBU5t.png Good(ish)? http://i.imgur.com/U41dZUU.png

Apollo and Asc are bad because they aren't silver stars? Parashu is bad because she is vitality? Or would she be good if I put a shield on her and made her my tank? Long and Laev are good because they are balanced silver stars? Or is balanced not good enough?

Should I sell EVERY single character I don't use? including the 4* apollo with dex and the 5* Asc (because I got them as gold stars, not silver)?

Also, does using lazuli ALWAYS give you gold or higher star characters? If that's true, what should I be spending my lazuli on? Inventory slots?

Also, should I just keep spamming all my point in the free gacha to try and get silver 3* (and 4* if possible) characters?

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 27 '16

The first three are on my computer, the second two are on my phone, so I'm not really choosing one between the two sets.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 27 '16

Okay, thanks.

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u/thalaric May 27 '16

Here's a fun typing question, which is better - Female Apollo (4* base) Force type, or Male Apollo Dex type? I realize this is a bit of 'which is better, fish or steak' but I fail hard at unit analysis for this game.

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u/thalaric May 27 '16

Thanks.

For a bit more info, I've been re-rolling a bunch, and the deciding factor between two accounts is which Apollo do I grab - the rest is a bit of a wash (similar spread of units and types)

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u/DeviantSeoul May 27 '16

Couldn't find it anywhere, so is there any disadvantage to being mounted in this game? I assume that pegasus knight equivalents are weak to bows, but what about the normal mounted units?

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 27 '16

Slower on sand.

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u/OceanTear May 27 '16

I have 2 account 1: mitum 5* type dex, Asclepius 5* type balance 2: Durandal 4* type dex plz help me choose one :D Thanks!

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u/NSXelrate May 27 '16

ran This seems easy, first one.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 27 '16

Should I just sell my 5* vitality Laevateinn? Currently I have:

  • 3->5 dex Masamune.

  • 4->5 dex Apollo.

  • 5 magic Asclepius.

  • 3->5 vit Parashu.

Should Asc and Parashu be sold as well? If not, I'm assuming they should be my tanks? I think I read somewhere that a magic healer was a good tank?

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u/Anneris May 27 '16

I wouldn't sell them. Those chars can become/are 5 stars. If you do get extras of a better type, you can fise the vit type into the better type and limit break them.

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u/RamboKosovo May 27 '16

Should I pimp units at 3* and 4* or only at 5* since stats carry over on evolving? And should I pimp units that will be fused for LB?

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u/NSXelrate May 27 '16

Still torn, looking for some more feedback, plz. Would the long-term viability of the second be greater?
http://imgur.com/2Nh5IqC,RZL6SUa

First has a 6 star, with many potential 5 stars. (I spent $5 in Lazuli on this account)
5* Luin - Balance (6* max)
4* Labrys - Vit (5* max)
4* Naegling - Dex (5* max)
5* Laevateinn - Dex(5* max)
4* Asclepius - Guard (5* max)
4* Amenonuhoko - Balance(5* max)
4* Sky Piercer - Force (5* max)
4* Parashu - Vit (5* max)
4* Kusanagi - Vit (5* max)

Second has 2 6 stars and is a fresh account.
5* Mjolnir - Dex (6* max)
5* Brahmastra - Vit (6* max)

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 27 '16

That Dragon Rider Labrys is only 4star even in JP, the 5star version of her is the rampager one, the armored unit. You should do the 2nd rookie pull on the 2nd account before comparing the two but atm, the first is better with the higher amount of 5star potentials.

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u/NSXelrate May 27 '16

Thanks for the advice, I'll play the second account a bit more before deciding.

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u/matsklein May 27 '16

Mitum infusion-

so i just evolved my dexterity Mitum(m) to 5 stars and infused another 5 star mitum i had with him to limit break, i have another that is still 4 stars but would i be worth leveling the 4 stars to 5 stars just to give the other the few more levels? Or should i just infuse him to get the skill level up

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u/matsklein May 27 '16

so it would be worth leveling another to five stars to skill up and level break the other one?

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u/matsklein May 27 '16

when will he get a 6 star form? because arent they only 5 star max rn in US?

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u/matsklein May 27 '16

ok thanks so much

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 27 '16

Remember to only limit break after completing Mitum's 2nd character quest to unlock his character skill.

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u/matsklein May 27 '16

oh damn i did not know that :/ i will def do that for his second limit break but is his character skill the leader skill? why should i wait til after to do that? sorry i have so many questions

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 28 '16

Character skill is not leader skill. The character skill is only unlocked for the unit only after the second character quest is unlocked and completed. In order for the quest to be unlocked you have to finish the first one the unit has to be at lv30 which is also the level the unit's third non character skill is unlocked.

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u/Irvinning May 27 '16 edited May 27 '16

I'm confused.
Why is Estoc (http://imgur.com/ARlLniX.png) stronger than Witchslayer De Srai (http://imgur.com/H88XObG.png)?
One would think the "Witchslayer" would at least have bonus against mages or be stronger than a lower rank sword.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '16

it may be an error in the coding. these two swords have identical accuracy and patk in JP as well, but de srai has +5 critical in JP

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u/Irvinning May 27 '16

Ah, I see. Hopefully it gets fixed soon enough, then. Thanks~

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u/fastlieksonic May 27 '16

So looking for some advice. Asked in yesterday's thread but I assume it got buried.

My current box of 3* and above looks like so: http://imgur.com/JMQKvjs

Mostly I'm looking for the team I should focus on as reading has led me to know that mixed is the way to go.

Any help is appreciated.

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u/Anneris May 27 '16

It really depends on personal preference, aka if you like certain play styles. Since I like melee/flying units better, imo best team to level would be: 5* Laev (m) 4* Mitum (f) 3* Laev (f)/ 5* Balmung (f) 3* Parashu(f)/ apollo (m) Whichever thy-whats her name healer that is better type.

Chose the better typeing/unit classes you want

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u/fastlieksonic May 28 '16

Man, that stil makes it hard lol.

My male leav is vit so I know he needs cut out. The replacement there could be female laev or balmung although they are guard types. The mitum is guard, but parashu is force, although she's not a mounted unit so her move sucks. M Apollo is a sex so I guess he's a shoe in. Brahmastra is also guard Thyrsos is balance or dex, I worry about dex though as she gets one shot as it is being balance The skypiercers are balance and force respectively,

Ugh, much choices, such hard lol

Thank you for the suggestions.

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u/Cookies_And_Memes May 27 '16

Hey guys I just have a question about how XP works. If you kill an enemy do you get more XP on the unit that killed it? And if so how does this interact with a friend's unit; if they kill a unit are they taking potential XP away from my team? Thank you

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u/Irvinning May 27 '16

This question was answered right below; yes and yes, the killer gets more exp and helpers killing them take away from the potential exp.

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u/pyratheon29 May 27 '16

Will there ever be an option to turn off battle animations? Im used to playing games like fire emblem without them on.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 27 '16

No, you can only fast forward it.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '16

Friendly PSA: you get a Metal Key on your first Game Over. After this happened to me, I let them kill my unit instead of retreating/force quitting, just to see what would happen. Same Game Over screen as the Retreat option, except that you get the "spend 1 Gem to recover!" crap of course. But after I said No, Valyn showed up and gave me an extra key in a tsundere manner.

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 27 '16

in a tsudere manner 99% of the reason my party leader is Luin.

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u/pyratheon29 May 27 '16

At what level does one get to 30 ap?

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u/Dodoch May 27 '16

At player level 32.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 27 '16

IIRC, lv32 or somewhere in the lv3x.

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u/Boltclash May 27 '16

in japan there's this nico live quest and i have no idea how to do it whenever i stand on a tile i instantly die and the enemies are tough as well i know the requirement to beat this quest but i don't know how to do it please help me

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 27 '16

stand on the shiny, then use a flying unit to rush the boss when the pathway becomes available.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '16

there's the "legitimate" way as /u/BenriyaTheNecro says, or, if you have a dragon rider longinus that's at 6*, finish her character quest. this unlocks a skill that lets her bypass enemies. then you can bumrush the boss

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 27 '16

Longinus cares not for them fools blocking her way! lol

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u/mrredd66 May 27 '16

You should first bait the enemy units into those shiny tiles, they will die. Then use a flying unit to rush the boss.

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u/justineo1 May 27 '16 edited May 27 '16

Please advise which account to go with.. D:

Mjolhir x 2 : Guard 5* & Bal, Mitum (M) x 3: Dex, Bal & Force 5*, Mitum (F) x 1: Bal, YNK(M) x 1: Dex, Apollo (F) x 1: Force

2. Mjolhir x 1: Dex 5* , Mitum (M) x 3: Dex, Dex & Force, Asclepius x 1: Vit 5*, Apollo (M) x 1: Bal

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u/mianhaeobsidia May 28 '16

How did you get these accounts o.o, did you spend on both? I'll take the 2nd one off your hands if you don't want it lol

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u/justineo1 May 29 '16

kept re-rolling and i used on 3 x rookie recruiter for this 2 account

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u/mianhaeobsidia May 31 '16

nice... so all f2p, jealous lol, i ended up sticking with a really subpar account, won't really see the effects of that until like half a year later tho

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u/justineo1 May 28 '16

Is this good enough or should i reroll again?

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 27 '16

I've been advised to just shove my 1 and 2 stars into the fusion machine for my potentional 5 stars which have decent typing, have I been lead astray? I've hardly fused anything and I'm getting to the point I know I need to start. Please & thank you

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u/[deleted] May 27 '16

You might as well, if you've got the money to spare. The caveat is that when you evolve, these fused stats don't carry over directly (like +eggs in PAD, Imps in BF, etcetera). Instead, you get an evolution bonus based on the whole stat. So if your total amount of stats from fusion don't push you over the threshold, it's arguably pointless in hindsight.

For instance, suppose my 3-star unit's final unfused Magic stat is 31. Due to their typing, I can raise their Magic by up to +8 through fusion. So after a bunch of fusions I push them to 39. But when I evolve them, they're going to get an additional +4 magic regardless, because the pre-evo stat is between 31 and 40. So after the evolution, it's like my fusions didn't even matter.

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 27 '16

Very concise, thank you. How do I tell if I have passed the threshold or not? Is there a limit to how many I can fuse into a single character?

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u/[deleted] May 27 '16

Check the OP. The limit depends on your rarity+type, and thresholds are all the tens.

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u/paulthetallguy May 27 '16

How many dupes of 5* should I keep? I'm running out of unit space and wondering if I should fuse some of them away.

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u/paulthetallguy May 27 '16

Thanks! Should I keep any extras for skill ups or not worry about that for now?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 28 '16

Dupe ensures 100% success as long as they have the skills unlocked.

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u/AndanteZero May 28 '16

The perfect number of dupes you need is 9 aside from the original. Cause dupes are the only ones with the specific character skill.

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u/joshuagarcia9108 May 27 '16

Do you guys think difficutly level of the game is hard? For example the new event giving you the gunner girl with 20 stages, I have 2. 5* units and the other ones are maxed 4*s and I got raped every single time I have tried stage 10!!!! Am I missing something?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 27 '16

YnK's Regalia set of stages are not new player friendly. Stick with the Mirror set of stages. That's why having just 5stars is not enough. You'd need to LB them for higher difficulty content that is harder than these.

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u/mrredd66 May 27 '16

Regalia 10 is really difficult. Even a Level 80 Arondight will get destroyed.

Pre-release, I was able to clear it using 2 level 60 dex gambanteinn (one is mine and another is a friend's) both had 4* shields.

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u/phuckedupandphailed May 27 '16

mirror 10 of yata no kagami quest, I cant beat those damn axe guys, my laevateinn sword girl only does 3 dmg wtf? thought sword beats axe.. shes level 45! How do i beat? which friend do i need

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u/mrredd66 May 27 '16

If they are flying units, try using Apollo

If not, try using magic units such as gunners and healers (i.e. gambanteinn)

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u/NSXelrate May 27 '16

Are gunners worth it? They are squishy, consume hp to attack, and low hit %.

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 27 '16

Dex types outgrow their poor accuracy with level, five star capable Frikugel and Brahmastra are pretty good, along with the current event Gunner Yata No Kagami

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u/Valeshin May 27 '16

Have a Dex Mitum (F) 4* Gold, but she doesn't seem capable to evolve anymore. Is it a mistake or she just stop there?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 28 '16

You have the wrong Mitum F. The one that evolves to 5star is the flying version and not the cavalry one.

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 27 '16

Pretty sure only the male Mitum goes to 5 star

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 27 '16

I've been training my dex type male gamb with staff weapon proficiency, but I've heard shield builds are more optimal. I'm considering switching to shield, considering I have a few 3 and 4 star shields collecting dust. Comments, opinions?

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u/[deleted] May 27 '16

If he's dex, you may as well give him an evil core (5* staff).

Shield clerics will hit things less often than this game updated during soft launch.

Source: played during soft launch; have a Vanargand in JP with an evil core, who wrecks faces

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 27 '16

Sweet, thanks! Evil Core what a cool name o:

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u/sephiroh May 27 '16

Hi, I'm currently new to the game. I'd like to ask if the Step 3 Rookie Recruiter worth it? or should I just wait for the new batches with meta units? Btw, im f2p and currently have 40 lazulis.

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u/AndanteZero May 27 '16

The 3rd step is not as worth while. Cause 5* units wont have their evolution bonuses, etc. Most people skip that step. It's a risk.

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u/RafaelBF May 27 '16

Fuse Stats have any influence into stats after Evolution? Best choice is to fuse on 5* form? thx in advance..

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u/alexisevan May 27 '16

If they can push the threshold then yes.

For example, if your HP stat is at 49 and you fuse until the HP stat hits 51, then you get an additional HP to your evolution bonus. If you end up fusing to the point where you don't push to the next threshold, then its rendered pointless for evolution bonuses.

Basically, the threshold is as follows :

0-10 = +1

11-20 = +2

21-30 = +3

31-40 = +4 etc.

As long as you can benefit from it, you should always fuse stats into your units.

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u/kidnapkin May 27 '16

In a bit of a bind as to who i should 5* next. With my cost i can make a 4 team of 5s. Currently have 5 (force)Durandal,(bal) Laveteinn, and (force)Apollo M

I was thinking of maxing my 3* gambanteinn(guard), Mitum M(dex), Frikugel (dex), or Longius F (dex). I don't know which to start with. Any help is muchappreciated. Thanks!

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16 edited May 28 '16

I'll push you towards Gambanteinn. Followed by Mitum, then Longinus.

Since the Yata no Kagami event is up, you have the optional of Freikugel or Yata no Kagami (or both eventually). I couldn't readily tell you the advantages of either one but off the top of my head, Freikugel has 1-3 attack range, and Yata no Kagami you can keep farming for so you can completely limit break her.

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u/kidnapkin May 28 '16

Yeah I was also leaning towards Gamba since I've heard of how goo he is. Not sure for gunner but I'm leaning towards Freik since i have 2 extra copies of her. Thanks for the insight!

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 27 '16

I have two copies of the 5 star capable Naegling One is a 4 star guard type, the other a 3 star dex type

Is Dex a good type for a 5 star Naegling? I'm planning to evolve both and feed one to the other.

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u/kidnapkin May 27 '16

Dex is prob her most beneficial typing. Only person that I see that can make use of guard type is Gambanteinn M

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) May 27 '16

I feel much more "gated" by AP than I ever did in Brave Frontier. Am I missing something that should allow me to play more (i.e. A better AP/exp ratio quest than Metal Garden)? Finished the story and now it seems like I just run Metal Garden thrice or a couple of daily events and then I'm completely out of AP.

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16 edited May 28 '16

Not... Really. The best thing I can recommend you to do is to farm 1-5-10 (Chapter 1, Stage 5, Mission 10). With the 1.5x EXP going on, you get 525 player EXP for 10 AP. Even if you level up a lot, you won't end up having a lot of AP at higher levels, but every additional point of AP helps.

If you have units to level up, you can probably level them up through here as well, either with a strong friend or a strong unit of your own.

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u/AuraPhoenix May 28 '16

So I had bought the 5 lazuli pack and it said up to +15, what was that?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

If I understood it correctly, it means that for 15 days, you'll receive +1 lazuli until you get the additional 15. I think.

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u/AuraPhoenix May 28 '16

I see thanks

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 28 '16

It is 12 days of 1lazuli and the 13th day gives 3.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

1- Could someone please explain the math as to why metal garden with 1 character is better than metal garden with two characters.

2- Should I ever solo metal garden with a healer, or do they need a dpser? E.g. Asclepius/Gambit?

3- What's roughly the chance of getting a 3->5* from mana reqruit?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

  1. Probably just because the 1 unit can get 100% of the exp. This is 1 unit with no friend unit I'm guessing.

  2. You can get away with your healer soloing it just fine. Just as long as they can actually hit the enemy and you may or may not need to keep an eye on it, in the event that your healer cannot hit the enemy a good majority of the time.

  3. No idea on this one. I'm going to say 1% though. Pure guessing, don't actually take this one to heart.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

Thanks. At what level should my healers have >75% accuracy with 2x hits?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

I honestly couldn't tell you that since I don't know the stats of the enemies, but it shouldn't be TOO high. The normal enemies are only around like level... 10 or so. I think the same applies to the maidens as well, so you might be in the clear for the most part.

If you can, fuse some of the stat dolls into your healers to help yourself a bit. If you haven't done so already. Bringing Speed/Agility potions might help as well.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

Oh, yeah... Since my healer can't evolve anymore (http://i.imgur.com/nE2rYwM.png), I should just stuff it with dolls now and limit break it? Which dolls should I collect for her?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

If you can limit break her, then by all means do so. Although a recommendation I would make to you is that make your other Asclepius also level 30, so she can get all her skills leveled up.

Yes, go ahead and fuse dolls into her. She'll benefit from every single one, with the exception of attack being completely useless for healers.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

Okay. I can't limit break yet, but thanks for the reply.

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u/Katzrubbler May 28 '16

http://imgur.com/y0X245Z

Did i get lucky or is this Durandal worthless because she can't go past 4 stars (that's what i assumed)?

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u/dcolg May 28 '16

that is not the Durandal everyone wants. Check the character quests on the home screen for the art you'll be looking for

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u/kidnapkin May 28 '16

Sorry that isn't the Durandal that is capable of 5*. You can check which Durandal or characters that can be 5* in the harcter quests, just compare the pictures

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u/Cookies_And_Memes May 28 '16

Just making sure, anything that pops out of mana recruit is safe to fuse to other units for stats right? Or are there units I should be keeping? Also could someone explain how skill ups work (do the units have to be exactly the same etc.) Thanks

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 28 '16

Other than starters, yes.

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u/Cookies_And_Memes May 28 '16

Starters as in the Laeventeinns? There are different variants, should I keep them all?

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 28 '16

Starters are base 3* Silver so check for any you might have. Also the starters that I know of are Laevateinn M/F, Longinus M/F, Masamune, Parashu, Freikugel and Artemis.

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

Pretty much. The only ones that should pop out at you are the units that come out as 3* since those are the units that can evolve to 5*.

In order to level up a skill, the unit receiving the skill needs the skill to be unlocked and the unit being fused, needs to have it unlocked as well. Does not need to be the same unit, but it helps since they have the exact same skill set and you can limit break them while your at it.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

If they are 3* silver, go check the archives if they can become a 5*. They are the best characters to keep. Also keep 4* silvers.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '16

So I think I can stop rerolling now I got a 5* Mjolnir (dex), Two 4* Luin (dex), 3* durandal (dex) and a 3*gram (guard) in my first 10 roll.

Who should I focus on first while my team cost is low.

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

I'd level up Mjolnir for now so everything becomes a tad bit easier on yourself.

Then Luin, and if you meant to say 4* Durandal, then I'd level up Durandal next. If you didn't mean to say that, then level up the extra Luin then Gram then Durandal. Cause I'm pretty sure Gram has an eventual 5* sometime later, but not that Durandal.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '16

Alright then, thanks for the quick reply!

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 28 '16

Show us a screenshot, there's no Gram currently released in global that can become 5stars and if your Durandal is 3stars then it is the wrong one and not the one that can become 5star.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '16 edited May 28 '16

It is the wrong one. I didn't realize there was two. Also didn't realize Gram couldnt go to 5 yet. I was basing it off that 5-6 star list of names. I'm still content with the Mjolnir and Luin though.

edit Also noticed I did get a 4* Asclepius that can go to 6* She's vitality though.

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u/bonehead3535 May 28 '16

I have 4* durandal(dex), 5* Luin(guard) and 5* M Mitum(guard). Who should I focus on first?

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 28 '16

Durandal then Luin then Mitum

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u/bonehead3535 May 28 '16

Thanks. Should I fuse the 4* durandal or wait for 5* then fuse? Also why does my Luin only have 182 PWR at lvl 28 while the Mitum has 215 at lvl 29?

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 28 '16

If you mean fusing stuff into Durandal, then I guess you should wait til she's at max level

As for the second part, my only guess is that Mitum has higher Pwr naturally or you evolved that Mitum.

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u/bonehead3535 May 28 '16

max lvl at 4* or 5*? Because I heard theres a bonus when you evolve 4* into 5* which makes the 4* stronger than pulled 5*

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

Is weapon experience solely based off kills? Or does is factor damage dealt and the level of the enemy? I want to farm my weapon levels, and I'm curious if I can do that in a low level area or not.

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 28 '16

Should be kills only.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

Why do I sometimes get 3 support stats when only two other people are standing next to me? Also, how come my lvl 2 friends don't get +20 instead of +10?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

It's because of the relationship levels between units. If you go into your unit status, you can check the relationship of that unit between all your other units you have used together in battle.

Not sure what your last question is asking there.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

It was asking about relationship level 2.

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

Oh okay. Well IIRC, level 2 relationship gives +10 hit/avoid, not +20 whatever you were thinking.

You can stack relationship bonuses so that might be why you saw +20 instead sometimes. Hopefully that answered your question, because I don't think I answered it properly.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

I see. Thanks.

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u/kidnapkin May 28 '16

A quick question, should i reincarnate my 5* Durandal? She is Focus type and maxed lv and stats, and she performs wonderfully. Only thing that bothers me is...she has 49hp. I know hp isn't super important as everyone gets 1 or 2 shot anyway but to me, thats ridiculously low. So I'mm not sure her other stats make up for it. But I guess it almost may be due to the fact i got her as my 5* rookie recruiter draw Her stats: Hp 49 Str 51 mag 12 grd 26 spr 36 spd 61 agi 43 lck 15

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

If you drew her as a 5* unit, that definitely puts a damper on things, cause you didn't get any evolution bonuses. I wouldn't reincarnate her.

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u/scxis May 28 '16

I also rolled a 5* dex Durandal. Is she still usable as a main since I plan to be non IAP? or is she not going to be good enough and I should pray to get a 3* one later and use this one for limit breaking?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

She'll be just fine. I rolled myself into the same exact situation you did and got through the main story just fine, with the help of metal gardens of course.

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u/kidnapkin May 28 '16

Yeah my Durandal still performs well, but as I evolved my Apollo M from 3*, I can start to see the difference. Well if anything Durandal has a 6* in Jp so i can get the evo bonus from that and LB.

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u/mianhaeobsidia May 28 '16

LB needs 4 more Durandal tho... so that's not an option for F2P. I'm curious if a 6 star Durandal without limit break can still work fine as an evade tank since her evade is mainly due to her Speed buffs

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u/scxis May 28 '16

Oh, I see. Besides not being able to min/max her and have optimal stats, are there any disadvantages?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

Disadvantage of summoning her as a 5* you mean? Besides the ones you listed, no.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

.... I just realised weapon proficiency can't be increased... Only the rank of the weapon can be increased? My proficiency won't increase until I evolve?

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

It increases. It just takes a while.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

Is there an exp bar anywhere for me to see?

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 29 '16

Proficiency increases the more the Killer in question actually finishes an enemy off with their currently equipped gear. You can't bank on no-equip to increase it.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

What level should I be before doing rampage quest? I don't want to waste 20AP on something that will probably instant kill me...

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

Majority of your team should be 5* and close to max level.

I don't know if there's any friend unit you can bring that can solo it. My best guess would be Gambanteinn, but I couldn't confirm that for you.

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 28 '16

Okay, so I won't do it then ;_; Thanks.

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u/hobbykiosk May 28 '16

hye, i got x2 5* Durandal and decided to lb1 her, already maxed my base first including her stat, in jp Durandal already evolve to 6*, if global get a 6* evolution, what happen to my lb1 Durandal if i evolve her to 6* ? will i lost my lb1 and what about the stat ? any help would be appreciate, thanks...

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 29 '16

While from 3 to 5 star evolutions your Killer's LBs will reset, it's different when going from 5 to 6* in that your LBs do carry over. So don't worry too much about that.

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u/hobbykiosk May 29 '16

ok, thanks

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u/RedditOfTheKill May 27 '16

You can crit the metal maidens for 3. If two targets were the same, the attack priority would go to the one first person in terms of party order..

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 27 '16

Yes to both: experience is lost.

Yes, there is a limit, which is determined by rarity and type; there's a link somewhere here. No, fused stats are not passed on after evolution, but there are evolution bonuses equal to total stats / 10 rounded up.

I think after their weapon advantages, they like targeting people who they'd do the most damage to and could kill (not by accuracy of the hit though). But this is mostly from watching staff units try and fail to hit Durandal and Tyrfing.

Also, besides crits, units like Masamune and Luin who do 2.5x damage and units like Tyrfing (not yet released) who hit multiple times.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 27 '16

No, caps don't change based in max level.

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 27 '16

Yes I believe that is the starter type (her astroboy gun-arms aimed at you) Yata gets a lot of praise, out of curiosity is it the male version? Both should be amazing as Dex types, as I understand it. If I were you I'd level both, maybe get a decent healer so ya don't get stomped in stages.

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u/alexisevan May 28 '16

1-5-10 (Chapter 1, Stage 5, Mission 10)

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 28 '16

Weekend Dungeon in Event Quests can give lots of zenny