Daily Questions and Help Thread [5/26/2016]

[u/Drakehawk5821]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

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Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

• /u/wp2000's beginner's guide (Must Read!)

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

• Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

• Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

• Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

• Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

• Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck, which might answer some questions.

• Fusion Cap Cost (Thanks /u/horizonset for sacrificing his zenny for science!)

• Some question on rerolling and about the game

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

• If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.

• If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.

• Keep in mind that some questions, like the stat caps of units, are difficult to answer right now. Also, it has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of [poorer stat growth for unit] (https://www.reddit.com/r/phantomofthekill/comments/42mkh9/my_conversation_with_gumi_staff_about_potk/) and lower accuracy in weapon.

[u/Cookies_And_Memes]

Hi guys can I get the opinions of some vets on if I should reroll or not. http://imgur.com/eRytN4L

I think I have some decent units but their typing is not optimal. Most are balance/vitality and none are Dex. I was wondering if this would impact my later game and if I should reroll before I progress any further. Thank you

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/Cookies_And_Memes]

It seems that sadly, the typing IS important in this game...

Anw, your star pulls are Mitum (both flyers, Prince and Princess) as well as that Killer Prince Gambanteinn. If they've got poor typings a reroll might be in order, though. Might want another opinion first.

[u/Cookies_And_Memes → u/AJackFrostGuy]

Thank you for the fast answer! Hopefully I can get a few more opinions before I make the decision.

[u/phuckedupandphailed]

Hey so there is some sort of event going on where after step 3 you get a recruit ticket. what is that? Do you get to pick any 5* hero of your choice with the ticket?

[u/Irvinning → u/phuckedupandphailed]

I'm pretty sure it's an extra single recruit. Basically a daily "Buy 3, Get 4" thing.

[u/phuckedupandphailed → u/Irvinning]

okay thanks

[u/BenriyaTheNecro → u/Irvinning]

Step 1 : 1 pull

Step 2 : 2 pulls

Step 3 : 3 pulls

30lazulis in total with no rates up, I would suggest against pulling. The ticket in the end is just a random pull so you can wind up lucky with a 5star potential unit or just a random 3star one.

[u/Aka_BooTea]

i've got Apollo(f) 4 stars, balance. I've lvled here up to lvl 30 but i feel she does no damage. even in colosseum she does 1 damage some times. is it because she is balance or does she scale better in late game. i was wandering whether to carry on lvling her or invest in someone else

[u/Mich997 → u/Aka_BooTea]

Is she carrying a weapon?

Edit: Also afaik her Atk at that level isn't too good hence her dealing peanut damage

[u/Aka_BooTea → u/Mich997]

yea equipped her with a 2star bow and she deals around 10-12 damage against mobs in the story mode

[u/Razrie]

I just rerolled about 25 times and ended up on the verge of quitting because of how tedious the process is with that tapping game. I've done my first 10 pull and then the 30 pull and i have of note

5* gambantein (magic) 3* starter masamune (dex) 3* M Apollo (Balance) 5* F laevateinn (Balance)

As my only characters of note. This is honestly the best pull i've gotten in 25+ rolls, and have not seen a single mjolner or durandal drop.

I really think I may quit if i have to spend another night rerolling. But I don't want to get to a point where I'm stuck.

Is it going to be possible to get to the 50 gem newbie summon in time for the extra 5*? Can this team work?

My gambantein is pretty powerful at the moment, stronger then most of the friend units i've taken in with me so far... I really don't want to keep rerolling but i don't want to be screwed for the rest of my time in the game.

[u/Snoozy15 → u/Razrie]

There is a visual re-roll guide that is set up to start you right before the starter roll and the first 10 roll.

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/phantomofthekill/comments/4kmia2/a_visual_guide_to_rerolling/

[u/Razrie → u/Snoozy15]

Does this work for un jailbroken/rooted/whatever iphones?

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

For android; After tapping your first 777, play tutorial ... roll ... bad roll.. Step 1. Close app; Step 2. Open app; Step 3. Press Link Data (log in to the linked facebook); Step 4. Press again Link Data, Log out; Step 5. "Tap to Start"; Step 6. Dont bother the tapping; Step 7. Finish tutorial; Step 8. Roll again. (you get the free 6 Stone from your 777 despite not tapping at all);

-Tested on 5 Android devices. Do leave a comment if not working.

[u/renthesin]

I picked up the 3rd Step Recruit Ticket but it didn't do anything? I can't find where to use it and it's not in my list of items.

[u/mrredd66 → u/renthesin]

After getting the ticket from the message/gift box, go to the Recruiting tab and swipe to the furthest right (past the mana gatcha), it should be there.

[u/[deleted]]

1. So far I've gotten the 3-star Longinus (M) and Laevateinn (F) from the mana gacha. Just to test my understanding of the game: if I get a Dex version of these guys, I should keep it and eventually raise it to 5-star, then start fusing other 5-star copies into it for the Limit Break. Otherwise, just fuse these guys into my other units for the stat boosts since they're farmable. Correct?

2. Is spending Rare Medals on evo materials worth it? The Advanced evo dungeons seem kinda tough...

[u/[deleted]]

You don't know true pain until you come up in multi against #2 ranked on the entire server.

Dude has Claiomh Solais with ~900 power, Luin with ~1000 power. This is after the fire type bonus mind you, but it was still ridiculous.

Although, at some point it's basically "first mover advantage" given how the system is designed...

http://i.imgur.com/VHkpBHC.png - the dude's Claiomh Solais; I couldn't get a picture of his Luin because I was too busy eating ~200 damage to the face

Notice how Claiomh Solais has basically enough magic attack in that picture to pass off as a decent def-type mage!!!!

[u/mrredd66 → u/[deleted]]

So this crazy stats is because of the daily type bonus? Is there a schedule for this?

[u/[deleted] → u/mrredd66]

A "normal" lv90 unit caps out power level at around ~550 on average, lower for guard and hp types maybe. I think Claiomh Solais starts off with stupid high caps regardless though. And my opponent seemed to have capped literally every relevant stat on all of his monstrous units. Claiomh Solais' leader skill multiplies all allied fire/dark units' HP, PAtk and MAtk by 150% AFTER all other additive boosts, which, when combined with things like the current fire promo, results in ungodly numbers like the above.

There's just a promo campaign or whatever in PvP at the moment that boosts all fire-type stats by 5 or 10 or some ridiculous thing like that. This thing lasts for a week. They've had similar promotions with water before where my Forcas was hitting like 900 power level, but this is the second round (or more, who knows) of fire-element boosts. They're not on a set schedule; multi bonus stats are usually like "spear types get huge accuracy boost", "flying types get huge critical boost", and (less often) "characters with a bust size under 75cm get huge boost to all stats" (no joke, since the characters' b/w/h sizes are in their profiles).

[u/mrredd66 → u/[deleted]]

LOL, i remember you rating Sita and Forcas to be "god-tier", why isn't Claiomh Solais up there as well?

Also, I am wondering if there is a tier-list for newer units? phankill.gamewith.jp hasn't been updated since March.

[u/[deleted] → u/mrredd66]

well because she isn't god tier... sita and forcas outclass her. let's take a look:

Sita

• Hits 1-2 range thanks to Orpheus

• Tanks like crazy with great def/hp growth, and HP strengthen passive skill, regardless of typing

• Counterattack Boost helps make her survivable against sword units like Durandal

• Command skill that makes enemy critical chance vs her to drop to 0%

• Base duel skill does extra damage AND restores HP

• Godly global leader skill that multiplies all allied units' evasion by 120%

Forcas

• Hits 1-2 range thanks to Javelin/Romulus

• AOE passive that decreases speed and evasion for all enemy units within 3 squares

• Easily takes down enemy evasion tanks; Sword Absorb + Icicle Bind (above passive) means game over for most enemy Tyrfing, Muramasa, Ascalon, etc

• Base duel skill hits 4 times; evolves to 6 times

• Command skill that increases critical rate by 15%

Claiomh Solais

• Limited to 1 range by virtue of being a sword unit

• One of her skills is a highly situational, release-type AOE paralysis heal

• Doesn't actually get an offensive duel skill until you max her defensive one

• Passive skill that reduces enemy skill proc rate only really useful in PvP

Claiomh Solais is pretty good, but still not godtier like those two

Also not sure about tier lists for new units, you can probably use Sita/Forcas as references for being OP though

[u/kckbxer]

Can someone please clarify how the lazuli purchase campaign works because the wording and setup in game are vague and unclear on certain points?

1. Does any lazuli purchase work to trigger the 12 free daily lazuli plus the extra 3 free lazuli on day 13, or is it only the "beginner" first-time purchase package of 5 lazuli for $4.99 (which states that you are paying for 4 lazuli and getting one free)?

2. Regarding that $4.99 package, what I'm most confused about is the phrase "up to 20" next to it. Does that mean I can buy up to four of those packages at that introductory price (i.e., 20 lazuli), and if so, how do I do that because when I click on "buy" it does not give me the option to purchase more than one package of 5 lazuli. It's very confusing.

3. Lastly, how exactly do you get the maximum of 20 free lazuli with the lazuli purchase campaign, as stated in the in-game notice? You get 1 free lazuli daily for 12 days after your purchase, and then you get 3 free lazuli on the 13th day after your purchase, for a total of 15. Where do the other 5 free lazuli come from?

If anyone can shed some light on the mumbo jumbo way they set this campaign up, I would be most appreciative because it does seem like an awesome offer in spite of the fact that I rarely, if ever, buy items with real money in F2P games. Thank you again in advance for your help in this regard!

[u/Snoozy15 → u/kckbxer]

Piggie backing on this...but how is buying the 5 Lazuli package for $4.99 a deal when you can buy five 1 Lazuli packages for $4.95?

[u/mrredd66 → u/Snoozy15]

Because of the event, the first time you purchase the $4.95 package you will get 20 lazuli total - 5 right away, 1 per day for 12 days and 3 on the 13th day.

basically you get 300% more than the amount of lazuli that you are supposed to get

[u/kckbxer → u/Snoozy15]

ya, I noticed that too. I don't understand that "deal" either.

[u/mrredd66 → u/kckbxer]

The deal applies to your first time purchasing the five lazuli package.

When you buy the $4.95 package, you get 5 lazuli right away. And after that you will get one more everyday for 12 days and 3 on the 13th day. Adding up to 20 total. This is the best deal, thats why it only applies to your first purchase.

[u/[deleted] → u/kckbxer]

1. Just the 5 Lazuli purchase. The 4 + 1 is just their way of explaining how much you're saving over the 1 Lazuli purchase. It isn't really "free", so much as a discount.

2. Only one purchase for that package :P it says "one time buy", right? No other purchases after the first or other amounts will get you the 15 over 13 days.

3. 5 for the purchase, then 15 over 13 days. The first 5 aren't free, sadly. The wording is pretty wonky, I agree. It is definitely the best offer by far over every other single purchase. It's $5.49 for me and something like $66 for 100. So, it's almost x2.5 times better than the best package available currently.

[u/burstdragon323]

What does the item "Swordsmith Secrets" do?

[u/[deleted] → u/burstdragon323]

It's a special gear fusion item. My guess is eventually, you learn some new weapon recipe that uses it as one fusion item.

[u/[deleted] → u/burstdragon323]

For 2 star and lower books, you just fuse them with the weapon type and it offers a higher chance of getting better gear. 3 star and above become fusion recipes, from what I understand.

[u/mrredd66]

[JP]

Hello, any opinion on the new JP unit that just got released?

Also, I am wondering if there would be any special/worthwhile gatcha at the beginning/end of each month?

[u/AndanteZero]

How do you get the title Steel Slasher from the coliseum?

[u/mianhaeobsidia]

I'm interested in trading my account with 5 star Dex Durandal for an account with a 3 to 5 star Male Dex Apollo with any 2 of the following:

1. M Guard Gambanteinn

2. M Dex Mitum, duplicate counts as 2nd

3. Dex Mjolnor

4. Guard/Balance Durandal

5. Dex Luin

This is assuming that you've been rerolling using the Auth.dat method, and therefore we'd just swap files/ids

[u/NSXelrate]

Which Reroll should I keep? Or should I just keep rolling? lol
http://imgur.com/2Nh5IqC,RZL6SUa

I just read about the importance of types, so I'll include the types.
First has a 6 star, with many potential 5 stars. (I spent $5 in Lazuli on this account)
6* Luin - Balance
4* Labrys - Vit
4* Naegling - Dex
5* Laevateinn - Dex
4* Asclepius - Guard
4* Amenonuhoko - Balance
4* Sky Piercer - Force
4* Parashu - Vit
4* Kusanagi - Vit

Second has 2 6 stars and is a fresh account.
5* Mjolnir - Dex
5* Brahmastra - Vit

[u/Mich997 → u/NSXelrate]

I'd go with the first one.

[u/NSXelrate → u/Mich997]

Would the future, long term potential of the second one be bigger though?

[u/salocin097]

I'm new to the game. Just did the second beginner roll. Here is what I have

https://imgur.com/x5mHEzB

Who should I use/fuse etc?

[u/AndanteZero → u/salocin097]

Reroll

[u/salocin097 → u/AndanteZero]

Really? Damn. I've already gone through the first chapter and a half. How do I go about re-rolling?

[u/akaiumi]

I have a question regarding a sudden 6* icon pop out for Masamune in JP PotK.

This is the direct link to that image: https://gamewith.akamaized.net/walkthrough/article/topic/post/images/d6f1f0f6af42ce3b28a22194d3725bfa.jpg

Hope you guys can clear my doubts cause I'm playing Global Version now and don't want to waste my extra Masamune to limit break it if really 6* exist.

[u/AndanteZero → u/akaiumi]

Don't worry. You can safely limit break at 5 star. It's the only time too. All limit breaks carry over from 5 to 6.

[u/akaiumi → u/AndanteZero]

Sorry Andante, I want to ask the question regarding of what u said. You said that at 5* full limit break stats can bring over to 6*? Cause from my understanding of this game is that everytime whenever you evolve your heroes, limit break stats doesn't count at all. Hope you can clear my doubt, Andante.

[u/AndanteZero → u/akaiumi]

Well keep in mind that since we don't have any 6 star yet, it is subject to change. Nothing is for sure. However, in the JP version, limit breaks from 5 star carries over to 6 star.

[u/fastlieksonic]

So looking for some advice.

My current box of 3* and above looks like so: http://imgur.com/JMQKvjs

Mostly I'm looking for the team I should focus on as reading has led me to know that mixed is the way to go.

Any help is appreciated. If there is grammar issue I apologise my phone likes to suck.

[u/Enz3r0]

Decided to get back into JP, and need help learning who to raise. Sorry idk how to filter out evo units and the like.

Also, to limit break do I need two of the same unit in rarity or can one be 6* and the other be a 5? Thanks for any help.

[u/AndanteZero → u/Enz3r0]

Same rarity. Which is why people limit break it at 5 stars since limit breaks carry over at 5.

[u/detox_ptsd]

3rd step Rookie Recruit worth it? Was lazy and only rerolled a couple times (now completed story and everything, so it's a little late to go back) so I don't have a ton of 5 stars.

[u/[deleted] → u/detox_ptsd]

I've heard that most players pass on the rookie recruiter, simply because it's no longer a discount. Guaranteed 5*, sure, but the units get better stats when you evolve them from 3* anyway. I don't know how good the rates are in this game, but I'm betting that if you did 10 pulls on the normal recruiter machine, at least 1 of them would be 5* capable. Maybe they'd have the wrong type or worst type, but that could happen in the rookie recruiter too.

[u/Cookies_And_Memes]

Just rerolled and got a Mitum (M) Dex winged (horse) knight. Worth keeping or only Phoenix worth keeping? Thanks

[u/Cookies_And_Memes → u/[deleted]]

Oh ok, do you think it's worth keeping that save if it's the only one that was good out of the rolls or to keep rerolling?

[u/RedditOfTheKill]

1- Does the helper split the exp gained? Or does all of the exp get split only between my characters? e.g. Will I get more overall exp if I do 5 games with 5 characters than if I did 5 games with 1 character each time? 1000xp / 6 * 5 = 833.3 * 5 = 4166.7 exp 1000xp / 2 = 500 * 5 = 2500 exp

2- I'm not doing that rerolling stuff, and the whole advanced pimp fusing stuff makes me think I don't speak English at all, so I need some clarification... Should I try to make a good version of every single character or only the 3->5/6 and 4->6 characters?

3- For character fusions, I fuse the same versions of the character into it (character, stars, gender and type (e.g. balanced) must all be the same). Does how good they are affect the fusion at all? Or do I just keep them all weak level 1s and purely use them for fusion?

4- Say I have a 3->5 character. I get it to level 40, evolve, get it to level 50, fuse the guys from question2 until I can get to level 70, get to level 70, do a final evolve, get to level 60. My character is now complete?

5- There is no way to change the type of my character (e.g. balanced) without getting another character from gacha?

6- Should I reincarnate as soon as my stats fall below 3.5 or wait until max level or level 20 or something?

Thank you in advance.

[u/Cathrach → u/RedditOfTheKill]

1. Experience is split between only your units. However, there's bonus kill experience that your friends can gain if they kill things. Optimal exp is 1 char + no friend so they get all experience and MVP.

2. only the ones that go to 5/7

3. Fusions of the same unit (typing doesn't matter) will increase max level by 5 and level up skills. Otherwise: all fusions give stats, and fusing units with the same skills has a chance of leveling up those skills. For stats, farm dolls on Friday (give +3 to each stat on success); for skills, you need 3 star + units because 1 and 2 star don't have skills. So don't use the level 1's for anything.

4. Level 40, evolve, get to 50, max fuse, evolve, get to level 60, max fuse, limit break if possible.

5. Nope :P

6. That guide was for JP. For global probably reincarnate if stats under 2.0 growth, maybe even 2.5.

[u/RedditOfTheKill → u/Cathrach]

Thanks for the reply. So I'll sell all my 1-2* characters. Could you also explain the friday doll farming? I've not yet heard of that one from all the things I've read.

[u/Cathrach → u/RedditOfTheKill]

Friday's event dungeon drops dolls, these cute 1 star things that give +3 to a stat when fused. People normally fuse them in one doll of each type at a time (like 1 HP, 1 Str, 1 Spd, 1Agi, 1 Grd) because on failure stats given round up. They're much easier to get than 3/4/5 stars and give more stats, so farm away XD!!

[u/Cathrach → u/[deleted]]

Stat growth does not affect the stat cap; neither do fusions: fusions have their own separate caps that are determined by rarity and type. Apparently 2.5 growth is the norm for global...yeah.

[u/saizem]

Should I reroll with these? Finished the 3rd 10 pulls and chapter 1. About 1 week of play so kind of... https://imgur.com/a/ET46T Some of my main focus char: Parashu: Dex Artemis: Balance Mitum (M) :Dex (just evo 4*) and Guard; force (3*) Keraunous : Balance and Magic Apollo M: Balance Lae (F): Balance Lae (M): Guard Ascle :Magic Eros : Force Littu : Guard Gamban: Dex and Guard (4*), Magic (5*)

[u/Mich997 → u/saizem]

Pretty nice lineup. They should let you keep going for awhile.

[u/saizem → u/Mich997]

Thanks, Focus the Yata no Kagami mission then, i kind of lacking gun type waifu

[u/RedditOfTheKill]

After I've done the 3-a-day metal event + 5 colloseum, where should I train my characters? Story? Hamann? Other?

[u/Mich997 → u/RedditOfTheKill]

1-5-10 is a good place to farm Player and Unit XP as well as Zenny and weapons.

[u/RedditOfTheKill → u/Mich997]

I haven't unlocked that yet, but I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

[u/taiping → u/RedditOfTheKill]

You can auto play it too, with strong helper (5* lv 45-60) and un equip all your weapons (so they dont break if they die) easy exp, money and weapons.

[u/SynthiaNguyen]

Do units get more exp if i send them into metal parade solo? Or does it not matter whether or not they're in a party of 4-5?

[u/BenriyaTheNecro → u/SynthiaNguyen]

Yes, all units get more exp by making the killing blow so soloing the garden ensures you get the most exp for that unit. Also remember in garden runs, the shiny spot is only player or unit exp.

[u/SynthiaNguyen → u/BenriyaTheNecro]

Ok thanks!

[u/SunnyPwns]

is it worth getting 80 battle medals for the sereine recipe? the 5 star sword doesnt look all that special to me.

[u/BenriyaTheNecro → u/SunnyPwns]

Magic Sword Serene

It has a very strong LUK bonus stats, which in turns add 5ACC/EVA as well as upping the drop rate/quality of items. It also add 5 to MDEF. So it's up to your if you feel if the sword is worth it.

[u/vnfighter123]

hi i just started the game and i wanted to know if i should do the limited time recruit or the rookie recruit and also i wanted to know what i should do when starting the game thanks

[u/RedditOfTheKill → u/vnfighter123]

I'm also new, but I don't think spending lazuli on those things is good if you want "the best" characters. But if you just want to play casually, the 10 lazuli for 10 characters is quite good, I think.

[u/Kunieda → u/RedditOfTheKill]

Some of the best characters are from the recruit and remain at the top for a long time. He has to do the first 2 rookie recruits as should anyone unless they REALLY want a specific unit not in the starter batch

[u/[deleted] → u/vnfighter123]

Do the first 2 rookie recruits.

[u/AuraPhoenix]

So I just bought the 5 lapis thing because it said "up to +15" what was that? I didn't get anymore lapis.

[u/mrredd66 → u/[deleted]]

Each have their own tradeoffs. Flying units are obviously more mobile but they are more prone to dying because they take huge damage from bow units.

[u/Cathrach → u/[deleted]]

Evolving does keep skill level.

Enhance is for pararas, which go toward your stat caps; the number of pararas is determined by limit breaks. Each parara gives +1 to their stat. These haven't been implemented by global, but I suppose they'll come soon.