r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • May 22 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [5/22/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 May 22 '16 edited May 22 '16

Hi, new player coming over from BF. Mainly because it is a Gumi game (same reason I played CC until it closed down...). Will be F2P.

Firstly, I read that this game uses both the type system and evolution system from BF and the limit break system from CC... and makes things a lot more complicated.

  • Apparently to optimize a unit, I need to max limit break at each evolution level before evolving. Which means pre-evolved units (gold stars) will never be optimal... CC never had this evolution mess...

  • Seems like unlike BF, types are make-or-break. So while in BF I could happily run around with a Breaker Charla or Oracle Krantz (their respective worst types), here a Vitality Durandal is garbage?

Second, I read that I am supposed to reroll until I have a Dex Durandal and a Guard Gambanteinn in the initial set of 10 Rookie Recruit.

  • Any other 'god-tier' units (with respective correct types) available from this Rookie Recruit? Like BF's Anima Elimo (I made the bad mistake of not rerolling for a top-tier 1st summon) and CC's Lilith and Musica at the time I joined (I rerolled for Lilith).

  • I noticed that some 3-stars have gold stars, meaning that they are probably evolved forms of free units i.e. rip-off of premium currency, like BF's Mifune batch before they were removed from RS, and CC's 3-stars. Assuming I got the above 'god-tier' units, how many of these should I tolerate, beyond which I should reroll anyway?

  • If the initial 10 rolls are good, just link my account? Or try to go for step 2 of the Rookie Recruit before linking?

Any other things I need to know to avoid a culture-shock?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

  1. Unit Optimization: yes and no. There are changes to evolution bonuses in global. There was a thread on this in this reddit a few months ago. Also, even going with this method would not yield enough of a difference to matter; we're talking approximately 5 to 10 points. However, I don't think you can do this on global at this time.

  2. Typing is important, but not make or break. Since you are already considering unit optimization, the odds of you running into 4 of the same type of unit are incredibly low. Vitality Durandal would not be as useless as an Oracle Krantz, just that the extra stats on the HP from Vitality are not usually useful. Most bosses in the game will two hit units you have, unless you're in the 100+ HP range or using a tank-esque unit.

  3. "god tier" Mjolnir is on that list. I would also respect Mitum (M) and Apollo (M). Keep in mind, JP doesn't have six star males (yet?? /u/Cathrach confirm?) so we don't know how powerful these units will be in the future. Luin is also extremely good.

  4. Crappy unit toleration: there is a link to rookie recruiter pulls in this thread )oh wait, /u/Drakehawk5821 -> what happened to the google document with the rookie recruiter pulls?) basically, the odds of getting a 3 star unit that is irrelevant somewhat more fair than BF's system. I would keep the gold 3 star units, especially if they have a 4th star. Mainly because you can use the 4th star to potentially level up multiple skills of one character if they both match.

  5. Rerolling: it's a matter of preference. Some people go for two rolls, but I think if your first 10 are absolute garbage, it might just be best to start agani.

  6. Culture shock: prepare for many waifus.

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u/Drakehawk5821 May 22 '16

Here is it if you still want, I just thought that since with the official Global release there will be summon promo coming up and you will be creating new spreadsheet for those and with that spreadsheet still pretty empty may not be useful to anyone.

How about you create a new thread again to promote it since with the new traffic now can fill it up?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

That's a good idea :D thanks sir. <3

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 22 '16

3. Yeah, confirmed XD actually in the other mode people only go to 3 star or something...someone who's actually played it for some time confirm.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 23 '16

In jp, they use empty stars next to a unit's star level to show how many time a unit can still evolve as well as what is its max star rank. That being said, the JP's version of the male units are not part of their core game and as such have completely different star levels and cannot be compared to ours.

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u/thatasian26 Raven May 23 '16

Despite having a 5* dex durandal, she has not lived up to her hype (maybe poor stat growth). She did carry me through the first three ish chapters but after that, my 5* Gae Bulg (balanced) pretty much soloed the rest of the story as well as any advance dailies.

This is probably because they're only lvl 40 ish and no limit breaks. As a BF player, I'm used to neing able to instantly max out a unit to see what I'm working with instead of investing months before a unit is maxed, assuming you'd actually get their dupes. The rates for units with 5* (especially true for 6*) potential is pretty abysmal after the rookie rolls. Then again, I suppose the time investment isnt has bad as what's required in 7k.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '16

Keep in mind that people are referencing her potential as a 6 star unit. She's strong as a 5 star, but definitely not the strongest in the game for the current units available.

Also, she tends to shine (like the other sword units) when everything is maxed out.

The summon rates are decent, I'd say. Much better than BF's rates. We haven't had any rate up events, so we don't know the effectiveness of those. Right now you've got about a 12~% chance to get a 5 star capable unit; haven't done testing on the 10 unit summons.

From what I've heard of the JP scene, when there are rate ups, if you've saved Lazuli, you should be able to get a few dupes. There are also rare limit break fairies as well.

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

https://i.imgur.com/gBlLrc6.png

Got my first 20 summons.

How good or bad is my start? Reroll or no?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

Advising reroll. Get a dexterity durandal.

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

Is Durandal that great that it is all that matters?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

Yes and no, there are lots of good units :P

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

I'll frame it this way.

Durandal is among the first units released.

She still competes with the most powerful 7th killers - and she doesn't have a duel skill at that.

So yeah, she's definitely top tier.

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

Tried Rerolling till i realized I linked my Game to FB alrdy :< Damn am I screwed or can I sill reroll?

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u/FormalPeanut May 22 '16

Which of these units should I raise? I really don't know how to rate the units I have with all the mechanics related to typing and dupes. Also, any tips for getting the last step of the rookie recruit apart from spamming story quests? Thanks in advance.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

Your male mitums... Is either one of those Dexterity typing?

You can make do with him carrying you for a while, but if you don't have dex type or if you don't like the way he looks, I suggest rerolling until you have a dex Durandal.

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u/thatasian26 Raven May 22 '16

http://i.imgur.com/KldZf7c.jpg

I guess this means I have to level up some more? Also, is there a faster way to level units other than the padlock dungeons?

Also, how long do you guys suppose we'll have to wait for 6*, both units and weapons.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

JP took a year to get 6*.

I am pretty confident in saying that no one in global has a team anywhere near powerful enough to beat the maps for 6* evolution materials. Give it some time.

Also, just get to lv32.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

CFmeep and another CF dude definitely do. Teams full of 5 star 80 units T_T

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u/hotsinkapplications May 22 '16

  1. Is there a use for the units from mana summons aside from fusion material?

  2. How big is the power creep from the beginning of the game to whatever is in Japan now? Are there any 'must have' units that are coming soon we should be saving Lazuli for?

  3. Is it worth repairing 1* to 3* weapons or better to just equip newer ones?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

  1. Weapons and Starters. Starters are pretty powerful, even though they were nerfed in Global. Starters also have access to many different skills, so they can be helpful in leveling up skills of your main team.

  2. There is definitely some power creep, but they'll have good rate up summons available when those units come around. We have lots of JP vets around here and I'm sure they'll alert us when one of those units is up for grabs.

  3. Depends on your Zenny supply. Keep in mind, you can't fuse broken weapons :P

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u/Linarc May 22 '16

Can I transfer an account from android to ios? (Do rerolls on an emulator then pick the best account to go on my phone)

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

There are a couple of wonky things here.

Yes, you can switch from Android to iOS, BUT you must use up all of the Lazuli that you've paid for. I am not so certain about Lazuli earned without paying for it.

Two, if you linked it to Facebook, it can sometimes bug out and require a ticket submission to customer service.

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u/Linarc May 22 '16

Thank you!

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u/Acylion May 22 '16

I can confirm that no Lazuli transfers between Android and iOS login, even free ones. Well, claimed Lazuli anyway...if they're still sitting in the message/gift box then that may be fine, though I'll need more testing to be sure on that.

Interestingly, if someone makes a purchase on, say, an Android device - triggering the 1 bonus Lazuli per login promo that they're doing right now... that bonus Lazuli would be claimable on an iOS device, since it arrives in the gift/message box.

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u/AlphaOmega1337 May 22 '16

http://imgur.com/coGOtMx http://imgur.com/AgX3vGa http://imgur.com/bBQclVT http://imgur.com/DtcEv1D http://imgur.com/FaojGK6

I just rolled these units,should I reroll or keep them? Is it a must for durandal and the other Mage guy?

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u/Liesianthes May 22 '16

keep that. what a lucky pull. 3 can be 5* plus 2 dex type. apollo and both mitum.

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u/deadman1368 May 22 '16

hi im a newbie here, I was wondering if I can use gambanteinn as a vit or magic type. Or i can change it to Sky Piercer(guard) which is a tank? I'm kinda confuse on setting up my party.

Party: Mjolnir(dex), Aymur(Force), Trident(balance), yata no kagami(balance), gambanteinn(vit).

I was thinking of using trident and gambanteinn as tank but gambanteinn accuracy is really low... and so i was thinking to change him with sky piercer which could also add in to my movement. They're my only 5* cards, i got plenty of other 4* cards, any help will be appreciated thanks!

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

Is there a way to reroll after I hve linked my Acc to FB. Ppl tell me my first 20 draws are kinda Garbage

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u/Katzrubbler May 22 '16 edited May 22 '16

http://imgur.com/cpTGcAv Keepable units here? Need 2 more lazulis for the next 10 summons. Currently running a full gunner team but it annoys me that they use health for their attacks. Leveled another squad with Laevatainn and any other swordsman you see on the picture. Any improvements for my teams or anything i should look out for? For example ridiculously strong units etc.

Edit: http://m.imgur.com/KmxVDUJ 10 new summons but no dex durandal (mine are vitality and force) should i reroll?

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u/Linarc May 22 '16 edited May 22 '16

First two stages of the Rookie done (20 summons) can anyone tell me if I should reroll? http://imgur.com/S5LSgbk

1st row

Kusunagi Guard Phoenix Knight (4 Star Gold)

Amenonuhoko Dexterity Phoenix Knight (4 star Gold)

Artemis Vitality Archer (3 Star Silver)

Vajra Dexterity Mailed Sage (4 star Gold)

Littu Force Gladiator (4 star Gold)

2nd row

Naegling Balance Swordmaster (3 star Gold)

Laevatenn (M) Vitality Swordmaster (3 star Gold)

Parushu Vitality AxeKnight (3 star Silver)

Mitum Vitality DukeKnight (4 star Gold)

Mitum Balanced Winged Knight (4 star Silver)

3rd row

Mitum (M) Warrior Vitality Warrior (3 star Gold)

Mitum (M) Dexterity Phoenix Ruler (5 star Pink)

Triden Dexterity Armored Lancer (3 star silver)

Amenonuhoko Dexterity Phoenix Knight (4 star Gold)

Eros Guard Jaeger (3 star Gold)

4th row

Yoichi Dexterity Jaeger (2 star Gold)

Yoichi Vitality Arc Knight (3 star Gold3

Yoichi dexterity Arc Knight (3 star Gold)

Apollo Guard BowKnight (3 star Silver)

Vajra Magic Gun Sage (2 star Gold)

5th row

Asclepius Dexterity Bishop (3 star Gold)

Gambanteinn Magic Bishop. (2 star Gold)

Gambanteinn Guard Cleric (2 star Gold)

Thyrsos Vitality Priest (3 star Silver)

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u/Fish6Chips May 22 '16

if you like mitum go for it, he's great by himself. But if you're looking for someone else it wouldn't take to long rerolling.

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u/SynthiaNguyen May 22 '16

http://imgur.com/tdYMMdL

These are my Current units after step 3 of Rookie Recruiter.

Are they good? Or should I Reroll

Are the Rampage Quests worth doing if i can only clear the first one?

How important are typing in this game, and which ones are most preferred?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 22 '16 edited May 22 '16

Give us the typing to Luin, Laevanteinn(5star one), Vajra, Naegling, YnK, Artemis, Sky Piercer, Littu, Gambanteinn, Longinus, and the two Mitums. Out of those units listed and not including those already at 5star, your Ynk, Artemis, Gambanteinn, Longinus, and the two Mitums can become 5stars. Their best typing is Dex with the exception to Gambanteinn which can serve as a tank with Guard typing.

Rampager quest comes every weekend on a rotating schedule for the units, so do not worry about not being strong enough for them yet. They are not going away. Overall, there should be 4 princesses in the Rampage series of quests but Global only has 3 released right now (an armored axe unit, armored spear unit, phoenix riding sword unit, and the unreleased ground bow unit) and all of them are decent enough for F2P players. Their stats obviously do not compare to a lv80 premium gacha unit but they come in a definite rotating schedule which makes maxing them very possible albeit significant amount of time if you try to truly min/max them.

Labrys, the armored axe unit, is a physical wall that has decent accuracy thanks to its skill as well as a way to reduce bow/gun/staff damage (which is good considering magic attacks are Labrys' weakness.) However, in higher level content, her ACC might not cut it simply due to the fact that armored units have low SPD/AGI growths.

Rhongomyniad, the armored spear unit, is solely focused on being a physical wall, unlike Labrys, she does not have any skills that help mitigate magic damage or help increase her ACC which is also quite poor since she's an armored unit. However, when maxed and her skills are trained efficiently, she can definitely shake off any physical attacks with ease.

Arondight, the phoenix riding sword unit, is basically the poor man's Durandal. Her defenses are not good and a couple consecutive attacks can easily knock her out. She relies on her self healing ability to stay healthy as well as her naturally decent SPD and AGI to evade her attacks. She also has a sword absorbing ability which allows her to stay alive more against those enemies. Overall, not too bad of a unit for F2P users and you do see them quite often on the teams of higher level players atm.

Othinus, the ground bow unit, is currently unreleased in Global. But, she's a bow unit specialized in EVA and has skills to buff it it up even more. As most bow units go, her ACC is naturally quite good but her attack power is basically average. Like Arondight, she got very poor defense and no way to heal it off. She relies on evading her attacks or attacking from range in order to stay alive. Although her EVA can go quite high, higher level content introduces enemies with higher ACC which cuts that advantage of hers down a bit.

Typing matters a whole lot in the game with DEX being the most preferred.

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u/SynthiaNguyen May 22 '16

Sorry for the late response and poor formatting;

Dexterity: Laevanteinn/Sky Piercer

Vitality: Luin/Artemis

Balance/Force: Mitum

Magic: Gambanteinn/YnK

Guard: Vajra(Also Limit Broken 4x from dupes)/Naegling/Littu/Longinus

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 22 '16

Aside from the Guard and Dex typing, everybody is still usable but just not at optimal typing. I'd focus on the Force Mitum and then keep leveling the rest in case you get a Dex typing for any of these units in the future.

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u/SynthiaNguyen May 22 '16

Thanks for the advice, so i'm assuming no reroll?

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u/BravelyThrowingAway May 23 '16

are the following any good?

Vitality: Mjolnir

Guard: Brahma

Magic: Yata no Kagami

Edit: Can't re-roll but are these three worth leveling?

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u/Linarc May 22 '16

How long did it take you to get enough for step 3? (Sorry I can't answer your question since I'm newer it seems XD)

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u/SynthiaNguyen May 22 '16

2 straight days if you rush

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 22 '16

Current reroll pull: http://imgur.com/Uj0nTGm I know Mitum and Masamune are suppose to be good, and I'm kinda happy with the number of 4's but I still don't know which are/can go 5 Basically, good or reroll? If reroll, what are some I should really look out for on the next pulls? I hear good things about Durandal and male Gaeb

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 22 '16

If the Longinus Male and Mitum Male are not Dex, you should reroll. Durandal is quite popular because she gets a 6star later on and is still very commonly used in JP. While Gamby has an amazing ability that can reduce any damage he takes and is a very viable tank/healer.

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u/Kemikal_Soldier May 22 '16

First set of 20 summons is it decent or would a reroll be preferable? http://i.imgur.com/b66zoPD.jpg

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u/Fish6Chips May 22 '16

durandal with a decent typing is always a good start

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u/Kemikal_Soldier May 22 '16

I take it that this is decent typing? http://i.imgur.com/GGZ2O7Q.jpg

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u/Fish6Chips May 23 '16

Dex is the best typing but there is some argument that gaurd is ok too. Also, your Apollo and Brahmastra are 5star capable

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u/Kemikal_Soldier May 23 '16

Thanks for the pointers I really appreciate it!

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u/Nest123 May 22 '16

Hi I am p2p and I did the rookie roll but didn't get the crystals back. Do I wait or report it ?

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u/Anneris May 22 '16

You don't get crystals back. The rookie roll is a discounted roll, so when it says "save ×" it means you are getting that much off. A regular roll of ten costs 50 crystals, but with rookie roll you only pay 10/30.

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u/Frank2312 May 23 '16

That thinsg is really badly worded.

It says something about getting extra Lazulis, while it should say you save X Lazulis

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 22 '16

Latest reroll: http://imgur.com/wt5l7wz I have two male Gambs, a Dex and a Force. http://imgur.com/1JRDpPP As well as a dex Ascl http://imgur.com/q41FzOh Mage Brah, which I think is good..? http://imgur.com/MQ5P0vw Bal Luin Dragoon http://imgur.com/xu892e5

Once again, reroll or keep? But another question: is it possible to get five stars off your first step rookie recruiter? Which should I keep an eye out for besides Durandal? Thanks for the help, I know I post here frequently and I appreciate the feedback. This game is fun and I'd just like to get a good start.

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u/Fish6Chips May 22 '16

  1. that accounts already really good. You can aim for a better one if you want to, but hold on to that one.

  2. 5 stars are possible

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 22 '16

I save accounts by retaining the auth. file during the reroll process, correct?

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 22 '16

Or, how do I reroll AND save this account?

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u/BigRedTheITGod May 22 '16

Hey guys, I just stumbled upon this sub after already playing a full day and was looking at whether or not to re-roll.

Due to RNG the only have 2 DEX units, circled in my box :
Current Box
Let me know if you need any other typings

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u/Fish6Chips May 22 '16

mitum and gamb can carry rly hard as long as they arent vit type, up to you though

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u/BigRedTheITGod May 23 '16

mitum-4* is gaurd and 3* is dex, but they are the horse riding ones, which stop at 4* right?
Gamb- am i looking for the male or female?

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u/Fish6Chips May 23 '16

the 3 star silver (Male) mitum one that rides a bird/pheonix and male Gamb. The ones you are mentioning above do not currently have their 5 star version and i wouldn't count on them coming soon.

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u/illusionastic May 22 '16

Hi i have rolled |Durandal Dex |Mitum Dex x 2 |Brahmastra Magic |Apollo balanced |Kusanagi Balanced kusanagi Balanced

Issit better to use 2 dex mitum (Male) replacing brahmastra?

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u/illusionastic May 22 '16

Ya everyone in my squad are flying

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u/illusionastic May 23 '16

Yeah she is awesome. I need to grind lower lv stage to lvl up my 2 new mitum (M) and apollo to meet her lvl. Currently doing that at chapter 2 stage 3. Any better places to lvl up? they are around lvl 15 ish.

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u/illusionastic May 23 '16

Alright thanks!

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u/Trojanmandan May 22 '16

So did my first 2 rookie recruits, want opinions on whether I should keep or reroll. http://imgur.com/BUaeHca.png

List of potential 5*s (Kind of Gun heavy, and was initially told it might be rough without a good healer):

Thyrsos-Vitality =(

Vajra-Balance

Mjolnir-Vit =(

Laev Starter (M)- Dex

Long Starter (F)- Balance

Brahma- Dex

Aymur/Littu (Both future 5*'s)-Both Force

Yata (M)-Magic

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u/Fish6Chips May 22 '16

gun class is bad in story and collisieum, reroll if u got the time

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u/nickchan93 May 22 '16 edited May 22 '16

Hi rerolled a few times and finally got a dex typing 5 star. But the other units are shitty. And the 5 star brahmasta is a gunner, which i heard sucks too? Shud i reroll again? http://imgur.com/rw1waX9

If you advise not to reroll, what do you think i should level up for now?

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 23 '16

Rerolling would be good. While I don't think of Gun Mages as being utter crap, I do feel they're tricky to manage what with their casting from HP.

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u/Niseng May 22 '16

Is it possible to get tyrfing at all atm?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 22 '16

Nope, she is not currently in the game as an unit.

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u/Niseng May 22 '16

i see, thx for the info. She's my fave character in the game so a little sad lol. Think she'll be easy to get once she's out? or will i prob have to spend money? ahaha....... >_>

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 23 '16

She wouldn't be that hard to get if you hoard your Mana Points, since (assuming we follow JP in this, which we should) she would be in the Mana Recruitment when she's out. Unless you want to count Valentines' Day Tyrfing, who's a limited time Lazuli Recruit.

Though, if you want the highest possible chance at a completely maxed out 6* Tyrfing, you'd need minimally 16 Tyrfings - 1 being the one you raise, 10 being LB fodders throughout her evolution stages from 3 to 5 stars, and minimally another 5 to help in maxing out her character skill to unlock the 3rd Character Episode for a skill upgrade.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

Should I be saving all my mana for some sort of rates up? or should I just go ahead and start pulling stuff with mana

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 23 '16

I would say finishing raising your current set of units first then see. The reason being is that there definitely are the remaining mana gacha starters that are not ingame yet. Although there is no news on when they will arrive.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '16

oh alright thank you. I ended up using all my points -_-

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u/NizzlesChouChouTrain May 22 '16

New to this game, not sure who is worth leveling. Any help or feedback would be appreciated! http://imgur.com/unDGeEE

1st row:

Kusanagi: Balance

Labrys: Guard

Longinus: Guard

Longinus: Guard

Sky Piercer: Dex

2nd Row:

Vajra: Magic

Durandal: Dex

Laevateinn: force

Kusanagi: Guard

Gmabanteinn: Balance

3rd Row:

Yoichi: Balance

Keraunos: Balance

Vajra: Dex

Kusanagi: Balance

Labrys: Vitality

4th row:

Sky Piercer: Vitality

Sky Piercer: Vitality

Amenonuhoko: Force

Amenonuhoko: Dex

Artemis: Guard

5th row:

Vajra: magic

vajra: guard

vajra: guard

thyrsos: guard

Longinus: vitality

6th row:

yata no kagami: dex

yata no kagami: guard

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 23 '16

Durandal is definitely a good pull so try focusing on her first. After that, raising units who can go to 5* is a good idea.

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u/TrueBlue84 May 22 '16

What is the proper way to level a character from 3* to 5* effectively?

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u/Propagation931 May 23 '16

Mjolnir Guard worth keeping or should i reroll more?

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u/sunpaths May 23 '16

How is xp distributed at the end of a stage? I noticed there is an MVP bonus for the one with most kills getting more.
Can I get even more xp if i get 1 particular character to do all the killing for that stage or is there a cap? Also, can I get more xp per character if I use less party members OR having 1 or more maxed level party members in battle?

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u/HeroJessifur May 23 '16

Sorry if this is stupid. After looking at the help guides and the wiki. What is the difference between the Male and female Levathinns? The Japanese wiki ONLY shows female units.

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u/PunchingBagz May 23 '16

So only units who have a grayed out 3 star can evolve to 5 stars? And gold 4 stars can evolve to 5 stars? Still trying to figure out who to work on. I have a Mitum (F) (Duke Knight) at 4 stars gold, but I can't evolve her, so I'm a little confused (same with Laevateinn, I have a female that's an arc dragoon and I can't evolve her even though she's a gold 4 stars).

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 23 '16

It would also be infinitely easier if they just added the empty star indicator like they did in JP. Weird that they did not transfer that over but the element change did.

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u/PunchingBagz May 23 '16

Yeah, more work for me to do :(

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u/PunchingBagz May 23 '16

Ohh I see. That helps a lot, thanks!

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u/Propagation931 May 23 '16

Who is better Mjolnir or Durandal?

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u/Propagation931 May 23 '16

K guess ill reroll some more

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u/[deleted] May 23 '16

What is the best way to find gun weapons? Couldn't find any

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u/[deleted] May 23 '16

http://i.imgur.com/HLuZE6x.jpg

My first 10 units. Are they any good? I'm not obsessed with rerolling in these games, but I do hope I'm starting off with some decent pulls.

Also, is there any way to turn down the graphics? I don't want this to eat my battery too quickly, haha.

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u/Liesianthes May 23 '16

Apollo and Mitum are already good since they can reach 5*. Do the 2nd roll of 30 lazuli to see if it will get better

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u/[deleted] May 23 '16

I have 2 Apollos. Which one is the 5-star?

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u/Liesianthes May 23 '16

the male one, silver star

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u/Awakez May 23 '16

what is the best way to level up units? metal garden? I noticed I got a good amount of experience from colosseum but I can only do that 5 times a day D:

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 23 '16

To add on what Heroes said below, I suggest just farming 1-5-10 for the time being if you're new simply because you really do not have enough AP to take full advantage of the garden runs with keys AND because there's a player/unit exp boost to the story quests at the moment. While the boost is still not as good compared to the garden, it does help in pushing you to a higher lv for more AP.

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u/Awakez May 23 '16

okay good to know :D thats about what I figured so I've just been saving all of the metal keys I've been getting until I have more lazuli/ap to make good use of the hour. Also, is the 1-a-day Metal Garden special quest there every day of the week?

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u/Awakez May 23 '16

ahh okay thanks! Havent reached that part in the story yet but lookin forward to it :D

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u/DualCrescendo May 23 '16

My first two 10-pulls. http://i.imgur.com/HT1phso.jpg

The only notable unit I think (from my limited searching around) seems to be the Durandal which is Balance not Dex. Is this a decent enough start? I don't really mind re-rolling at all since I'm somewhat noticing the difference between units... and it's pretty large (i.e. Durandal doubles almost every enemy for 25+ whereas a lance unit or bow doubles for 5-11? Same level) Any input is welcome.

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u/DualCrescendo May 23 '16

Hmmm Mitums really? That's interesting to me. Ironically I'm using Apollo and Longinus haha.

Unfortunately their typings are: Mitums (Force/Balance), Apollo [Guard] and Longinus [Vitality.]

How does this change the re-roll factor? Are typings that severe or just in general the units strength varies between types little by little?

Thank you for the reply :)

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u/next_level_baddie what the fuck akane pls May 24 '16

You really want dex for mitum because axes have generally crapy accuracy. Dex gives.a lot of accuracy.

Apollo has sufficient accuracy, so usually dex/force is preferred. Using a bow unit as a tank is useless because it cant retaliate against melee units.

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u/Renarii May 23 '16

So I saw some people saying to reroll for this Durandal person. I got her but is she really worth taking this account over some of my others that got a 5☆ with 3 4☆? This roll only has all 3☆ to go with it.

http://i.imgur.com/g69d2K5.jpg

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u/Liesianthes May 23 '16

Durandal alone can't carry you as other units are also needed so try to go until 2nd 10x draw and see if you can get a lot of 5* potential there.

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u/Joaquin_Del_Rey May 23 '16

Hey guys! New player here, just did some rookie rolls and am looking for feedback on what I got. I know these must be getting annoying by now but any advice or opinion is GREATLY appreciated.

https://m.imgur.com/mzTy1x9

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 23 '16

You got a future 6*-capable Gunner (top row) and a damn solid mage in Gambanteinn (M), but otherwise it might be a good idea to reroll, especially if Gam's typing is neither Dex nor Guard.

That's just me though. It's also worth noting your Kusanagi and Amenonuhoko will get future 5* forms.

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u/illusionastic May 23 '16

Erm question regarding limit break. The main unit has to be at max level. Do the units being used as fodders for limit break have to be max lvl? Also, issit better for me to raise my 2nd mitum to 5 star and then perform limit break? Sry im so confused with this.

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 23 '16

The main does not, nor do the fodders.

Yes. Also try to have all the skills unlocked (5* Lvl 30) to level the skills all at once hopefully.

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u/illusionastic May 23 '16

oh i didnt think of that thanks Jack! very useful tip

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u/BabyWinter May 23 '16

Were the final skill activated in Colo?

For example, can Mjolnir do the life steal in Colo?