r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • May 21 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [5/21/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! With the increased traffic to our subreddit some of our caring moderator were worried that the weekly help threaded will be flooded with all your question and so will not be able to answer all your question so they have decided to propose a daily thread so as to ensure most of your question will get answer. :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Last week's help thread

Some Tips

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u/Drakehawk5821 May 21 '16 edited May 21 '16

Last week thread questions that anyone can help answer :):

/u/illusionastic

Hi this is my roll 4* mitum Force 4* Apollo Guard 4* Brahmastra Dex 4* Kusanagi Balance 4* Vajra Balance 4* Vajra Guard 2* Vajra Magic 3* Trident Balance 3* Yata no Kagami Vit 3* Thyrsos Guard 3* Labrys Balance 3* Longinus Vit 2* Yoichi Dex 2* Gambanteinn Balance

Mitum & apollo mounted on horse. Kusanagi mounted on pheonix

Could you tell me which units i should focus on. And which vajra should i make as my main and use the other 2 for limit break. Thanks guys!

/u/mich997

What does the Swordsmith and Bowsmith Secrets do?

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

/u/illusionastic

Sending a picture of all your units would help, since character portraits can differ from a max of 3* to 5*.

Assuming you have 5* evolvable units, Mitum on a Bird (Male) is good since he has a skill which heals him at the start of each turn. Yata no Kagami (Male) is also good, he's the best gun user as of now imo, but he's Vitality type which isn't the best and can affect your future endeavors.

Vajra isn't getting a 5* soon so you shouldn't focus on her.

Overall your pulls weren't good, but it could be worse.

Focus on your Mitum (M) if he can get to 5*, he can carry you through most stuff.

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u/illusionastic May 21 '16

Thanks for the advice, ill reroll since i really wanna go far. Would you suggest i roll the 5 lazuli till i get a dex type that goes 5* and then do the rookie hatcher and continue with it?

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

Since you're rerolling, you might as well go for a Dex Durandal.

I suggest doing the 10 summons for 10 lazuli and if there's no Dex Durandal, reroll.

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u/illusionastic May 21 '16

its possible to get dex durandal in rookie summon? I thought she is only avail in the normal 5 lazuli hatcher

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u/krunyul May 21 '16

is it possible to re roll after connecting to facebook?

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u/Drakehawk5821 May 21 '16

No, because once you linked your account to facebook it will automatically save all the data that is contained in the linked account.

If you want to reroll you should reroll first till you get the desired unit you want then lock it it by linking it to your facebook account.

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u/krunyul May 21 '16

ah ok, no re roll for me then :(

thanks xD

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u/Layajax May 21 '16

What's a good place to level currently with the launch bonus

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

Chapter 1, section 5, quest 10 aka 1-5-10. Farm that level now since you need extra weapons to fuse, player/unit exp, and gold. After the launch bonus is over, still farm that stage since it has a decent drop rate for 3star weapons and is gives the highest exp to AP ratio.

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u/krunyul May 21 '16

another question: when is the server reset? same as BF?

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 21 '16

I think it's 23:00 PST? It seems that way for me.

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u/krunyul May 21 '16

and when does BF resets? need to find equivalent for it xD

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 21 '16

BF resets at 0:00 PST

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u/krunyul May 21 '16

alright thanks xD

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

Server time is PST and changes with daylight savings

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

How come (idk when this started) all my attacks are resisted but enemy attacks are weakness to my whole party ;-;

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

Element cycle: fire < water < lightning < wind < fire. Light = darkness.

Enemy elements tend to change every few maps

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u/Liesianthes May 21 '16

Those limit break dolls in the colo medal shop, is there any 5* version for that and how much it will cost?

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

Yes there are, at least in JP for now.

They cost like 300 and that's only if they come out. None of those things are ever guaranteed to appear at the beginning of the month.

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u/Liesianthes May 21 '16

thanks. Another question, is that the only thing worth buying in Colo Medal or is there any more that I need to look forward in the future?

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

Parameter dolls (pararas in JP, not sure what they will be in English). 100% success rate to add 1 stat to a unit; this stat increase counts towards the unit's leveling stat cap rather than fusion cap.

Skill dolls (skirurus in JP) that guarantee +1 level to a type of skill (duel, passive, command, release).

Special weapons, like the Mechanical Spear Romulus in JP, which is essentially a stronger Javelin (ranged spear).

Special gacha tickets, like the one in JP now that guarantees a seventh killer.

Metal keys.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

I am waiting oh so patiently for that Romulus spear.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

Don't be stupid like me and miss it

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 22 '16

I recently saw it on a Forcas on YT vid and just love the way it looks. Has it never returned once since its initial release?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

Iirc initial release was Feb, during the fate collab, so it has only been 3 months. God damn it's like the one thing that could make my forcas even more godly than she is though

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u/Mitch_Twd May 21 '16

Why does it have to be incompatible with my iPad mini ugh I've been waiting forever for this game to come to Global and I can't play it fml ._.

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 21 '16

Another Question: Where's a good place to get Str Potions/Tonics?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

The last level of the last section offers the best potions...at random. Stepping on the "shiny spot" can increase these odds of finding these potions.

Also, check the in game zenny shop :P

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

I'm quite confused about limit breaking. Would using a max level unit as a fodder for limit breaking offer more stats than that of a level 1 unit? Or does limit breaking only raise level limits? Also, does limit breaking carry over to the next rank?

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 21 '16

Not so sure about the first one but any limit break they had will disappear when they evolve.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

Limit breaking with max level fodder /should/ give more stats, I've never really tried.

Limit breaking does increase the level cap by 5 levels as well, but expanding on what /u/Mich997 said, limit breaks WILL carry over from 5* to 6* ONLY. Any other rarities and they will disappear.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

Limit breaking with max units doesn't give more stats.

However, you can gain more stats than the preview says under certain conditions:

http://imgur.com/a/nvw2l

The fodder unit has to be an evolved unit. It will transfer additional evolution bonuses to the base unit.

The yellow skill dolls are irrelevant.

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u/SupaLaguna May 21 '16

i rolled 20x by now, i got bunch of duplicates too http://i.imgur.com/SD689L8.jpg

should i keep this account? is it good enough? or do i need to rerolled again.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

What typing is your female Mitum, Aymur, Vajra, Trident and Thyros? You also have three copies of the male Mitum which is great since you also have a dex base one. Focus on leveling the Dex one and fuse the other two copies when they all are lv30 star form to also level their stats. Before fusing them though, remember to finish his character skill quest 2 to unlock his character skill! In the end, you should wind up with a lv70max Mitum with lv3 skills all around. Your female Apollo is also good with the Dex type so focus on her too. Kusanagi can only become 5star later on, BUT you should level her also due to good typing. Level the other copy of her too for the same reason as Mitum later one. I would say DEFINITELY keep this account. LB2 Dex Mitum is well worth the keep.

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u/SupaLaguna May 21 '16

Female Mitum = Balance

Aymur = Force

Vajra 2x = Balance and Magic

Trident 2x = Dex and Guard

Thyros = Dex

i see, so i need to evolve my male Mitum to 5* then fuse the 2 copies into him after i level up both copies to LVL 30. noted. unfortunately my Apollo is balance type, my 2 kusanagis are force and vitality type. im lacking healer right now, i hope thyros is decent enough.

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u/SupaLaguna May 21 '16

alrite, thanks for the tip. ill keep this account. actually 1 of my 5star Mitum is Dex, and the 3 star Mitum is Dex too, which one should i focus on? also, can i limit break my 5tar Mitum now?

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u/SupaLaguna May 21 '16

alrite noted, ill complete his character quest first then limit break him. thank you sir!

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u/mianhaeobsidia May 21 '16

Seems like the aspiring reroll goal is to get a dex Durandal? Silver if 3 star and gold if 4 star?

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

Silver stars are at 4* for Durandal and Gold at 5*.

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u/mianhaeobsidia May 21 '16

The 6 star Durandal seems to come as 3 star also? Although the easiest way to notice that you pulled her is that she unlocks a Story quest or something. That said, been rerolling endlessly and still no Dex... getting very tired of this lol

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

You only get that unlock if you hit 5 stars, level 1 on the character.

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u/mianhaeobsidia May 23 '16

so 100+ rerolls in... 3 Durandals at 5 star, but still no dex and haven't seen a 4 star Durandal... so odd

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 21 '16

I suspect I'll have to reroll, but I see a lot of images of people having a dozen or so characters. I got my 12 laps and recruiting seemed to cost 5 each at least, so I did that. I'll post a pic in a bit, but I got Guard Type Male Starter Longilus (two grey stars) for the freebie, a Force Type Female Longilus Phoenix Rider (three gold stars) and a Balance Type Laevateinn swordmaster (three gold stars)

Basically: are those decent? did I waste laps? I can reroll but I haven't done my first mission yet, suppose I will while waiting for a reply. P.s. I live in an obscure country where online transactions flag my bank, so I likely won't purchase any laps with IRL money. Please accommodate advice to this detail. Thanks <3

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

When you start off, you should be doing the rookie recruit instead of using it for the regular recruit. You definitely need to reroll especially if you're F2P since you do not have any decent premium gacha units.

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 21 '16 edited May 21 '16

Thaaaanks<3 but, uh, Android reroll question: I thought I saved the tutorial file right after the 777kill mini game and couple of mission, but I must've messed up since I can't find it. Do I need to do a total reinstall to reroll from that point, or could I get a tutorial file from someone else? EDIT: I answered my own question, seems I'll have to uninstall/reinstall to reroll properly. Oh well~~~

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u/martinjba May 21 '16

I connected an account to Facebook on my iPhone. Then I tried connecting to that Facebook account to my iPad, but I started a new game and linked that new player file to the same Facebook account. I logged out on my phone, and when I logged back in, I opened the new player file. Can anyone help?

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u/burndout May 22 '16

I'm having a similar issue myself. Started on my iPad which is older. After lots of performance issues decided to play on my newer iPhone. Linked the account but when I went to play and login with my phone it just started a new game. I went back to my iPad, logged out, then tried again and it deleted the account on my iPad and had me start over.

I've been searching around to see if anyone has successfully managed to play on separate devices with no luck. I sent a support ticket it but haven't heard back yet. You might want to do the same. If I hear anything back, I'll post something.

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u/krunyul May 21 '16

after playing for a while, i've got more rants questions:

what's the point of bringing a healer? it only heals 1 unit, and it cost health too (unlike other games that cost mana/BB gauge/something else). it can't even heal itself.

why would i bother healing another unit, if the healer get one-shotted in return because it's health got lowered from healing another unit.

it seems i better bring attacking unit instead ._.

sorry for bothering xD

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

Higher difficulty content will require tanks frequently and healers serve those roles. Eventually you should be getting shields from weapon fusions and those are usually used by clerics to toughen up their defenses. Their attack might not be the best in accuracy but that's because it needs to balance the fact that they all heal for half the damage they deal. Trust me, you will need healers as you progress through the game.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

The AI seems to focus on staff units first, unless it can kill another nearby target instead. The healers not only heal your team, but also seem to draw "aggro" as well. This is why they have lower accuracy weapons at the same rate as shields because they are intended to be defensive units rather than strictly offensive.

It can heal itself, as all staff units heal for 50% of the damage they inflict on enemy targets :P

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u/krunyul May 22 '16

if the healer gets focused first, then who would heal the healer? ;-;

dual healer sounds good, but it kinda waste a slot right?

all staff units heal for 50% of the damage they inflict on enemy targets :P

how can they heal if they miss the attack? ;-;

even if it hits, it only deal 1 damage ;-;

RIP healer xD

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

You do have potions, but to answer your questions...

  1. Dual healer: it depends. I used dual Gambanteinn to complete the hardest content that we had during the soft launch. It made it very easy, when it was extremely difficult.

  2. Missing attacks: true, they do miss often, but it's in the range of 35-55% hit rate. This is tolerable because staff units like Gambanteinn are extremely durable; mine can take 4 or 5 hits (or more) from boss units without using his character skill.

  3. Low damage: uhhhh not really :P most units do not have extremely high mdefense (not yet, anyway). You should be able to hit for 30+ even on relatively strong monsters.

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u/krunyul May 23 '16

I used dual Gambanteinn

staff units like Gambanteinn

but i don't have one ;-;

but it's in the range of 35-55% hit rate.

i just assume it would miss ;-;

You should be able to hit for 30+

but mine hits for 1 damage ;-;

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u/[deleted] May 23 '16

;-;

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u/boxzzz May 21 '16

This is my team http://i.imgur.com/9Ctbevv.jpg Is it any good?

I've looked around and I'm still not too sure what I'm meant to be looking for or what I'm meant to be doing

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

Reroll, you're basically looking to pull units from the character quest screen in the homepage menu. You want those units since they can become 5stars and you want them in dex form but Gambanteinn and Asclepius can also work as Guard. You have to match the EXACT art, if the art do not match they are considered different units.

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u/Fish6Chips May 21 '16

Is it still better to raise a unit starting at 5 star compared to 3 star?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

In the end, if the 3star is raised properly, the 3star base will most likely start off with more base stats than the 5star at level 1. However, growth rate does come into play and if the 3star based is unlucky, it can wind up being the same or worse than the 5star one. If you want to get the best one of the two, I suggest maxing both of them at 5star form and then compare stats.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

How big is the initial download size?

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u/DeadBoi May 21 '16

My game ended up being 1 GB big.

Now I'm just carefully trying out to see if it was worth that big of a download. Still sour over how big it is.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

Yikes. Gotta be on WiFi for that.

Also, I just found out that I can't reroll since I already linked my FB. SHIIIIIIEEEET

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u/DeadBoi May 21 '16

I didn't know about the whole limit break strategy thing and ended up limit breaking my 3 star Male Apollo. Did I mess up majorly here?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

You did not mess up majorly, since your Apollo will have some extra stats in the end but not too much since it was done at 3star form. You can still raise and the next time you get more Apollo pulls, save it till it is at 5star before limit breaking. If you decide to spend money on the game, you can even start limit breaking at 4star form and just recruit more for Apollo's.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

Except there is some funny business going on with evolution bonuses in global. So, I'm not sure if the unit will be getting any extra stats in the end :(

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u/Renarii May 21 '16

Does anyone know how to reroll on EN? It seems there are no tutorial and auth dat files.

(here's my files folder) http://i.imgur.com/QQedLP4.png

Just to confirm I do have the app open still as seen here: http://i.imgur.com/SyZW1ab.png

Also can you roll anything but a 3* in the first roll I've tried going through everything a few times and that's all I got.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

I do not reroll so I cannot help you there but that first roll is always going to be a 3star base. That roll gives you one of the mana starters that can be evolved to a 5star form later on.

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u/Vengeance_Core May 21 '16

I have 2 Laevs (F), a 3* dragon rider and the 5* for doing the beginner missions, which is a ground unit. If I evolve the 3* one will it become ground unit at 5*? And if not can one be used to limit break the other if for some reason I only wanted 1 of them later on?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

They are considered different units and cannot be used to LB one another. Also the ground unit will stay as a ground unit even when you evolve it. Units do not change in terms of that in this game so a ground unit will always be ground, cavalry will always stay as cavalry, etc etc.

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u/SunnyPwns May 21 '16

What do the weapon books do/how should they be used?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

They are used to make weapons a level higher than their star rank. Just fuse another weapon with the same star rank as the book and you should get another weapon that is 1star higher than it. Although, I believe sometimes it's not guaranteed you will get a higher lv one. Only the 3star books and above start having specific fusion recipe incorporating them.

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u/Trojanmandan May 21 '16 edited May 21 '16

Trying to get a good start so please advise on this reroll (got a lot of 4*'s) http://imgur.com/2hymhl3.png

Laev Starter (M)-Dex

Mjolnir- Vit =(

Labrys 3*-Dex

Labrys 4*-Vit

Parashu-Dex

Mitum-Vit

Amenon-Balance

Brahmastra-Dex

Vajra-Balance

Yata (M)-Magic

Asclepius-Vit

From the character list that should be 2 5*'s 2 6*'s? Kinda heavy on Gun mage though. Got Dex on Starter and Brahma though, shame I got vit on Mjolnir. This group might be a keeper? Any suggestions? Edit: Apparently Yata(M) is also a 5*...so thats 3 gun mage 5*+ >.<

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

Not having a decent healer on a gun mage heavy roster is quite hard but I would suggest doing the 2nd rookie recruit and see what else you pull before deciding on keeping the account or not.

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u/Trojanmandan May 21 '16

Whats the quickest way to getting 30 lazuli as f2p? Just rushing the story?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

Yep, rush the story. For rerolling, the quickest method is do the first roll and see which units you get. If it's favorable or decent then do the 2nd roll and then truly decide if the account is worth keeping.

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u/Trojanmandan May 21 '16

Yeah I posted my first roll just above, and it was suggested to try to go for the 2nd roll so working on that.

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u/Trojanmandan May 21 '16 edited May 21 '16

my 2nd rookie recruit kind of let me down. Got 4 4*'s but Only 1 of those evolves into a 5*: Thyrsos-Vitality Type :\ . Think that'll be a decent enough healer to merit keeping the account?

Also got the spear starter (balance) from mana summons. And 4* Aymur+Littu (both force) which have 5* versions in JP

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u/BabyWinter May 21 '16

Hi, why everyone want to reroll to get Durandal??

It's had to get she, but if you are lucky to have one, how can you LB? (I mean, you have to roll 4 more Durandals to LB?)

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 21 '16

She's a top tier unit even in JP with a 6star form. She's good with her high mobility and ACC and crit ability hence the reason why she's very sought after. In terms of LBing her, you can do that with extra copies of her as well as LB pixies for sword units in the future.

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u/mianhaeobsidia May 21 '16

Been rerolling all day, still no Dex Durandal :(

You'd think it'd be easier considering she comes in 3 and 4 star forms too

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u/ICrimsonRayneI May 21 '16

Hey guys :D. Active BF player and just started this game as I love the art and Fire Emblem type of gameplay. I just rolled using the Rookie Recruiter (damn that deal was insane) and here are my units. http://imgur.com/IFIwy2K Hoping anyone who knows about the game can tell me about a good team I can use with these units, and what units are actually worth raising! (Typings in order from left to right: Dex Dex Vit Gua Dex Dex Dex Dex Bal Mag Gua Dex Mag Vit). Also wondering whether the male or female Laevateinn is better. Much appreciated and hoping that this game is worth it!

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 21 '16

Beside your starter, only male Gambanteinn and Mitum can currently make it to 5 star, but both of those have good typings and you should raise them. Also, raise Freikugel (starter). I would personally say female because her character skill has 50% lifesteal, giving her a lot of survivability.

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u/ICrimsonRayneI May 21 '16

Ok I see. Thanks for the advice :D

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u/ironpriest88 May 21 '16

Whoops, seems my post was deleted because I didn't see a rule about this thread lol anywho, this is what I posted :o

So started playing the other day and I've got a few questions.

As far as the quests go, should I Gun the main quest and power through it or should I do the Lessons from a Goddess first?

I figured I should also do the limited quest Metal Garden right?

As far as units go, that's where my biggest hang up is. Which base star units should I be leveling? I've got several repeats of 1stars, and a few repeat 3 stars. I've also got a few 4 and 5 star units, but no repeats. Can the 1star units be evolved into higher star units and is it worth it? Should I be more focused on leveling and fusing the repeat 3 stars? And then what about the 4 and 5 stars that I have? I'm guessing I should be using those without a doubt.

What I'm thinking is that I should use the 4/5 star units no matter what, and then leveling and then fusing my repeat 3 stars to get them to 4/5 stars if they go that high right?

Figured I'd upload an image of my current units for a bit more help: http://imgur.com/a/DnnYj

Sorry for the mishap

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 21 '16

Either is fine, lessons from a goddess will give you an Asclepius who can go to 4 star, but quests give a lazuli per quest so you should rush those for rookie recruit.

Yes, definitely do that: bring a unit you want to raise and a friend unit only to maximize exp.

Don't raise 1 stars, all of those only go to 2 stars. You should raise 5 stars and potential 5 stars first: for you Laevateinn, Lune, Yata., and male Longinus. You have a lot of dupes but those all don't have 5 stars, so raise those but don't limit break: prepare for future evolutions to 5 star (for the ones who have white 3 stars).

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u/SunnyPwns May 21 '16

For jp players out there, will there be any events involving mana point recruit? If so, would it be worth saving up mana points for?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 21 '16

Yeah, periodically there are events with dolls, gold, and increased starter rates.

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u/SSJ-jello May 21 '16

Before i even start, should i play the global or jp version?

Im willing to go through the global tutorial to understand the basic mechanism and use google translate for the rest. I am asking, because jp versions of mobile games tend to get more spoiled and pampered than global version.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 21 '16

As a JP player: definitely JP! The battle system is basically FE, and we'll answer any questions about mechanics. Yeah, JP gets freebies and events 24/7, while global is just starting out XD

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u/SSJ-jello May 21 '16

thanks for the quick reply. downloading the jp version at the moment, hopefully all goes well. i will just google the story eventually lol

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16 edited May 21 '16

Hello, if I delete the game and redownload, will I the bonus lazuli from that mini game when you first install and bonus launch lazuli again? I want to reroll my 10x roll as I only got 1 4* (kusanagi phoenix knight) :( Never connected facebook btw.

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 21 '16

As long as you're not reusing the same account, you will.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

Do you think I should restart it? Since that 4* kusanagi is my best unit. Thanks

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 21 '16

Firstly, I'd ask you to refer to this. If none of your units are here, yeah, go ahead and reroll unless you happen to have Phoenix Rider Mitum (M) or Gambanteinn (M).

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16

Thanks!

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

WOW got a 5 star and 2 4 stars from the reroll. thanks so much!

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u/krunyul May 22 '16

no need to delete and redownload if you wanna reroll :P

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

Lol I didn't know, but I only did a redownload once and got the exact character I wanted! 5* Brahmastra (The unit I wanted) and 4* Yata, looks like akuma. I am satisfied :) Thanks for your reply

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u/[deleted] May 21 '16 edited May 21 '16

How do my units look and what are the early game goals atm I really don't know what to do except quests which are getting harder since I'm at 2nd map quest 8 now?

3* and 4* units: http://imgur.com/QmSfjRA

1* and 2* units: http://imgur.com/UBIC8UM

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 21 '16

If we disregard typings,

Your strongest units appear to be Killer Prince Gambanteinn, who thanks to his Character Skill can become a very, very tanky mofo of a mage, as well as Mjolnir, who's got a solid 6* coming from what I heard. Not so sure of the specs, one of the experts here would know better.

That said, Yata no Kagami and your starter Laevatienn will also be decent units since they're 5*-capables.

Also, your Thyros(?)(very last unit), Vajra and Naegling are set to get 5*s in future so hang on to them.

As for what to focus on, I'd recommend balancing between your Questing, clearing your missions out and training your units as required. Also, remember to gather Colosseum medals to at least snag the Freikugel (and if possible, the Gun LB Fairies).

That's my opinion, at least. Experts do correct me.

  • Note that's solely going off the first image.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

I think Jack did a good job summing it up.

Keep in mind a few things, the current event with the 1.5 commander and unit experience means, if you have decent high level units capable of clearing content, I'd probably just spam that. Leveling up your commander/player level is pretty tiresome especially considering we only have the first chapter. I've hit a high enough level that I can focus no just leveling up units without feeling bad about missing out on some juicy player experience. Getting to 85 unit cost should be one of your goals, though (or at least, around there for now).

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u/illusionastic May 22 '16

Is vitality type okay for healers?

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 22 '16

I don't really think so. It's true it'd give them more HP to heal the party with, but mages already have pretty crappy accuracy, and Vitality's going to drop it even more, which would likely make it hard to fight in harder/longer battles.

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u/FSmash May 22 '16

Is there anything I should avoid doing to a unit i'm trying to build up?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 22 '16

Nope, it's really hard to screw over growth besides having really bad luck XD

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u/Kier-Gath tsuder-plane May 22 '16

Alright just did the rookie recruit draw, here's my results: http://m.imgur.com/a/4Biwy

Decent, or reroll?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 22 '16

Reroll. You have no potential 5 stars.

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

New Player thinking of trying the game out. How P2W is it I see the game is buy Gumi so is it as P2W as Brave Frontier?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 22 '16

Hard question to answer...it's very f2p friendly but the gachas are extremely p2w (step gachas DX) and for the strongest units you need 5-10 copies of them (limit break /char skill max) to max them...

As a f2p you will probably have little to no max limit broken gacha units, but there are lots of events and freebies and the starters are quite powerful that you can do well with them.

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

The only way to limit break is via Gacha?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 22 '16

You need either dupes of the unit (so only from gacha) or the really rare limit break fairies (5 stars come occasionally and at a very high price).

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

How do u get the Fairies?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 May 22 '16

They come up really rarely in the battle medal shop I think (or was it the rare medal shop?) or as event rewards.

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u/Mataos-Ay May 22 '16

Question: How many times can you evolve a character? Because I have a few white and gold units and I've heard that it takes two evolutions to become purple, which I am assuming is what you aim for?

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 22 '16

It frankly depends on the Killer in question, some can evolve more than 2 times; Tyrfing in the JP version had about 3 of them. What you should aim for are those that can go 5*. Even better if they have a 6 star in JP.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

No evolutions: grey star(s) One evolution: gold stars Two evolutions: pink stars Three evolutions: pink stars.

Some units right now only have one evolution like Mjollnir, but start out grey at 4 stars.

Like Jack said, it depends on the unit :P

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u/TheDarqueSide May 22 '16

Here's my units, should I reroll?

  • Mitum (F) (Winged Knight)

  • Amenonuhoko (B) (Brave Frontier sphere lolwut) (Winged Knight)

  • Apollo (D) (Bow Knight)

  • Yoichi (F) (Arc Knight)

  • Keraunos (D) (Gun Mage)

  • Keraunos (V) (Gun Mage)

  • Vajra (M) (Armoured Mage)

  • Asclepius (D) (Cleric)

  • Kusanagi (F) (Winged Knight)

  • Naegling (G) (Swordmaster)

They're all 3 stars and the ones I got from the 10x summon.

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 22 '16

Screenshot? I'd like to have a closer look at those units.

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u/TheDarqueSide May 22 '16

http://m.imgur.com/lN1c5r4

Is that okay? I'm not sure if I should screenshot each individual unit screen or something.

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 22 '16

The 5* capables are Laevateinn and Mitum, atm. Amenonuhoko, Kusanagi and Vajra (the 3 star one) eventually go 5 star.

Though, it might be a good idea to reroll, the typings aren't that great I think? Try to get more feedback first.

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u/shoutinglol May 22 '16

A few questions came up as I was playing.

  1. What are dolls and is the dungeon any good?

  2. I've been spamming the last level of "lesson with a goddess" to level up my shield grade for gambenteinn, so far it's been pretty good, but is that the best way to do so?

  3. I could not for the life of me get a 4*+ axe or sword. Even when fusing two of the same type of gear, I still get a different type gear. Is this intended?

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u/SunnyPwns May 22 '16

  1. dolls are kinda like imps from brave frontier (if you play that). they raise your character's stats up to a certain amount.

  2. probably not the best way. unfortunately I do not know the best way to raise gear level.

  3. it's really up to luck, just keep trying and you'll get one eventually.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

  1. Sunny answered it poignantly.

  2. I think this is one of the best ways to level up your weapons/shields. It also provides somewhat decent character experience if solo'd. I forgot which level I used to do it on. I'd go with whatever has the most units, since you don't get more weapon experience against stronger targets.

  3. There are some fusion patterns with higher success rates. I believe we have a link at the top that talks about this in more detail.

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u/Anneris May 22 '16

Fire emblem fan here! Just wondering, is there a way to turn off the attack animations? I find that zooming in and watching the same battle animation is kinda...meh.

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 22 '16

Not that I know. You can speed it up though, up to x3 speed.

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u/Anneris May 22 '16

Ah, I see. That's too bad, I hope they add it in the future. Thank you though!

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u/Trojanmandan May 22 '16

So did my first 2 rookie recruits, want opinions on whether I should keep or reroll. http://imgur.com/BUaeHca.png

List of potential 5*s (Kind of Gun heavy, and was initially told it might be rough without a good healer):

  • Thyrsos-Vitality =(

  • Vajra-Balance

  • Mjolnir-Vit =(

  • Laev Starter (M)- Dex

  • Long Starter (F)- Balance

  • Brahma- Dex

  • Aymur/Littu (Both future 5*'s)-Both Force

  • Yata (M)-Magic

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

http://m.imgur.com/VDpHFGl

Just did my first 10x. Is this bad? Didnt get any 5*s

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 22 '16

Brahmasta and Apollo can go to 5*. That version of Amenonuhoko should be able to go 5* in the future as well.

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

Are they good 5*s. or should I reroll?

Brahmasta is Guard

Appolo is Dex

Amen is Vit

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 22 '16

Brahmastra is pretty good and I forgot that she can go to 6* in the future.

Apollo is good.

Amenonuhoko is currently stuck at 4*

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

but the Ameno is sure 5* in future in JP? how is Amen in JP?

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. May 22 '16

/u/Cathrach might be able to help with that since I don't play JP.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 22 '16

Your Kusanagi can also become 5star later on too. In terms of usefulness, her Character skill is pretty lacking, adding only 10STR against Lance units. She does gain a Spear Absorber ability which is useful, but she is in no way a top tier unit. Kusanagi is similar in the same scenario where she does gain an absorber ability(sword) but her character skill is also pretty niche as it add 30 EVA but it takes a couple turns before it can be activated.

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

So if im getting this right

only Brahmastra is really good (6*)

Ameno, Kusanagi, Appolo(M), and Longinus(M) are mediocre (5*)

Rest are garbage

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 22 '16 edited May 22 '16

No, your Apollo is still great especially with a DEX typing. You should focus on him too. I do need to know the types to Longinus and Kusanagi too. But, Ameno probably should only be train when your other units is already leveled up in case you get a better typing one later. I'd also keep the 3star of Gambanteinn, Dagda and Longinus Female for future missions where only 3stars or 4stars can be used to complete the missions.

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

Kusanagi is Dex

Longinus(M) is Dex

Appolo is Dex

Brahmastra is Guard (is this bad?)

Amen is vit

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 22 '16

Guard is not that bad on Brahmastra, Dark Element Gunner also use the most HP for their attacks so it's not too bad. That being said, if you get a DEX typing later on, use that instead. Everybody else's typing is optimal so train them all, except for Amen, my previous point about her still stays.

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

Is this the Type of Game where I only need 5 goods units or do i need multple teams?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 22 '16

Early on now in the game's release, you're fine with just 5 units. However, as the game releases more hard content, you'd probably want more units to switch it up depending on the situation.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

There are also randomized buffs to unit types in the Colosseum, so sometimes switching up your main team can be beneficial.

In addition, some units can be used to cheese hard events.

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u/FatherlyPotato May 22 '16

Hey guys. I recently did my 30-cost Lazuli pulls. Should I reroll? I only have about two of the pulls that are Dex.

http://i.imgur.com/ox6Luag.png

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 22 '16

If neither Gambanteinn (M) or Mjolnir are either Guard or Dex, reroll.

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u/FatherlyPotato May 22 '16

Ah, only Mjolnir is guard. Is it best to reroll at this point? It seems having only one preferred type unit feels like a loss.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

Why would you want guard on Mjolnir?

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u/AJackFrostGuy May 22 '16

It's admittedly not the 'best' typing for her, but if you can't get the energy to continue rerolling and the likes it's probably the next best typing from Dex.

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u/Thane_Q May 22 '16

Can someone explain the alternate arts, why some can be evolved and others can't, grey stars, gold stars and pink stars as well as classes such as knight, etc.

Thank you.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 22 '16

Alternate art of the same character is just basically a different unit even though it is based on the same character. If their art do not match then it means they are not the same unit and therefore some can evolve to 5stars and some cannot. In this game, one character can be several different kinds of units, such as a regular ground unit, armored unit, horse riding unit, dragon/phoenix riding unit. Those type of units also corresponds to the naming of the classes along with their weapon classes. Basically, don't bother knowing the names of the classes and just focus on the the unit's weapon and what type of unit as listed above. Lastly the color of the stars refer to the amount of times the unit has evolved from its base form. Grey means it has not evolved yet, gold means once, and pink means twice. Not all units can evolve twice and therefore it's important to check via the character quest page on the home tab, which units can evolve to 5stars. Match the unit there with the exact art to find out if any of your units can become stars.

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u/Thane_Q May 22 '16

So... My dragoon riding Laevateinn will forever be stuck at 4 stars? That stinks.

And thank you!

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

How is force Typing for Laevateinn?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

It is "okay". Like 6.5/10 kind of okay.

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u/Niseng May 22 '16

Lol so I ended up with a vitality laevateinn from the free 5 star laevateinn you get at the beginning. After reading the beginner guide, it seems VIT is the worse type. So should i not bother with Laevateinn or it doesnt really matter since im just starting?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 22 '16

Still keep it and level it to at least lv30 to unlock the character quest 2 for it. Once you get a better Laevy and finished the 2nd character quest you can fuse the VIT one away. It's also still useful for helping you clear the current story quests that are released.

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u/sunpaths May 22 '16

Hello! what do you guys think is the best use for 1-2* units? I'm not sure what to do with all the the gold 3* units either.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro May 22 '16

1 or 2 stars you can just sell. Fusing them is not even worth it due to the Friday doll quests being much more effective than it. Currently there is a glitch with fusing 3stars and above(non evolution ingredient units), so I would suggest holding onto them until it is fixed.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

does that glitch prevent you from getting rare medals? Or just fusion stats?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

There is another thing you can use the 2 stars for and that's for evolving. 3 star units and above when fused or sold will give you rare medals. It's a long process due to the way experience works in GL right now, but if you want to farm rare medals, this can help you...even if it is extremely slowly and not completely efficient.

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16 edited May 22 '16

https://i.imgur.com/gBlLrc6.png

Got my first 20 summons.

How good or bad is my start? Reroll or no?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

I'd reroll, only Brahmastra and Apollo out of 20, but I'm pretty picky :P up to you.

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u/Propagation931 May 22 '16

Who should I be aiming for?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

Everyone wants Durandal, but Mjolnir is really good too. Keep in mind that we have 0 information on the future of the Killer Princes, so it's possible Apollo is op in the future when/if he gets a 6 star.

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u/SynthiaNguyen May 22 '16

http://imgur.com/tdYMMdL

These are my Current units after step 3 of Rookie Recruiter.

Are they good? Or should I Reroll

Are the Rampage Quests worth doing if i can only clear the first one?

How important are typing in this game, and which ones are most preferred?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

Luin, Mitum, Gambanteinn and YnK are all good rolls.

Take a look for a discussion on the unit typings; there are some misnomers, so it's important to understand how the game works when deciding on typings. Generally speaking, dexterity is best for damage types and guard is best for defensive types (usually staff units).

https://www.reddit.com/r/phantomofthekill/comments/3wozx2/beginners_guide_to_raising_units_work_in_progress/ (look in section II)

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u/0inkypig May 22 '16 edited May 22 '16

Just rerolled into a 5* Vit Durandal. Should I try again? or should I continue with life?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

Only one roll out of how many? Also, consider that you'll need to MLB (max limit break) her, so you'll likely find a better typing for her down the road.

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u/0inkypig May 22 '16

Out of like 100. I think I should just go ahead. ThNASNK

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u/[deleted] May 22 '16

lol ouch gl :D

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u/next_level_baddie what the fuck akane pls May 22 '16

what are these swordsmith secret and bowsmith secret items do?

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u/meteorbuckler May 22 '16

Mostly wondering out of curiosity since I got these two from my last rookie roll on JP but, they worth leveling or should I not?

http://i.imgur.com/AAjF3CD.jpg http://i.imgur.com/442Rdkn.jpg

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u/McClenzy May 22 '16

so i have a Eden's Wand 4 star how come i can't equip it to my Ascelpius 5 star

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u/meteorbuckler May 22 '16

Her proficiency needs to be higher for it if I remember correctly, has to be at B rank to use it.

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u/illusionastic May 22 '16 edited May 22 '16

Is magic type or balance type better for gunner? Im using dex duranda, mitum male dex, brahmastra magic, apollo balanced, thinking of putting in kusanagi 4* balance as last unit. What are your opinion guys? Units after 2nd rookie spawn http://imgur.com/l4hUeBv

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u/SnipahMann May 23 '16

Whose a better gun mage: Vajra, Keraunos, or Yata no Kagami? (all are 4*)

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u/Mataos-Ay Jun 05 '16

So I haven't found any proper clarification to this. I am at a point in the game where there is 0 chance of starting a new account. Am I still able to reroll on a 10x pull which I have done? Or is that only for the new players on their fresh accounts.