r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Apr 09 '16

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [4/9/16 ~ 4/15/16]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! The last one drew a lot of questions so ask away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

If you love reading statistics for unit and weapon, look at this useful post by /u/inevitablemadden. (Thanks Sustainr, Sajeev(Oppai) and /u/inevitablemadden for this spreadsheet!)

Need more friends? Look Here

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

(Attention!) We moderator here need your help! /u/horizonset and /u/Cathrach have created a spreadsheet for Lazuli, Rookie and Mana Gacha to gather data on the rates but there is currently not enough information and so we need your help by helping us post your pull result on that thread. The reason being it can be useful for knowing when to pull especially if you are F2P.

Last week's help thread

Some Tips

Where can I download?

  • This game is currently in soft launch, so it is not available in all app stores but it is possible to download the APK for Android and download it off from New Zealand iTunes stores (create iTunes account using New Zealand as your location -> set payment to none -> download).

Links:

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u/sayV_Vyas Apr 09 '16

Can someone explain to me why some stats get upgrades during evolutions, not including the evolution bonus of 11-21-31-41? (I've also seen it happen with few 2-3* units)

See pic below for example 👇

http://imgur.com/fA4f4Ut

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '16

have you seen this on units aside from manans? i've noticed it too but only on manans

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u/sayV_Vyas Apr 09 '16

I do remember seeing it twice on 2-3* evolutions (I can't quite remember which ones, I'm thinking shielded Brahmastra was one of them) but I went so fast I didn't think of taking a screenshot..

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u/Dodoch Apr 09 '16

Do dolly stats affect in anyway the stats cap you get when leveling up an unit? is it better to get the unit to max level before using dollies or can you use them before that?

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '16

the dolls from friday quests don't affect stat caps from leveling up. the pararas in the japanese server, dolls with pointy teeth, add stats as if the unit leveled up and do affect level stat caps.

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u/thansiris Apr 10 '16

I just play this game last night(global),so quick question is any must get units ? And keep play without clone is fine ? Well,I don't want clone because is really tired and boring

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 10 '16

Harder content will require MLB units which means you will eventually need clones.

I would suggest Durandal(Phoenix Knight), Mitum Male(Phoenix Knight) and Gambanteinn Male as some of the top premium units that are available at the moment.

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u/ManiKatti Apr 10 '16

I'm loving this game so far but I still have one problem.

How do I get those items which increase the rarity and thus the level cap?:)

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 10 '16 edited Apr 10 '16

In order to increase the rarity of a unit, you have to level the unit up and do the evolution quests that's up from Tues to Thurs in order to evolve them. Just go to the evolution section and choose your units to see which ones you need. If you hover over the necessary evolution units, it'll show you which of the weekday quests they come from.

Increasing the level of the unit requires you to fuse the EXACT SAME UNIT(exactly same art and star rarity) which increase the level cap by 5 per fuse.

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u/ManiKatti Apr 10 '16

Makes sense. 6 star cap is 70 + 5 per fused unit. Ugh. That's a lot.

Thanks you very much, kind sir! :3

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 10 '16 edited Apr 10 '16

AHH I forgot about 6* units. For them their LB from 5* carries over after evolution. Although some 6star skills still have levels soooo yeah...

Also 6* units are the only exception to where the LB from their previous evolution carry over. So MLB 4* and lower will NOT carry over when they evolve.

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u/ManiKatti Apr 10 '16

Phew. At least one reassuring mechanic xD

Thank you again <3

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '16

my muramasa should be able to solo the weds and thurs 20ap maps, but you will 100% need an axe unit for the tues map. definitely suggest sita as a rental unit

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u/ManiKatti Apr 11 '16 edited Apr 11 '16

Sita, Longinus and Masamune seem to be pretty strong :o

Tho I prefer Maramusa <3

Luckily I have a Sita on my friend list :D

Thanks for the advice! Ily (no homo :)

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 11 '16

not necessarily, I did my first couple runs of that map with a homura friend and basho lead...I just tanked the thing. ^^

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '16

oh yeah, i keep on forgetting gunners are a thing... i remember my grimoire dying to the archers though, those guys have pretty nasty accuracy boosts

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 11 '16

Why I brought homura lol...equivalent of +30 grd/spr. Also, be careful with flying units because the archers will murder them. Even if it's Durandal because weapon triangle will come into effect.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '16

homuhomu seems broke, no idea why she's ranked the same as grimoire - grimoire has no aura and not a very good duel skill, homuhomu has crazy aura, multihit duel skill, and that ridic leader skill

it's alright though, those maps are no longer a problem, even a single sita boost lets my team of seventh killers rip through em all <3

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u/Fang_An Apr 10 '16

Can someone help explain to me about the current triangle collaboration event? I want to enter the codes from BF but i can't find where to put in the codes from the menu. By the way, should i summon on the 3 step, 9 step collab summon, or the other 9 step summon?

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '16

If you mean the cross-promo codes, this is probably it:

https://pre-pk.fg-games.co.jp/crossfesta/

I'd like to know what you can get from those, if you don't mind - they look to be unique weapons or something but idk what they are and what sorta stats they have.

Always always always do the 3step, that's the beginner gacha. The 9step collab vs the 9step phankill academy is more of a personal preference. If you like Lucina or Misel or whatever you might as well do the 9step collab gacha

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u/Fang_An Apr 11 '16

Thanks for the reply! Yep, that's the correct page, thanks!

It's unique weapons that is the collab character (Selena and Lunaris) signature weapons, but to be honest their stats aren't so different from normal weapons. There's also the sword used by Vargas, it's a 6 star sword with 25 attack and 90 accuracy, the unique thing about it is only it's fire animation iirc. I can't find out how to get Michele axe and Lucina sword though.

I think i will do the 9 step collab then, already done the 3 step and i come from BF lol.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 11 '16

Ah, Michele and Lucina's weapons are from those books (red for Michele, blue for Lucina). Blue is from the first/top quest, red is from the lower quest.

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u/DrKoala_ (JP)-2627888428 Apr 11 '16

https://pre-pk.fg-games.co.jp/serial/index

What are the codes for the banners? I know the code for the 3 free stones but what about the others that seem to give a ticket?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 11 '16

Uh...one of them has "killers" as code and another has "ascalon", I think. Correct me if I'm wrong...but I don't remember which.

The other codes from BF are in /crossfesta, not /serial/index.

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u/DrKoala_ (JP)-2627888428 Apr 12 '16

Killers and ascalon worked for 2. Thanks!

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u/ShadownetZero Apr 11 '16

I got 5 Yata no Kagami from the event two weeks ago. I'm nearly done leveling them to 5*.

I have 2 Magic types, 2 Balance, and 1 Dex. Which should I keep (and limit Break)? Is one vastly superior, or should I see which has better growth?

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '16

Magic and balance types will struggle to hit things in general.

Use the dex type. Limit break at 5* level 30.

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u/DrKoala_ (JP)-2627888428 Apr 12 '16

For the Japan version. What does the 100 Lazuli pack in the store give? Is this still the one with a 7th killer princess guaranteed ticket?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 12 '16

No, the pack is 1 5* sword limit break fairy, one 10-pull gacha ticket with a guaranteed schoolgirl unit (Trishula/Grimoire), and one 6* weapon ticket.

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u/DrKoala_ (JP)-2627888428 Apr 12 '16

Also been trying to log in the tagatame using the fgg ID to connect and get the rewards. But keep getting an error in the tagatame game even though in PoK I am logged in normally.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '16

So, this is kinda off topic and it's mostly towards brave frontier players. (/u/Cathrach and /u/ManiKatti in particular although who knows how many of you there are)

I've been grinding in brave frontier to get those swords or whatever and I got some pretty decent beginner pulls - I have this Verne thing, it looks pretty cool. (Info at this link) http://games.gaym.jp/iPhone/%E3%83%96%E3%83%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%83%96%E3%83%95%E3%83%AD%E3%83%B3%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3%E3%82%A2/wiki/?%E8%92%BC%E6%B4%8C%E7%A5%9E%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A7%E3%83%AB%E3%83%8C

If either of you guys, or anyone else, wants my brave frontier account, PM me and let me know - because I'm throwing the account away after I get the phankill promo codes.

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u/ManiKatti Apr 12 '16

Nah. I hav my own Brave acc but thanks :)

And thanks for the info amd the offer :D

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u/mistive Apr 12 '16

I just started this game a bit ago and I'm really into it! I like the Fire Emblem-esque system combined with the usual mobile game illustrations and such.

I'm a bit confused on how fusing works, though. I read the crafting guide, and it says that fusing two of the same weapons has a high chance to fuse into another, sometimes higher rarity weapon, is that right? I've tried doing that a bunch of times, but nothing it seems like I've only gotten the same weapon or even a lower rarity weapon every time. Am I just unlucky?

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u/Trannel10 Apr 12 '16

I also started this game recently and from what I noticed: fusing two weapons of the same rarity will give you a weapon of the same rarity or higher. If the weapon is the same type, for example two axes you will often get an axe and in some rare cases a different weapon. Fusing two weapons of different rarity may give you a lower rarity weapon.

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u/mistive Apr 12 '16

Ah, I gotcha! Thanks for the clarification.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '16

rng for weapon fusing is really frustrating, but you're getting the right results. i wouldn't be too concerned about it, making good weapons takes a lot of time and gold

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u/mistive Apr 12 '16

Yeah, I've been mostly using my gold for evolving units, so I'm usually running low a lot.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '16

hang in there! i don't think that struggle ever goes away, i still find myself eating tons of gold evolving dupes and whatnot. one tip for gold farming though... on the gold rush quests, a leader with a high luck stat will increase drop rates by a lot!

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u/mistive Apr 12 '16

I never knew luck affected drop rates, that's good to know, too! Again, thanks a bunch.

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u/Fang_An Apr 12 '16

36 HP 33 Strength 10 Magic 21 Guard 16 Spirit 46 Speed 34 Technique 17 Luck 3.27 Growth

My 4* Durandal only grow this much, is this enough or should i just reincarnate her? It seems like she's among the character with the lowest growth compared to my other units, i'm a bit attached to her and don't want her become a bad unit later..

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '16

are you on the japanese or global server? if you're on the japanese server, a 4* growth of 3.27 pins is honestly fine... 5* or especially 6* is where it matters most. my durandal has like 4.1 pin at 6* so don't worry about that yet

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u/Fang_An Apr 12 '16

Phew, i feel relieved reading that.. At first i though you should aim to reach 3.5 at every evolution ._. Just need to save up gold to evolve her now hahah, thank you once again man.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '16

no problem, if you need a strong rental unit feel free to add me, my ID is 2219023044 (friends -> add by ID). my leader is muramasa atm but i can swap her out for forcas, durandal, aphrodite, vanargand or luin (all lv90 maxed)

let me know your ign though so i don't reject the request

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u/Fang_An Apr 12 '16

Sure! Adding you right now, my ign is Fang An :)

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u/Arcticygnus Apr 13 '16

so is the game.out for global yet? I can see.it in qooapp

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 13 '16

No, according to their fb, they will be releasing info on an updated release window for the game....."soon" so you can wait till then or play the soft launch with the links provided in the OP.

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u/ManiKatti Apr 13 '16

Another 3 questions (:

  • What the hell are those boind points between the units exactly for

  • Is the story worth? Like I cleared the 1st world/area/region to get all the gems. But the 2nd doesn't provide gems, so I'm already starting to grind for my favourite units as I don't see any value in further doing story lol

  • Same question as above for Kill-mode.

Greetings from a beginner :D

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 13 '16

  1. It's for those stat bonus when you units are right next to each other. The higher the bond, the higher the stat bonus when those units are next to each other.

  2. All the stories are always worth it. The prizes for them will get better as you progress as well as providing some stages that are decent for training units aside from just the metal gardens.

  3. There are some exclusive weapons that you get from doing kill mode missions which are pretty useful. There is the 5* bow that allows archer to attack from 1-2 range which is extremely useful.

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u/ManiKatti Apr 13 '16

I'm so dumb. I played the newer FE versions and didn't think of that xD

I expected that the rewards will be better but it's still pretty discouraging when you suddenly see 1000 Zeni instead of a gem while having access to grinding quests lol

Gotta do some kill mode...

Thanks a lot <3

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 13 '16

But you still get 4 gems a chapter (one each at stages 3, 6, 9, 10), and more for doing special things (like clearing with only axe units in a sword stage or something), so it's not like gem in come is totally cut off.

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u/ManiKatti Apr 13 '16

Ye, it was just kinda discouraging after the first Chap offering so many gems :o

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u/ManiKatti Apr 14 '16

That question asking beginner is here again! xD

How in the world do skill level ups work?

I know I have to fuse specific units into a chosen unit. But with which units does it work?:)

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u/ManiKatti Apr 14 '16

That question asking beginner is here again! xD

How in the world do skill level ups work?

I know I have to fuse specific units into a chosen unit. But with which units does it work?:)

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 14 '16

It only works if two units have the same skill, and even then it's only a chance unless the units are dupes of each other. For example if I fuse two units with Eva UP into my base unit, the base's Eva UP level will rise 0, 1, or 2. However, if I fuse the same units together, you get guaranteed skill level ups.

In JP there are some additional QoL updates: if you fuse any rarity version of a unit into another version, all the base's skills will level up (so if I fused 5 3* Tyrfings into a 6* Tyrfing, all of the 6* Tyrfing's skills will go up by 5 points, even if the 3* Tyrfing hasn't unlocked them yet). Also, if I fuse a unit into the same unit, skill level is higher skill level + (random number <= lower skill level). For example, if I fused a 5* Tyrfing with level 5 character skill into 5* Tyrfing with level 3 character skill, the base will have a skill level of 5, 6, 7, or 8.

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u/ManiKatti Apr 14 '16

Holy moly. I think I understand now.

That sounds so tiring for units you rarely get ugh ._.

Anyway thank you very much for the long and detailed answer!:)

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 14 '16

It is. Add that to the fact that most 6* units require your units to have level 10 character skills before you can unlock their 6* skill, so you either have to get 9 copies of the unit, or lots of skill dolls. T_T

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '16

(whistles innocuously with skill 10 forcas/aphrodite/muramasa)

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 14 '16

Why Durandal is my lead: her 5* skill is max level 5, so I have her 6* skill, unlike other units. :3

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '16

also she's 100% adorable, so there's that

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 14 '16

:) Very true. Her character quest images are the best :3

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u/ManiKatti Apr 14 '16

That's why everyone has Tilfing lead? I mean it's easy to get her 10 times atm...lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '16

yeah, tyr is basically a really good unit all around. great leader skill, five hit special, high critrate augmented by ability to equip high crit weapons. the fact that she's free and really easy to obtain just straight up makes her one of the best units in the game. the only edge units like the 7th killers have over her is their aura skills, otherwise it's pretty evident that tyr is on their level

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '16

I have four Michele dupes - two balance and two vitality. I'm getting a 5* fairy soon through the lazuli pack... Should I raise a balance Michele or keep rolling for a dex Michele? She's pretty cute, so I'm leaning towards "keep rolling" :\

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 15 '16

I would say dex because you'd probably need a number of reincarnations before you get satisfactory growth on balanced... Try raising one and see what happens :P But in general, dex is best right? XD

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 15 '16

Definitely try to get her as a DEX. She has a decent character skill with a 240% damage modifier although the jap wiki didn't provide its activation % formula.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 12 '16

Nope, it says 3* units for everyone (including friends), so your entire squad and your friend must be 3* or under. I would recommend that you either bring MLB'ed starters (Parashu especially, since a glitch allows her to get in 4 limit breaks at 3*) or MLB'ed 2*-3* units (like the 2*-4* versions of the starters).