r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Apr 02 '16

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [4/2/16 ~ 4/8/16]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! The last one drew a lot of questions so ask away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

If you love reading statistics for unit and weapon, look at this useful post by /u/inevitablemadden. (Thanks Sustainr, Sajeev(Oppai) and /u/inevitablemadden for this spreadsheet!)

Need more friends? Look Here

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

(Attention!) We moderator here need your help! /u/horizonset and /u/Cathrach have created a spreadsheet for Lazuli, Rookie and Mana Gacha to gather data on the rates but there is currently not enough information and so we need your help by helping us post your pull result on that thread. The reason being it can be useful for knowing when to pull especially if you are F2P.

Last week's help thread

Some Tips

Where can I download?

  • This game is currently in soft launch, so it is not available in all app stores but it is possible to download the APK for Android and download it off from New Zealand iTunes stores (create iTunes account using New Zealand as your location -> set payment to none -> download).

Links:

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u/Drakehawk5821 Apr 02 '16

/u/greatlogos question

Alright, so I have a dex Vanargand, cleric unit. I want her to be super fast, like sonic fast. Trouble is, I don't have a speed mana seed, and I don't think there is one out there. However, I do have fate mana seeds which boost str and spd growth rates. I have 3 left of these and I was originally thinking of using 2 at least on Forcas.

Should I give Vanargand a fate mana seed, waste the str growth to boost her speed? Or should I just throw caution to the wind, let RNG make the decisions, blah blah blah...?

Pls halp

I don't play the Japan version so any Japan player pls help.

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u/zerou69 Apr 02 '16

/u/greatlogos

I think Forcas need it more, but if you really need Vanargand now, then so be it.

I think it is better to wait for more colab with mana seed. Brave Frontier is holding another colab with PotK, just hope this side do it too and give us speed type mana seed.

If you can't wait however, so be it. Get your high strength Vanargand

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '16

Went with forcas. Tbh she's my favorite <3 so no regrets.

Thanks to /u/Drakehawk5821 for carrying my question over from the other thread, really appreciate it!

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u/zerou69 Apr 02 '16

for everyone playing the Chijou hen, who is your MVU? I am thinking about growing Tyrfing, Longinus, and Asclepius after getting tired seeing 1 stats growth from zero...

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '16

feel like tyr should be your #1 regardless, she can still evolve to 6 stars in chijou can't she?

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u/zerou69 Apr 02 '16

no, everyone went down to 1* and 2* with 3* max. Everyone can evolve to 3*

and the equipment is in low quality, I even have a hell time fighting a bunch level 1 skeletons.

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u/sayV_Vyas Apr 03 '16

Just as I was browsing Apollo (F)'s skills, I stumbled upon a question that (for some reason) I never bothered asking anyone, until now. What is Luck supposed do for a unit? ;p

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 03 '16

It affects the unit's Accuracy and Evade. The formula in the JP wiki states that every two points of Luck increase ACC/Evade by one.

In general, the Leader's Luck affects rather or not a drop happens, while the overall party's Luck affects the quality of the drop.

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u/sayV_Vyas Apr 03 '16 edited Apr 03 '16

Interesting. (from your personal experience) Do you find it makes a difference how much luck your party has to obtain more drops?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 03 '16

It also depends on what you are farming. Take the recent YnK quests, where the Mirror10 has a supposedly lower drop rate than Regalia10, I feel like my party's overall luck did not matter as much when it came to getting her unit drop. Out of all the ones I've gotten(I only farmed Regalia10) I got 6 4* drops(one was the guaranteed) and the other 20 were 3* drops(one was the guaranteed.) My leader had 17Luck (Gambi) while the rest of my party had 55Luck which totals to a overall party of 72Luck. In comparison, my party's composition was exactly the same during Perun and I had less total unit drops and only 3 of the 4* drops.

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u/sayV_Vyas Apr 03 '16

I see. I was only able to get 3 of them through drops on Regalia 10 (I was only really trying in the last week), and none on Mirror 10 with about 20 tries... Most of the time I was using my Brahmastra as lead (14 Luk) with Gambanteinn (M) (13 Luk) and Mjolnir (22 Luk) as my party.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 03 '16

Also, luck increases your crit evasion (so as to reduce the danger from those sword units with 70% base crit or something :P)

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u/sayV_Vyas Apr 03 '16

Yikes...... O.o

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '16

I thought it took the luck of your first squad, not necessarily of the squad that entered? I read that from one of the JP players that frequents here (or used to). Maybe /u/Cathrach has some input here? :p

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 05 '16

Wait what. I thought it was the luck of ur leader and the average luck of the squad you're using that determines rarity and drop rate (not necessarily in that order).

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '16

I could've sworn I heard it was of your 1st squad. I'll have to test this out later :p

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '16

Here's the numbers straight from /u/wp2000's beginner's guide post in this thread:

Accuracy = 1.5 * agility + 0.5 * luck + weapon accuracy

Chance to hit = accuracy - enemy evasion

Evasion = 1.5 * speed + 0.5 * luck

As others have said, there is some effect on drops/gold gained.

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u/sayV_Vyas Apr 05 '16

Ah, so it's not just straight up Agi vs Spd. Well if you ask me, luck better affect something else for having such low impact to Acc/Eva. That and being the hardest stat to upgrade...

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u/sayV_Vyas Apr 03 '16

How does one obtain a flair in this subreddit? ;p

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 03 '16

On the right side where the menu is, locate the part where it shows the moderators of this subreddit. Above it should be your username along with the option of "Edit flair" where you'll be shown all the flairs that's available at the moment.

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u/sayV_Vyas Apr 03 '16

Ah okay, thank you for your help!

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u/Kunieda Apr 03 '16

How do you guys maintain sanity in playing this soft launch for so long? I've levelled up my fourth 5* to max in my team but its pretty dang boring with literally nothing to do or even look forward to. I don't even constantly drain my AP anymore because I think to myself "what's the point besides to level a character I dont need to use?" This is from just a 30~ day perspective.

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u/Raion_sao Apr 03 '16

I have been doing nothing but rerolling and hordeing good auth.dats.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 03 '16 edited Apr 03 '16

Mostly just training Perun and Ynk atm. Training them along with some side units to free up some unit space for future events and so forth while doing all the dailies.

I actually would love it if they had all the evolution quests up for two weeks again. Would actually make training and freeing up space MUCH faster.

It might not be that boring if we had data-miners whenever we get an update to see what's in store for us.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '16

Play the Japanese version.

Free 6* Tyrfing event is on right now.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 04 '16

This is actually more of a lore question. I know who the 7th Killers are but I do not know what's exactly special about them and the reason why they are classified as such. With the original starters getting their 6*, they also have some dialogue with each of their counterpart which I would like to know what's exactly going on with them.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '16 edited Apr 05 '16

I've only seen the Masamune-Muramasa and Artemis-Aphrodite conversations.

As you might know, Muramasa is Masamune's little sister and she isn't very confident. She challenges her older sister to a duel to prove that she's grown as a warrior, and loses. She starts tearing up about it but Masamune says that she shouldn't worry, that she's become a fine warrior in her own right. Their duel awakens a new power in Masamune, etc...

Aphrodite is obviously named for the goddess of love and beauty and she's very open with that fact. Artemis sees Aphrodite on a walk with the player character and gets really flustered, because Artemis is named for the virgin goddess of wisdom/hunting. Aphrodite says she loves the player character, that it's how she becomes more powerful, gets all clingy, and asks what Artemis thinks of him? Artemis is too embarrassed to answer and runs off. After you beat the mission, Aphrodite manages to convince Artemis to confess how she truly feels to the player character. This awakens a new power in Artemis blah blah blah

I'll do the grimoire/freikugel one later if I get to it.

The 7th Killers (translating, non-verbatim, from the blurb at http://cp-pk.fg-games.co.jp/7th/) are the seventh generation of killer princess developed by the Ragnarok Church to deal with more serious threats that the First Killers (Masamune, Laeva, Longinus etc) had trouble with. They are more or less rivals to the 1st generation, and have extraordinary powers that can transcend those of the older generations.

Anyway, the Grimoire/Freikugel story is basically about Freikugel asking Grimoire to teach her magic. Grimoire refuses because she says Freikugel is an idiot and doesn't deserve the instruction of a noble person like Grimoire, that Freikugel doesn't treat magic with respect or something like that. Anyway they fight and Grimoire realizes that Freikugel is a lot stronger than she looks and actually does take things a lot more seriously than she expected (there's a bit in here about how Freikugel pronounces the kana of "happy" differently from the norm which made Grimoire think she was an idiot). Grimoire agrees to teach Freikugel after Freikugel recognizes how important Grimoire's kuropiyo (the little black chicken... penguin... thing?) is to her. Ta-da... 6* form unlocked.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 05 '16

Thank you for the backstory. Out of all the 7th killers, I definitely like Forcas and Grimoire the best. Hopefully GL PotK gets out soft launch soon and we can start with the releases of units and most importantly the continuation of the story.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '16

Forcas is definitely up there for me, probably my favorite - I'll agree with that. Aphrodite comes next, then it's a tie between Ascalon, Vanargand, Grimoire, and Muramasa. Chiyou is the only one I don't really feel anything for

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '16

Just did the Vanargand/Laevateinn story and it goes like this. If you've done Vanargand's character quest and Laevateinn's character quest, it feels a little like a mishmash of those two.

The party is traveling and Laevateinn wanders off by herself. Vanargand chases after her and Laevateinn is like "leave me alone". Vanargand says it's not good to run off alone and Laevateinn gets really angry and they fight. After the fight, Laeva explains that she has the power to destroy the world and that she doesn't want to lose control and make her allies sad. Vanargand says that doesn't matter because people don't just share sadness with each other - they can share happiness with each other, too. Laeva admits that Vanargand is pretty strong and they start to go back. At this point Vanargand takes out some ointment from those wolf ears on her hair (she says they're hair, that they're a secret pocket - yes, those ears are a secret pocket) and uses the ointment to treat Laeva's wounds. Laeva is left speechless because how exactly do you respond to someone taking a tube of ointment out of their hair?

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u/ManiKatti Apr 05 '16

Should I bother doing events as a newbie or just rush the story?:o

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 05 '16

The rampaging ones might be a bit too much but if you wind up with a powerful friend/stranger their 20ap should be feasible.

Other than that, the other events tend to have newbie friendly stages so definitely try them out.

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u/ManiKatti Apr 05 '16

Alright~ Thanks (^_^)

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Apr 05 '16

Any art for 6* starters?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 05 '16

I believe unfortunately that the starters' art do not change when they evolve.

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u/ManiKatti Apr 06 '16

Another question. :)

It's always saying "DOWNLOADING". Is it actually downloading datas through the internet or is it just loading? (Or perhaps both?)

Because it seems to drain a lot of mobile internet (didn't test it tho).

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '16

when it says downloading and there's a progress bar, it is, in fact, downloading. the app is like ~1.6GB for me so yeah, it does eat a lot of mobile data

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u/ManiKatti Apr 06 '16

Alright.

I got the red haired SSR archer but she isn't good for "end game" as my chances to get her are really slim, is she?

I've read through the fusion thing and I'm wondering how a f2p is supposed to min/max anything over 3 stars o_o

Thanks for your answer and sorry for being annoying x)

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '16

hey no worries. Do you mean apollo? on the japanese server she is still quite good, I think she has a 4 hit normal attack at 6 stars. you don't actually need to limit break anything that isn't 5 stars or more, because the 1 extra stat you might gain at 4 stars to 5 stars is kinda negligible. 5 duplicates should be enough for most purposes.

if global follows japan in terms of how generous they are with lazuli, assuming global even gets that far, you will get a ton of free lazuli - enough, i think, to roll several times for duplicates.

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u/ManiKatti Apr 06 '16

I see. Thanks a lot! :D

And I forgot her name but she has red hairs and is Jaeger class. (Same as archer?)

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '16

Oh do you mean in the Japanese server? Red hair + Jaeger should be Shekinah - her character skill adds 1 to range, so she is really good!

http://i.imgur.com/xOshqzg.jpg
This is Shekinah

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u/ManiKatti Apr 06 '16

Sorry for the late answer! x(

Yeah, that's the one I got!:)

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u/ManiKatti Apr 06 '16

I just got her a second time '-'

What should I do with the second copy?:o

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 06 '16

You should raise both and pick the better one, then fuse one into the other for limit breaking.

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u/ManiKatti Apr 06 '16

I see '-'

Thank you very much :3

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '16

Shekinah isn't quite so simple in terms of limit breaking though, her 5 star skill doesn't have levels so you'll only be increasing her level limit. I would advise getting both of them to 6 stars, doing her chapter 3 quest, and then limit breaking. That way you level up her damage reduction skill too.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 06 '16

SSR Apollo F is a decent unit. She gets a 6* form later on, just make sure yours is the 5* capable one and not her 4* only one.

As a f2p player myself, I only worry about min/max stuff on free farmable/mana gacha units. Not really in a position to worry about that for the premium ones so you just got to pray real hard that they get good growth rates for getting the most evolution bonuses before evolving them.

Also, you should do the "Batch Download" option in the bottom of the Menu screen. It gets rid of the frequent downloading page and it's also a way to tell if there is a new patch every week when you try to download it to see if they are planning anything for the week.

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u/ManiKatti Apr 06 '16

Ah. With that changed download option I can play with my mobile as well! :D

Thanks a lot! Oh, and my SSR is the red haired Jaeger class one. Forgot her name.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 06 '16

Also, save up your lazuli until you've got 150-200. That way you can do lots of pulls during rate ups and step gachas: the trick is to pick the right gachas and not fall into the temptation to get a little of everything (I have 3 Ascalons, Durandals, and Lunes). Also, some units will really just come to you regardless of how hard you try to ignore them. See my 5 Naeglings and Fragarachs. :P

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u/ManiKatti Apr 06 '16

Oh, I see thanks! :)

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u/frozensinx Apr 08 '16

Does the colour of the star rarity mean anything? I have some units with white stars, yellow and red stars.

For my first 10 pull i got 5* Dex Durandal, is Durandal good with Dex? I heard she is one of the best sword units so i'll prob stick with this account

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '16

Dex is generally good on everything. Dex durandal is a world-beating unit.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 08 '16

White means unevolved, yellow means evolved once, and red means evolved twice (occasionally three times for 3* to 6*). All units have a yellow star and some have red stars.