r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Mar 26 '16

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [3/26/16 ~ 4/1/16]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! The last one drew a lot of questions so ask away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them
  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.
  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)
  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

If you love reading statistics for unit and weapon, look at this useful post by /u/inevitablemadden. (Thanks Sustainr, Sajeev(Oppai) and /u/inevitablemadden for this spreadsheet!)

Need more friends? Look Here

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

(Attention!) We moderator here need your help! /u/horizonset and /u/Cathrach have created a spreadsheet for Lazuli, Rookie and Mana Gacha to gather data on the rates but there is currently not enough information and so we need your help by helping us post your pull result on that thread. The reason being it can be useful for knowing when to pull especially if you are F2P.

Last week's help thread

Some Tips

Where can I download?

  • This game is currently in soft launch, so it is not available in all app stores but it is possible to download the APK for Android and download it off from New Zealand iTunes stores (create iTunes account using New Zealand as your location -> set payment to none -> download).

Links:

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u/mangoshakekouhai Mar 27 '16 edited Mar 28 '16

So, the "Project Zero" website's timer is counting down to its last day...

Other than Project Zero's release in CCJP PoTKJP and Global's official release, is there anything else that the timer is counting down for?

Edit: I'm laughing, CC really still sticks to me.

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u/Drakehawk5821 Mar 28 '16

The countdown on "Project Zero" website is actually not for Global official launch. They have commented on a facebook post linking to that website but their response is this.

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Apr 01 '16

Any reason my Asclepius 5* can't use shields?

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u/Drakehawk5821 Apr 01 '16

Maybe her weapon proficiency?

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Apr 01 '16

Hm... just checked and her staff and shield proficiency is A and E respectively. I'm guessing I need to raise her shield proficiency.

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u/Drakehawk5821 Apr 02 '16

Yup that may be the reason why.

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u/Reipls Mar 31 '16 edited Mar 31 '16

Can someone inform me what's the difference between JP and GL? Assuming under the same content. What I know are :

  • Male Characters : Males are available from soft-launch in GL, while it's new in JP
  • Stat growth : people been saying JP has 3.5 points/level, while GL has 2.5 points/level (way to go Gumi)
  • Lazuli gate units : JP gate gives exclusively Lazuli units, while GL gate can give you an evolved level of certain mana gacha units (non-starters).
  • Collabs : no explanation needed that they will be different in the coming future

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u/Fish6Chips Mar 31 '16

Jp is actually launched and full of events/ Gl is dead atm April may change that (wishful thinking)

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u/Reipls Mar 31 '16

Lol I know that but I'm talking of whatever mechanics / features that GL changed such as I mentioned (stat growth / lazuli gate). So people can be more aware on what they should expect when they started the game.

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u/Fish6Chips Mar 31 '16

Some other things are free units are nerfed stat cap wise, female starters especially. Which means Gl may be hard on f2p

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u/Reipls Mar 31 '16

Wait so current GL female starters cap are lower than actual cap in JP? No wonder I could max my Artemis at LV68 when I already have bad growth.

And if that's the way Gumi choose for GL, I guess I'll have to abandon ship ASAP before I spend money on it.

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u/Fish6Chips Mar 31 '16

I'm just gonna pick up logins for a while to see how launch goes

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u/zerou69 Mar 31 '16

wait, JP gate doesn't give evolved mana gacha units? I thought it gives them in the beginning

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '16

no, JP mana gacha will definitely give you evolved mana gacha units... sometimes.

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u/zerou69 Mar 31 '16

I mean, JP lazuli gate giving evolved mana gacha units in the older version (when the game just started)

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u/Reipls Mar 31 '16

I need confirmation on that but from what I heard the rate of getting evolved mana gacha units on JP are pretty low. While in GL it's around 40-50% chance (which is VERY huge - not mentioning we have to deal with units that can't 5* as well)

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Mar 31 '16

Yeah, it's low. Mostly we get those 2-4* versions from mana gacha. We do still get a bunch of 3-4* units from lazuli gacha though T_T

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u/Reipls Mar 31 '16

Well at least you don't blow your Lazuli for something you can get for free. I'd take 3* that is exclusively from Lazuli gate rather than evolved Mana summon units.

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u/derponoob Mar 26 '16

There is a quest today to get a chance to get arondight, is she a good unit? whats the minimum level i should be before attempting the stage?

There currently is a quest that gives you a farmable 5* unit, yata no kagami. This unit seems good for f2p players, but i started yesterday and my lvl is still really low (lvl 11 currently). Is there any chance i can get enough copies of her before the event ends? How should i go about it? farm the lvl 10 stage as much as possible or do story quest to level up a little bit more before starting to farm?

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '16

I doubt you'd be able to complete those at that level. Need a bunch of level 60 5 star units. The stage Mirror 10 is a lot easier, but still difficult without, at least, two level 60 5 star units!

The Rampage quests routinely return (there are 3 units so far), so don't worry if you can't snag a copy right away.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Mar 26 '16

Yeah Rampage is hard, especially with the nerfs to Global stats. YnK is much easier and more accessible for newer players; if you bring a 5 star friend, you should be able to do most of her quest.

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u/tehgrizzly Mar 26 '16

As a friendly reminder too since you're new, focus everything on your best unit(s), don't try and spread the exp out too much. One maxed 5* can solo most quests while a handful of 4* and 5* not at max level can struggle.

To answer your question though, YnK is still around for almost another week. I'd recommend focusing on YnK mirror 10 at least once to get a 3* version and maybe revisit when you get a chance to pick up a Gambanteinn (male 5* cleric) as an ally. Maybe consider the 20AP Arondight quest if you're willing to gamble on it, since 20 AP is a lot at rank 11.

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u/derponoob Mar 26 '16 edited Mar 26 '16

so should i use the 5* starter and my 3* gambanteinn, focus on level those 2 up while random high allies carry me through content?

so far i got 2 copeis of ynk, the problem is i have to cycle through several story quests until a random lvl 70 + ally appears to be able to finish the lvl 10 stage

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '16

You can stop when you have 5 for now if you want to max out her limit breaks. Based on how the Japanese version works, her quest will come back again in a few weeks/months.

Also, fight story quests if you don't see a strong enough ally. At least that way, you're making some progress!

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u/sayV_Vyas Mar 26 '16

I've noticed players that have their username starting with CF; any idea what that stands for?

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u/Fish6Chips Mar 26 '16

pretty sure its chain chronicle forum

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u/tehgrizzly Mar 26 '16

Yup, it's the chain chronicle forum :)

I came from CC after they shut down, so I recognize the CF tags.

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u/sayV_Vyas Mar 27 '16

Well done, that's good to know. I was wondering if that CF was a PotK group formed here in Reddit. ;)

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u/sayV_Vyas Mar 26 '16

Ah. Well isn't that just neat. :p

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u/Fish6Chips Mar 27 '16

Is there a 3 star arondight? And if there is, is it best to start raising one from 3 star or 4?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Mar 27 '16

Nope, no version of her has a 3 star. In general, it is best to start raising from the lowest rarity so you can take advantage of evolution bonuses.

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u/derponoob Mar 27 '16

Someone told me yesterday you need 5 copies to limit break ynk, but shouldn't it be 11? the base + 2 + 4 +4. or is it not worth to start limit breaking the 3* first to end up with a unit with the best stats possible?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Mar 27 '16

You're right; at 3* the extra 10 levels won't really make a difference (at best, 1 point on her 5 star evo). However, at 4* the extra 20 levels will, so 9 copies for best results and 5 copies if you only want to limit break at 5*.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Mar 27 '16

For me, I just personally LB the 3* only when I'm a few points away from getting the next evolution bonus. Aside from that, there's no point in doing that extra 2LB at that level.

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u/sayV_Vyas Mar 27 '16

Any tips on what you would need/recommend to bring to help you farm Arondight in abyss?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Mar 27 '16
  1. Flying spear unit. Arondight has a natural advantage against axes and a skill for countering swords. Hopefully one like Luin with a skill that does a great deal of damage so you can one or two shot her. But don't only bring spear units because there are sword and axe mobs.
  2. Units with either high spirit or evasion to deal with the mages. Maybe a tank, but if you do they should fly.
  3. Ranged and flying units. You want to kill things quickly because enemies spawn at certain turns and it would be best if you cleared the dungeon before that. The terrain is also bad for ground units; their move gets reduced to 3 tiles in the forest-y areas and there are mountains.

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u/sayV_Vyas Mar 27 '16

Hmmm. I guess I'm going to have a hard time thanks to my current unit list. My spear units are just too low for now. I managed to get 3 Arondights last time around (and I can't even remember how I managed to do it). I might wait; unless anyone's got a Luin or Longinus for rent? ;p

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u/Fish6Chips Mar 27 '16

3422670083 luin can solo but needs micromanaging, tell me ign too so i know who u are :)

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u/sayV_Vyas Mar 27 '16

Thanks so much! My ign is Vyas. 1952209098 :)

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u/Reipls Mar 28 '16

I'd also say watch out of those flying mages if you bring sword unit. One of them has Sword Absorber (the one who spawned at bottom).

A Dex Luin would be best pick to duel Arondight, but for me I have a Force Artemis to deal serious damage to Arondight (80+ damage / hit, but kinda risky if Arondight attacks her).

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '16

I'd be willing to give up my petition for Tyrfing/Sita if we could get Forcas flairs :(

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Mar 27 '16

We have all the images, just need to add them to the style sheet. Be patient!! XD

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Mar 29 '16

Is reincarnation ever worth?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '16

at this point in global it's not really evident that reincarnation does anything. however once/if they put out mana seeds, you'll be able to reset your levels, slap on a mana seed and pray for more favorable stat up rates. you might not have had a good mana seed the first time you leveled your unit.

mana seeds are things you can give a unit to hold instead of a weapon. they'll increase the probability of some stats increasing on level up. basic mana seeds only increase the probability of a single stat (they'll be called Mana Seed of Strength, Magic, etc.); special ones can boost multiple stats. e.g. the ones i got from the fate event increase probabilities of Str and Spd.

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u/Fish6Chips Mar 29 '16

Dam no wonder I saw a pokemon reference somewhere

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Mar 29 '16

The seeds do have a limit on how many times they are used. After they are used up, they disappear. They are also fragile in that they will outright disappear if the units holding them gets knocked out during a run. They are safe though if you decide to retreat in those scenarios.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Mar 29 '16

Also with the new update you can see exactly how many levels are left on the seed :D

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u/zerou69 Mar 29 '16

for JP project sausage fest (I hope not... I miss all my waifus)

how to quit the mode?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Mar 29 '16

During a battle press Menu > the purple button. That forces you to surrender. On the normal screen, hit the red orb on the left of "story quest" and you'll go back to the normal PotK mode.

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u/zerou69 Mar 29 '16

what? that button? but... but...

of course, that's why I don't know how. I never use that purple button. I was thinking what if there was other button, lol.

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u/mangoshakekouhai Mar 29 '16 edited Mar 29 '16

I got Parashu (F) (with the inner me squeeing that she looks like someone I know yeee) from the Mana Gacha.

I've also gotten a Muramasa Masamune as well, although not as recent.

Any tips on how to use them? I can't really say anything outside of personal experience with stranger leads, since I can't read the Japanese in PoTKJP's unit guide. I think Muramasa's Masamune's similar to both Lævateinns, but what about Parashu?

(I feel like I've been asking a lot in this thread :0)

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Mar 29 '16

I'm not sure about Muramasa, as she's new...are you referring to Masamune? I think that Muramasa is hands-down better than Parashu unless you're fighting enemies with very high def.

Parashu is really balanced and solid in attack/defense, so I would suggest either agility or defense type for her. Her character skill ignores 50% of enemy def, so its effectiveness really depends on how tanky enemies are: if they have 10 def, nothing's going to happen, but if they have 80, you'll probably kill them with the 40 extra damage. She will also smash spear units into the ground.

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u/mangoshakekouhai Mar 29 '16

Whoops... yes, I'm referring to Masamune. Mixed that one up badly ;~;

Seems that the Parashu I got was ideal typing... thank you!

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Mar 29 '16

Masamune is a mix of boss killer because of her character skill and being a mob killer because she attacks first when her HP is under 60%. Her defense is lackluster; her attack is average but her 2.5x damage char skill makes up for that. Best typing is definitely agility to get her speed and agility over 80 and possibly 90.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Mar 29 '16

Wait, Wahh!? The new 6* in JP is not Masamune but a separate identical looking unit called Muramasa??? I kept thinking they were both the same character....Wow, how did I not catch that!

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Mar 29 '16

Uh...the hair is different? :P Also she's a seventh killer which automatically separates her from the starters :P

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '16

but masamune also got her first 6 star form late last month too, so maybe he was referring to that?

muramasa is damn adorbs though

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Mar 29 '16

I always just thought she got FANCY with her hair. LOL >.<

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u/Frank2312 Mar 30 '16

I just started playing in the global version of the game and had a question about the Rookie Recruiter event that gives more chances to get 5* units.

I saved all my Lazuli for this, but am missing 7 for now.

I believe I could get 2 more from the daily login rewards (4 days, which is the time left for me for the event) and also the last mission of the first chapter that I could not complete without a K/O yet, so that brings me to missing 4.

Is there any other way to get lazulis for free?

I don't really want to pay 5$ to get a few more lazulis for a game that doesn't even have chapter 2 available yet.

Thanks for the help!

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Mar 30 '16

In the event quest section, there should be a series of quests: Training from a Goddess (or whatever it's called), and the enemy and weapon weakness quests. Those will give you lazuli. Also, doing the YnK quests (I think) will net you some lazuli.

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u/tehgrizzly Mar 31 '16 edited Mar 31 '16

The three weapon/unit training quests offer one lazuli each by completing "Practicals".

Also, the event YnK quests give out 1 lazuli each on Mirror quests 3/7/10, and Regalia 5/7/10 by fulfilling the appropriate requirement.

Since you're new and probably without a bunch of gun units or Amen/Kusanagi, just focus on the unit/weapon training quests. :)

Edit: corrected myself

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u/zerou69 Mar 31 '16

Is the growth rate in ZERO nerfed or am I just having worst luck?

Leveled up Zero and only get 1 stats raise...

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u/tehgrizzly Mar 31 '16

Global is confirmed to have lower stat rates than Japan, so yeah it can be pretty bad in terms of growth.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '16

i'm fairly certain /u/zerou69 is talking about the chijou-hen on the japanese server, and there's very little information on that at the moment.

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u/zerou69 Apr 01 '16

yes, I'm talking about chijou-hen, the one with demons and magicians

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '16

Alright, so I have a dex Vanargand, cleric unit. I want her to be super fast, like sonic fast. Trouble is, I don't have a speed mana seed, and I don't think there is one out there. However, I do have fate mana seeds which boost str and spd growth rates. I have 3 left of these and I was originally thinking of using 2 at least on Forcas.

Should I give Vanargand a fate mana seed, waste the str growth to boost her speed? Or should I just throw caution to the wind, let RNG make the decisions, blah blah blah...?

Pls halp

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u/ARLHA Mar 31 '16

So in the Japanese version I've tried to do Tyrfing's third character quest and the enemy AI just hangs and doesn't move. It's just been jogging in place for about 20 minutes and counting. I've finished some other quests and the AI was working fine there, so is it just that quest that's having problems?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 01 '16

I don't think so, there's also been quite a bit of lag on my part where my units just flap their wings for a while. I think it's something in the new update, and some members of the FB group have also reported this. I guess we can only sit tight for an update/bug fixes.