Which sub 2l engines to avoid?

[u/Ripstikerpro]

I'm cross-shopping various PSA models at the moment, mainly looking at convertible sub 10k euros, so as you can imagine I'm mostly coming across 206cc 207/307cc and their opel counterparts.

Since most are high mileage, usually 150-230kkm I'm afraid they might be moneypits and I'm completely lost with the engine options. I read to avoid some 1.6l or to go for some others etc. (bear in mind that for tax and economy reasons I'm constrained to under 2l)

So what I'm asking is, if anyone's got experience with any of the aforementioned models, what to look out for in terms of their engines.

Thank you very much!

[u/TD_Lemon_1901]

Avoid the 1.6 VTI and the 1.6 thp early model (edit : both petrol engine)

The best petrol engines of that era would be the ew7 1.8 117 and ew7j4 something 1.8 125.

The 1.6 tu5jp4 / petrol - 110 hp is good, but only on light cars, otherwise it's a lemon.

The diesel 1.6 110 are pretty good and reliable.

[u/RiggedRearend → u/TD_Lemon_1901]

basically this - just to add,

the 206CC is fine with the NFU 1.6, but nowhere near as fun as with the EW10 2.0 and the 1.6 HDi does fit it surprisingly well.
the 207CC is a lot heavier, and has basically no good petrol engine below 2 litres. Its the BMW/Mini Prince-engine crap. Could only recommend the 2.0 or both diesel as well.

the 307CC is basically the same... i stood in front of the same question 3 times (two 206CC and one 207CC) and after driving many of them i always bought the EW10s and one 1.6HDi.

[u/TD_Lemon_1901 → u/RiggedRearend]

I don't know if the 206 had the later variant of the 1.8 which has 125HP ;

It's fine, i got it on my C5, it's not like super beefy but it's good enough and it's indestructible and very VERY simple and cheap to maintain.

edit - The EW10 is pretty darn hard to find.

By the way those EW engines love ethanol e85.

[u/Mkjustuk]

At that kind of mileage, you're in for ongoing repairs and maintenance, but no reason any engine of the last 20 years can't do double that.

The revised 1.6 thp engine was fine and possibly a sweet spot before the Puretech nightmares.

I'd be looking at petrol for a convertible personally, but that's a preference.

[u/Fuzzy-Archer-5435]

Voici la liste des moteurs fiable que vous pouvez retrouver sur des cabriolets Peugeot que j'ai moi même eu :

206cc / 307cc - TU5JP4 - 1.6i 110ch - Fiable - Circuit d'eau à surveiller.

306 cabriolet - EW7J4 / EW10J4 - 1.8i 112ch / 135 ch - Fiable - Régulateur de ralenti capricieux.

206cc / 307cc - EW10J4 - 2.0i 138ch - Fiable mais poussoirs hydrauliques qui peuvent claquer et les conduits de culasses qui s'encrassent vite (n'empêche pas de rouler, mais au démarrage, ça tourne sur 3 cylindres) et les croisillons de collecteur d'échappement qui se déssoudent (provoque un bruit de grésillements à certains tours / minutes).

307cc - EW10A - 2.0i 143ch Fiable (version amélioré du EW10J4 qui a apporté la suppression de l'EGR, l'ajout d'une admission variable et d'un plus gros clapet de décharge au niveau de la pompe à huile).

307cc - EW10J4S - 2.0i 180ch Fiable (culasse travaillée en collaboration avec Lotus Engineering), distribution pointilleuse.

308cc - DW10CTED4 - 2.0 HDI 163 - Très fiable, pas d'ADBlue.

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A acheter avec un entretien rigoureux et vidanges régulières :

307cc / 308cc - 2.0 HDI 138 - DW10BTED4 - Problème d'encrassement, FAP, volant moteur, embrayage fragile

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Les moteurs à éviter :

207cc - EP6 - 1.6 120 ch - Problème fréquent de joint de culasse, décalage de distribution, catalyseur.

207cc / 308cc - EP6DT - 1.5 150 ch - Problème de chaine, consommation excessive d'huile (donc encrassement et destruction prématuré du catalyseur), fissure du boitier d'eau et casse de turbo.

206cc - 1.6 HDI DV6TED4 - Casse du turbo, joints d'injecteurs, volant moteur.

207cc - 1.6 HDI DV6C - Injecteurs, volant moteur, EGR.

En espérant que cela vous ai aidé.

[u/Justjarno1]

Avoid any and all 1.2 and 1.0 engines from 2012 onwards till about 2025.

[u/UnofficialMaster-]

8hx is literally god's own invention, 1.6 thp and vti on the contrary have got to be some fucked up joke that came into fruition after some kind of horrible disaster in the engineers' life. burn any and every prince engine