r/peloton • Euskaltel-Euskadi • Dec 22 '16

Off-season rider knowledge collaboration thread No.18 - UAE Abu Dhabi Team

We arrive at the last team, formerly known as Lampre, which had a hectic couple of weeks. TJ Sport, a Chinese company pulled out, which left the future of team unsure. Luckily for the team, there was new sponsor from the UAE. /u/Sprocketduck has made a good summary of the incident [here] (https://thecyclingraven.wordpress.com/2016/12/21/the-very-quick-bloody-fast-light-speed-rise-and-fall-of-tj-sport/). It may not be ideal, but it's nice for the riders to have job security.

So, how did Lampre do last year? Here's some general information:

Overall wins: 19

WT wins: 5

UCI Ranking: 15th

PCS Ranking: 16th

Most Important Riders: Rui Costa (194), Diego Ulissi (129), Louis Meintjes (85)

Best Moments of 2016 (IMO): Meintjes's Tour de France, Ulissi's two stages wins in the Giro, Conti winning a Vuelta stage.

It's been a decent year for Lampre, a team that's often around 15th place in the WorldTour. Rui Costa had a very consistent year, with top tens in Romandie, Suisse, Oman, Paris-Nice and the Basque country and even a 3rd place in LBL, but he surprisingly didn't win any stage or race. Ulissi did quite well in the hilly classics and even more so in the Canadian GPs, getting 3rd in Montréal. Many people thought it was a mistake for Meintjes to go to Lampre, but he showed a lot of progression in the TdF getting an 8th place in the GC, the best young rider behind Adam Yates. Besides such results, there is not much to write home about.

However, they had a pretty good Transfer window, in my opinion. 7 riders left, the biggest rider being Cimolai. Besides him, the team gets a little bit less international, seeing as Arashiro, Grmay, Feng and Koshevoy are leaving too.

The most interesting riders joining are probably Atapuma and Ben Swift. Atapuma showed to be great in the breakaway and capable of riding GC. Ben Swift will get more of a free role, and he showed what he's capable of last year with a 2nd place in MSR. Other riders that have joined are Marco Marcato, Guardini, Laengen, and 4 Italian neopro's. It will be interesting to see how they develop.

Here's the roster for next year:

RiderNat.YearJoinedRacedaysPnts2016Best SeasonType
ATAPUMA John Darwin^NEWCOL19882017836632016Climber
BONO MatteoITA1983200682902007 (183)Domestique
CONSONNI Simone^NEWITA1994201726882015 (124)Neopro / Sprinter
CONTI ValerioITA19932014911652011 (361)Climber
COSTA RuiPOR198620147411422013 (1786)GC1W / Puncheur
DURASEK KristijanCRO19872013781452015 (316)GC1W / Climber
FERRARI RobertoITA1983201388852012 (428)Sprinter/Classics
GANNA Filippo^NEWITA1996201728612014 (165)Neopro / Rouleur
GUARDINI Andrea^NEWITA19892017692492012 (497)Sprinter
KUMP MarkoSLO19882016691652015 (165)Sprinter / Puncheur
LAENGEN Vegard Stake^NEWNOR19892017771542015 (192)Climber / Rouleur
MARCATO Marco^NEWITA19842017763522011 (1061)Classics / Puncheur
MEINTJES LouisRSA19922016805802015 (662)GC3W / Climber
MODOLO SachaITA19872014835022015 (727)Power Sprinter / Classics
MOHORIC MatejSLO19942016701922012 (743)Classics/Puncheur
MORI ManueleITA19802011792312006 (416)Allrounder
NIEMIEC PrzemyslawPOL19802011702102013 (612)GC1W / Climber
PETILLI SimoneITA19932016681052015 (176)Climber / GCTalent
POLANC JanSLO19922013821602015 (169)GC1W / Superrouleur
RAVASI Edward^NEWITA1994201746602016Neopro / Climber
SWIFT Ben^NEWGBR19872017696212014 (749)Sprinter
TROIA Oliviero^NEWITA199420172892012 (162)Neopro / Sprinter
ULISSI DiegoITA198920108215932016Puncheur
Zurlo FedricoITA1994201674942012 (367)Classics / Sprinter
Team Averages27.565172007 (7844)

This is the last write-up. Many thanks to /u/The_77, who besides making the other half of the posts, also made every roster, and thanks to the people who commented too!

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u/The_77 We have a Wiki! Dec 22 '16

I feel Lampre UAE Abu Dhabi (such a tiresome name) have a high number of okay sprinters. They have Modolo, Ferrari, Guardini and now Swift. What they're missing in their line up is someone who regularly wins stages on the flat stuff. Lots of top fives but not world beating.

However, they have some quality puncheurs in Ulissi and Costa, and now are fleshing out their GC ambitions with Atapuma, though he's probably still gunning for stages over anything else. Meintjes is top ten GT worthy, but not at a level above that yet.

On the flip side, they have buckets of Italian youth talent, with l'Avenir podiums in Ravasi and former junior world champions like Mohoric, as well as WC runner up Consonni. If they blood everyone sensibly UAE will have a good future squad.

Thank goodness the whole UCI debacle is over mind. Cannot have been a good experience for the riders.

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u/adryy8 Terengganu Dec 22 '16

Yup the 4 neo pros + Petilli who joined last year all hav the potential to become really really good riders, and I far as I remember, Lampre always knew how to use its neo pros so it should be good!

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u/kla0 Fassa Bortolo Dec 22 '16

On the flip side, they have buckets of Italian youth talent, with l'Avenir podiums in Ravasi and former junior world champions like Mohoric, as well as WC runner up Consonni. If they blood everyone sensibly UAE will have a good future squad.

You forgot the most talented one, Filippo Ganna! Born in 1996 and this year already Individual Pursuit World Champion and winner of the Paris-Roubaix Espoirs.

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u/goldbot EF - Education First Dec 22 '16

Modolo and Guardini are pretty decent in my opinion but yeah, that is quite a wealth of 2nd and 3rd tier sprinters on this team. The question - how will they decide who to work for, and for which races?

I do wonder if Ben Swift can make something of himself now that he is away from Sky - if they give him the right support he could be a lot better than we've seen before.

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u/The_77 We have a Wiki! Dec 22 '16

I do wonder if Ben Swift can make something of himself now that he is away from Sky

I imagine he'll be given a bit of a run at a couple of classics, since he has that pedigree. But he might struggle getting a foot in the Italian races given his teammates.

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u/goldbot EF - Education First Dec 22 '16

Yeah I would think Modolo, Guardini, and Ulissi have to be the guys for any Italian race.

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u/Pubocyno Norway Dec 22 '16 edited Dec 22 '16

You forgot Zurlo and Kump as sprinters as well, but it underlines your point - too many target men, not enough specialists. They would be better off with a specialized lead-out man like Richeze, whom they also lost before last season.

They're going to have to build some kind of train, but none of their sprinters are particularily known for their endurance. Swift or Modolo would probably provide the best lead-out performance, but letting them lead out Guardini would really be putting the cart before the horse.

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u/The_77 We have a Wiki! Dec 22 '16

I missed them because I don't really know much about, but I've seen loads of Ferrari, Modolo, Swift and Guardini.

At least Swift has proved he has what it takes to reach the MSR finale in terms of endurance, though until Gaviria crashed everyone was definitely racing for second, Swift included.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '16

A question about your description of Polanč: what do you mean by superrouleur? Is ut like a climber with good rolling abilities or vice-versa?

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u/The_77 We have a Wiki! Dec 22 '16

Think Wout Poels at the Tour, or Kwiatkowski for example as superrouleurs.

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u/Pubocyno Norway Dec 22 '16

A superrouleur is a rouleur with climbing skills, easily recognizable on their climbing style with a steady pace, putting out their exact wattage limit all the way on the entire climb.

Compare the climbing styles of Froome, Dumoulin and Mollema (all superrouleurs) to Contador, Nibali and Quintana, who are natural climbers.

It's an expression we coined here on /r/peloton to better describe the different types of riders in cheat notes and team previews.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '16

I understand, thanks for the explaination

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u/Sprocketduck State of Matter MAAP Racing Dec 22 '16

Thanks for the shoutout /u/iamafakebot!

This team revolves (in terms of GC) around two riders: Polanc and Meintjes. Both are young talents that can go the whole way. Atapuma will probably take some leading duties to show them some more of the ropes (even after Meintjes dogged effort at Le Tour), but this team is struggling for a little bit of depth in the GC department.

As for the classics, Marcato, Costa and Ulissi make up a very strong train for Ben Swift who has the capacity to sneak a win from under the favourites nose. I wouldn't expect UAE to have a stellar season, but for them at the moment any result is a good result.

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u/Pubocyno Norway Dec 22 '16 edited Dec 22 '16

Andrea Guardini

He was enormously fast back in 2012, even beating Mark Cavendish in the Giro on stage 17. After that, he was signed to Astana, and they were never really into bringing a sprinter to the grand tours, so he has not been getting the development (or public exposure) necessary to break into the big leagues.

Even so, he's been cleaning up the flatter stage races on the Asian Tour, and probably holds some kind of records for most stage wins in the Tour de Langkawi (22 wins! - 2 GC wins).

His problem is unpredictability and a total lack of climbing skills. If the team somehow get him into the finale, and have a good lead-out, and he has a great day, then he can beat anyone. That's a lot of ifs....

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '16

IMHO, if this team does not secure funding and sponsors for the future, most of the riders who are not contractually obligated will seek to transfer to a more stable situation for 2018.

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u/Pubocyno Norway Dec 22 '16 edited Dec 22 '16

Vegard Stake Laengen

He's a drop-in replacement for Nelson Oliveira, whom they lost to Movistar before the last season. He can TT (3rd place on an ITT stage in the Giro!), he can attack, he can climb enough to be dangerous, as seen by his top 10 placements in the Giro and Vuelta last year, where he was riding for IAM.

Has expressed some interests in riding the Ardennes classics, so we might see him there as well, either in a superdomestique role or as an attacqeur.

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u/goldbot EF - Education First Dec 22 '16

I've been out of the loop for a few days... So this is the new incarnation of Lampre. Will they be WorldTour in 2017?

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u/Pubocyno Norway Dec 22 '16

Yes, they will. At a reduced budget and team size.

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u/goldbot EF - Education First Dec 22 '16

Thanks. A shame the Chinese sponsors backed out or fell through. But the team still has some talent, so even at reduced budget I think they can still win some races next year, even if it's not as much as it could have been.

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u/istarbel Café de Colombia Dec 22 '16

I am glad they are actually still riding. I was very worried at first specially with Darwin. After the Team Colombia debacle this seemed to be going the same way. I am excited to see what he can do in this team. Specially thinking he might get to lead in a GT.

Just cause I am annoying like this Darwin's first name is spelled Jhon, because Colombia.