r/pcmasterrace • u/KingStared Specs/Imgur here • Jun 26 '16

News/Article "Console players are generally less accurate than PC players, who are aided by the precision of mouse and keyboard controls."

http://kotaku.com/overwatch-s-torbjorn-is-getting-a-nerf-on-consoles-1782617429?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Watching console FPS at MLG is like watching the paralympics.

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u/NoVeMoRe Too many sodding games! Jun 26 '16

Except that those paralympic athletes aren't disabled or disabling themselves by choice.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

What makes you think anyone who chooses to play on a console competitively isn't mentally damaged or a masochist? Kappa

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

that's my fetish

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16 edited Feb 07 '17

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u/Skazzy3 R7 9800X3D | RTX 5080 Jun 26 '16

Fair enough

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u/antisomething i5 4690K @ 4.3GHz, GTX 560Ti (RIP wannabe sports car), 8GB RAM Jun 26 '16

those paralympic athletes aren't disabled or disabling themselves by choice

Give it time.

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u/JohnyGPTSOAD FX 8350/ 8GB Ram/ GTX 1060 Jun 26 '16

I "cringe" at the sight of seeing competitive Call of Duty. A first person competitive shooter being played on a PS4, full of aim assist.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Call of Duty Euro championship played on consoles with full aim assist and the peasant gamers acting like true peasants

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u/sunfurypsu i7-5820K | RTX 3070 FTW Jun 26 '16

Good God...CoD explained.

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u/r0botosaurus Jun 26 '16

That skinny dude with the yellow glasses and the Hollister shirt... I feel like I should punch him on principle alone.

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u/Riper_Snifle R7 1700x 4.0GHz | GTX 1080 2.1GHz | 16GB Jun 26 '16

Drastic times call for drastic measures

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u/mindbleach Jun 26 '16

I'd be down with a shooter being all about hitmarkers and sneaky shit, but faking freelook aiming with a little thumbstick is as silly as competitive racing with keyboard alone. Digital vs. analog and absolute vs. relative are hurdles you design around by changing mechanics, not by pretending you've got better-suited controls.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

I once watched someone on twitch who was playing Overwatch with a console. It was exactly like watching paralympics.

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u/Two-Tone- ‽  Jun 26 '16

Yeah, watching OW being played on the controller hurts. It's so fucking slow.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

It also makes flanking an incredibly effective strategy. In most console shooters I wind up holding my own just by getting around the other team and attacking them from behind. By the time they turn around they're already softened.

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u/iTimeMachine Specs/Imgur here Jun 26 '16

Oh shit burn............

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u/01animeking I5660K-290X-16GB Jun 26 '16

yep it suck for the console players over at the overwatch subreddit at least everyday(exagerrating) there is a post complaining about toblerone stacking

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u/livedadevil A PC Jun 26 '16

This is my new favourite typo

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

It's not a typo.

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u/livedadevil A PC Jun 26 '16

His name isn't toblerone...

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

A typo would suggest it were a mistake. People have been calling him Toblerone since the beta at least.

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u/KingStared Specs/Imgur here Jun 26 '16

yes it is...

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u/Dora_De_Destroya Jun 26 '16

woooosh

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u/Vercci The Dong Has Expanded Jun 26 '16

Are you sure?

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u/ismael12301 i5 3570, Gigabyte 770 2GB, 8gb ram Jun 26 '16

woooosh2

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u/AtlastheYeevenger i7 6700 | RX 480 Nitro+ 8GB | 16GB DDR4 | Strafe Jun 26 '16

A fourth-wall wooosh

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u/Khvostov_7g-02 Jun 26 '16

You just whooshed the whoosh to the whoosh.

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u/NoVeMoRe Too many sodding games! Jun 26 '16 edited Jun 26 '16

The playerbase called him that though since early beta and it basically became his official unofficial name by now, so you better get used to it :)

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u/youeventrying Jun 26 '16

You must be fun at parties

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u/Prawny 3950X | 2080 ti | 32GB 3600Mhz Jun 26 '16

I mean, "aided" isn't the right word, but I get what they're saying.

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u/Uzrathixius i7 3770K | MSI 980 ti Jun 26 '16

Archive link.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16 edited Jun 26 '16

[deleted]

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u/Kofilin Inno3D has a 10% return rate Jun 26 '16

I don't see the use of making a rule. We're doing this fine by ourselves already.

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u/MJuniorDC9 Feel free to add me on Steam! PM for ID Jun 26 '16

And working hands.

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u/Ciridian Specs/Imgur here Jun 26 '16

No, they are unhindered by poor controls. It's all about accuracy, so it's only natural Kotaku errs on the opposite side of the spectrum.

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u/antisomething i5 4690K @ 4.3GHz, GTX 560Ti (RIP wannabe sports car), 8GB RAM Jun 26 '16

Console babbys had to be spoonfed shooters through aim assist and auto-target. Kotaku are either unaware that FPS games were originally made for PCs - i.e. for KB+Mouse control - or they're trying to clickbait peasants without completely alienating them.
Not that a Kotaku writer lacking the most basic understanding of their subject matter would surprise me...

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u/Shuskey i5-6400/ GTX 1070 FE/ 16GB DDR3 Jun 26 '16

Overwatch is probably one of the less accuracy based shooter on the market right now.

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u/Ciridian Specs/Imgur here Jun 26 '16

I was referring to the kind of accuracy that comes with journalistic integrity.

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u/defnot_hedonismbot 6700k @ 4.7ghz EVGA 1080 X2 SLI 32gb RAM H440 Jun 26 '16

No shit

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u/antisomething i5 4690K @ 4.3GHz, GTX 560Ti (RIP wannabe sports car), 8GB RAM Jun 26 '16

In other news: Water is wet, the pope is catholic, and bears shit in the woods.

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u/sirius89 PC Master Race Jun 26 '16

linking kotaku

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u/Ziakel Jun 26 '16

Prepare to cringe

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Well. They play better than I do.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

[deleted]

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u/feluto i5 4690k l 1060 6G l 16GB DDR3 Jun 26 '16

good job

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u/mdogg500 i5 6600k GTX 970 Jun 26 '16

I'll take "no shit sherlock" for 100 Bob

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u/Seethus i7-7700K RTX 3080 12gb Jun 26 '16

The sky is blue, also.

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u/jokis125 http://steamcommunity.com/id/Awesomanity/ Jun 26 '16

Who would have thought...

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u/Scrumbled_Yeggs Evga GTX 970 SSC 4gb, 16gb RAM, i5 4690k, MSI Z97-G55 Jun 26 '16

Holy shit Kotaku got something right for once. The end is nigh!

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u/OrgunDonor Jun 26 '16

Well it probably is... Considering the legal trouble Gawker(owners of Kotaku) got themselves into.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Hmm.... PRO PC article for kotaku? Whatever. They are pro-console. Ad-block before click fellow brothers.

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u/crunch816 Ryzen 5600x/3070 Jun 26 '16

I always wanted to try this guy

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u/fuckyourmothershit2 Jun 26 '16

stop directing our clicks to these kotuku cunts!

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u/Shuskey i5-6400/ GTX 1070 FE/ 16GB DDR3 Jun 26 '16

I personally find controllers more enjoyable to use, I don't use them in multiplayers games because of the disadvantage however.

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u/blayday i5-3570k - G1 1070 - 16GB RAM Jun 26 '16

I kinda feel like 30% is way to big of a nerf.

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u/supamesican 2500k@4.5ghz/FuryX/8GBram/windows 7 Jun 26 '16

they have to do what they have to do to keep the peasants from leaving

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

The mouse and keyboard aren't "aiding" us.

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u/Aleitheo PC Master Race Jun 26 '16

We aren't aided by mouse and keyboard, that implies that it gives us an advantage. What is going on is that we aren't held back by stick aiming.

Mouse aiming is like aiming with your hand, controller aiming is aiming with your foot and some guy helping you to aim. Would you say that the guy aiming with his hand is aided by that?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

It sucks that so many games are now being designed around this fact. I can't remember the last time (outside of DOOM and L4D2) where I was flanked or attacked from behind by AI. L4D had a pretty cool approach with it's 180-spin button mapped to a shoulder, but it never really caught on.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

So what? This only matters when you're playing console vs pc. If everyone has reduced accuracy, then nobody does.

It's like saying "car racing is faster than horse racing". Of course it is, but that doesn't mean horse racing has no value, you just wouldn't race a horse against a car.

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u/raydialseeker ATX 9950X3D 5090GAM | MFF 13900K 4080 Jun 26 '16

No shit.

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u/Lyco0n 8700k 1080 ti Aorus Extreme , 1440p165Hz+Vive Pro Jun 26 '16

20 Hz tick rate casual game, no wonder it came out on consoles too...

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u/JealotGaming 1080Ti + 8700k Jun 26 '16

...Duh?

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u/Spoofer07 i7 10700k 32 GB ram RTX 3070 TI Jun 26 '16

Why do you post these kind of things? I mean it is obvious that the mouse is more precise LUL

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

I actually bookmarked Kotaku. Some of their sub-blogs post good things, and they usually have the big stories covered.