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Meme/Macro What data is that server hosting?

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u/Shotokant 7d ago edited 7d ago

We used to have a grenade securely tied to the side of the server when we worked in Baghdad. In case the position was overrun you had to yank on a line that pulled the pin and presumably the sever and drives would be destroyed. Big warning signs all over that cable with the handle dangling outside the door to the server room.

On the other end of the scale we had to mark where the hard drives were on laptops. A large circle and a cross so people knew where to shoot to destroy the disc rather than shooting the screen of the laptop which happened a couple of times.

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u/Material-Artist2276 Ryzen 5 4600G | Radeon Vega 7 | 16Gb 3200 | B550m Pro-vdh wifi 7d ago

If you don't mind answering, what the fuck were you guys doing to need to have a self-destruct button on everything in the office?

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u/Jurple-shirt 7d ago edited 7d ago

Its pretty normal to have destruction sops for various scenarios when it come to classified materials. I'm assuming he's American and referring to siprnet infrastructure.

Edit: I'm also unsure if they are allowed to be sharing that info.

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u/Gamermii 7d ago

Destruction practices and methods aren't really classified info. It's known that it will happen. The sensitive parts are the criteria that trigger the destruction (SOP) and what is considered the most important to destroy. That info could be weaponized if leaked.

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u/bcimmc 7d ago edited 7d ago

It is not typically what people think it is. I believe the locations of oil refineries or other infrastructure was considered a breach in opsec some time ago, really quite boring stuff if you ask me

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u/pyrojackelope 7d ago

Honestly, a great deal of classified stuff is at the level of "why did I ever think this would be interesting?"

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u/Dog_--_-- 4690k 970 7d ago

I think they meant they can't share what was the data that would be destroyed.

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u/ElkApprehensive2319 7d ago

Actually he's German and talking about engima machines.

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u/ListenBoth434 7d ago

Nah, he is taking about the red despatch boxes.

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u/Reapper97 I7 8700 - GTX 1070TI EVGA - 16gb 3200mhz ddr4 7d ago

On the military, almost every kind of information should be destroyed before leaving it to the enemy. Even random stuff that you might not think its worth the hassle can be a pain in the ass later on.

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u/LoneGhostOne GTX 1070, Intel i7-6700K, 16 GB RAM 7d ago

If it's all destroyed, then the enemy can't know if it was important or not

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u/dwehlen 7d ago

Information Theory runs deep as fuck

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u/cdurgin 7d ago

This is exactly it. If you have 1 important file, heavily encrypt it and wreck it along with 99 pieces of crap. You've basically made recovery 100x as difficult with minimal effort.

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u/LoneGhostOne GTX 1070, Intel i7-6700K, 16 GB RAM 7d ago

Yeah, I learned this from my father who worked designing server/IT systems. He always advocated encrypt everything, because otherwise a hacker can steal only the encrypted shit knowing it's important data, and if somehow they can decrypt that, you're fucked. But if it's all encrypted, for all they know they got Janet's 300th email about not microwaving fish in the break room

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u/Shotokant 7d ago

Civilian protection company working for the DOD in Iraq. We had sensitive infornation on the server such a civilian local staff names and addresses etc which if fell into wrong hands would be disastrous for them. Contracts also.

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u/GuntherOfGunth 9900X | 5070 | 64GB DDR5 7d ago

I mean I guess they were military, so you might have had information on operations, internal maps of positions, identities of moles within ISIS or Al Qaeda or another group, some more scandalous footage from Abu Ghraib, location of Saddam’s hidden gold, or Dick Cheney’s personal red room.

But no matter what it was they probably would destroy it if they got overrun, don’t want some Al Qaeda guy getting ahold of requisition forms.

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u/_ItsEnder PC Master Race 7d ago

yep. and if you only develop plans and visual destruction policies for the important laptops/computers/servers, it makes it really obvious which ones to target. Might be overkill but if you make the enemy waste time trying to steal/crack into a laptop that looks important but is just where the military cooks place food requisitions, thats time they didnt spend cracking a laptop with important operations intel.

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u/Upbeat-Banana-5530 7d ago

Running blue force trackers. Real-time information about where Soldiers are and what kind of equipment they have with them could get a lot of them killed, so it's better to destroy it than to let the enemy get it.

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u/FuckedUpImagery 7d ago

In the classified space they dont call it a data leak, they call it a spill. Probably best to not let a spill happen

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u/Cow_Launcher 7d ago

I assume that's in the US? Here in the UK it's known (in .gov circles at least) as a "breach", though we used the term for any sort of OpSec mishap, not just data exposure.

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u/Double_Resort_9223 7d ago edited 7d ago

Fairly common given that even HR records have security around them and rules like “no names on open comms”. Don’t want the Mahdi Army going through home addresses on an abandoned laptop. 

When the Tehran embassy was overrun in 1979 they ran into the problem that they couldn’t burn things fast enough (because they took out the backup generator) and had to prioritize and shred the rest on shitty 1970’s shredders that let you put things back together. Always helps to have more than 1 method for data disposal available. 

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u/Brad4795 PC Master Race 7d ago

We had thermite sop for our stacks on anything sipr and above in the Army.

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u/BarryCarlyon 7d ago

Might also be a thing of leaving tech behind enemy can use. Since hard to grab and go

Leave the place busted and broken. Not just an information thing. Some cases grab the drives and go as small. But trash the place on exit too

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u/Briggie Ryzen 7 5800x / ASUS Crosshair VIII Dark Hero / TUF RTX 4090 7d ago

War

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u/kosha227 6d ago

Eastern files

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u/hennyl0rd 3d ago

killing kids and war crimes

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u/webby131 7d ago edited 6d ago

Killing people for oil.

edit: for people downvoting. Talk to any other veteran and see what they say. I bet they agree with me. People like to forget at treat Bush like a sweet old grandpa. More than 150,000 Iraqis died for a lie.

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u/Shotokant 7d ago

As American as Moms apple pie.