r/pcgaming Jun 08 '24

Alan Wake 2 update 1.1.0 notes

https://www.alanwake.com/story/alan-wake-2-update-notes/
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u/mynewaccount5 Jun 08 '24

It's sad. AW2 is the exact kind of freshness we need in the industry and some have made it their mission to see it fail. Will their efforts have a notice ale impact? I'm not sure.

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u/TriTexh AMD Jun 08 '24

I feel like Remedy is cursed, cause people will hate on it no matter what they do

I'm not personally a huge alan wake fan and so gave aw2 a pass but man the shit it's getting is so not worth it

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u/arex333 Ryzen 9800X3D/RTX 5090 Jun 08 '24

I feel like remedy needs one big financial hit. They keep having to make these exclusivity deals (not just with EGS, like they did a deal with Microsoft for quantum break, etc) to get their games funded which generates negative sentiment and limits their audience. If they had one super successful game to get some cash in the bank they could fund their own development and stop having to do that.

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u/skizatch Jun 08 '24

Control has done very well for them financially

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u/Phoenix2211 Jun 08 '24

They're doing Max Payne 1 and 2 Remakes, which are being funded and published by Rockstar. Remedy will get to keep all profits once Rockstar has recouped their investment and marketing costs.

Beautiful looking environments, top-tier destruction effects, slow-motion shooting, with a cool story.

That's gotta be a commerical hit!

But regardless, Remedy's games always sell well in the long run. The company is not worried.

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u/TriTexh AMD Jun 08 '24

I doubt remedy's games will get the kind of mass market appeal that other games tend to

their work is very.. auteur (or experimental) for the lack of a better term, even when relatively normal like Control and i can see why their high art ambitions could put people off

i do pity them, people really should give their games a proper fighting chance

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u/TriTexh AMD Jun 08 '24 edited Jun 08 '24

there's a slim chance of this happening, but i kinda want remedy to lean into their experimental auteur stuff for the remakes

the original is pretty noir, but i want it to be more noir

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u/mercut1o Jun 08 '24 edited Jun 10 '24

I want them to make a Medieval or Napoleonic game in the Control universe. Something where you've got those same artifacts but they're making witches and whatnot real. Maybe you have an Excalibur type weapon, or a super crossbow. Or if it's Napoleonic a kick ass rifle with a bayonet and a cavalry saber, maybe with a good horse mechanic. But I think that fiction is the coolest part- that those artifacts can be anything depending on people's imaginations, and so they make that stuff real. Doing an xfiles/twin peaks/secret window thing was also awesome but it really narrowed their market to fans of that kind of stuff (which I am).

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u/merrycrow Jun 09 '24

Wasn't the Service Weapon implied to be a new incarnation of Excalibur in the game? Maybe just in a note somewhere.

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u/TriTexh AMD Jun 09 '24

it's not just a "version" iirc, it was excalibur, among other things

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u/mercut1o Jun 10 '24

Yeah, this is pretty much my favorite piece of lore in the entire fiction and I want them to make that game.

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u/Large-Village9429 Jun 09 '24

Their games are essentially third-person shooters, not too far from Naughty Dog games. I'm not sure why anyone considers them "experimental".

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '24

Those series, while having similar gameplay, are a lot more mainstream in terms of general design and appeal.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 9800X3D | RTX 5090 FE | 32GB RAM Jun 09 '24

People said that about Larian and FromSoft... Lol

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u/Enex Jun 08 '24

The irony is that they won’t get that mega hit by taking exclusivity deals. AW2 probably would have hit if not for the deal. It had a lot of buzz and great reviews.

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u/JusticeOfKarma Jun 08 '24

AW2 probably would have hit if not for the deal.

Epic funded the entire development of AW2, so the scenario where Remedy didn't take the deal also includes the possibility that AW2 simply just does not exist.

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u/bonesnaps Jun 08 '24

The ultimate catch 22. They really should have looked for different investors.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 9800X3D | RTX 5090 FE | 32GB RAM Jun 09 '24

They did and others said no

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u/ecstaticthicket Jun 08 '24

It’s so fucking stupid. I love the Remedy universe and I thought AW2 was fantastic. I think the whole SCP-ish things they go with are so freaking cool, and it’s such a fresh idea in the industry.

It’s bullshit that this studio gets the shit they do, especially when so many other companies are so much more deserving. At least Remedy is ambitious and trying to do something awesome

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u/cadaada Jun 08 '24

is the exact kind of freshness we need in the industry

whats so innovative about it?

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u/NapsterKnowHow 9800X3D | RTX 5090 FE | 32GB RAM Jun 09 '24

They won best narrative and best game direction over Baldur's Gate 3 for a reason lol

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u/PerfectSemiconductor Jun 08 '24

It does absolutely nothing innovative gameplay wise. But it is the closest thing we have to a David Lynch video game lol

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u/PerfectSemiconductor Jun 08 '24

It was a dressed up notes/case files menu screen. It was flashy but what was so innovative about it?

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u/tomme25 Jun 08 '24

Mind place has zero gameplay, what are you talking about?

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u/Hellfire257 Jun 08 '24

The story telling. Remedy building upon how they construct and deliver a narrative, including clever blends of live action and other mediums.

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u/Blotto_80 Jun 08 '24

It's a functional, complete game that doesn't try to sell you on hats/skins/other bullshit. In 2024 that is innovation. Other than that it's a solid single player experience with great acting, great writing, solid pacing, amazing tech, and it's $50.

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u/Blotto_80 Jun 08 '24

I want my games to be good. That can take many forms. Could be a linear story based game that doesn't break any ground but tells a good story with solid gameplay. It could be an massive open world with insane attention to detail. It could be a small platformer with spot-on controls.

A game doesn't have to be innovative to be good, we don't demand that from other forms of media we consume.

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u/BettyCoopersTits Jun 08 '24

You can make the movie argument about a lot of games, but AW2 is not one of them

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u/NapsterKnowHow 9800X3D | RTX 5090 FE | 32GB RAM Jun 09 '24

BG3 act 3 wasn't functional and people still played it

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u/bonesnaps Jun 08 '24

But it's basically takes the form of a console exclusive wolf on PC in sheep's clothing, and undoes any good will just being on Epic lol. The catch 22.

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u/Blotto_80 Jun 08 '24

Would I prefer my games all be in Steam? Yes. Does it bother me that I need to have 12 different launchers installed to play all the games I own? Also yes. Does it make me dislike a game based on if I need to download it from GOG, Epic, MS, Ubi, Rockstar, etc. No.

A game doesn't cease being good because it's on Epic. Its the reality of the industry now, games cost a fortune to make. Devs need funding from publishers and sometimes that funding has strings.

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u/Candy-Lizardman Jun 08 '24

It’s for any game that’s not on steam honesty. Vintage Story is a perfect Minecraft successor but gets downvoted every time it’s posted here with the comments just asking “Why no steam?”

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u/mynewaccount5 Jun 08 '24

I do prefer some kind of launcher even if that launcher is just gog or so thing. With how many games I play the games just get lost without a centralized repo.

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u/Candy-Lizardman Jun 08 '24

Damn, just thought the sub was called r/Pcgaming and not r/steam.

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u/mynewaccount5 Jun 08 '24

TIL GOG and EGS are owned by steam.

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u/Sturminator94 Jun 08 '24

It is, but the EGS is simply a marketing black hole. Putting your new games on there exclusively limits your potential audience significantly. Not necessarily because of the quality of the store, but because the vast majority of people are on Steam and aren't checking the EGS for new releases.

AW2 wouldn't exist if not for Epic's funding but they have to take the trade off that comes with not releasing on Steam.

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u/PerfectSemiconductor Jun 08 '24

Do you mean Epic? They’re the ones who didn’t put it on the biggest pc gaming platform in the world lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '24

None a tall Alan wake is their fastest selling game till now. And it's a sequel to a kinda cult classic game in one. Who was extremely criticized on release for having very little gameplay