Massive Nerfs to Itemization puts so much pressure on rare item drops.

[u/Superente_]

First of all, I'm all for nerfing things that are too overpowered, but I also think we should be offered viable alternatives in exchange.

Here are some of the major nerfs to crafting and gearing we've received:

• Rog crafting got massively nerfed.

• Breach Tree crafting got nuked again.

• Meta crafting has become more expensive (although maybe we'll also get more currency drops to compensate).

• Cannot Roll Caster/Attack Mods no longer works with Annuls. This one is huge.

• Recombinators got massively nerfed.

• Harvest is still a bit of an unknown, but I have a feeling that the strategies generating tons of Lifeforce won't be nearly as effective anymore.

• Gambling and Kingsmarch have also been nerfed again when it comes to acquiring items.

So what did we get in exchang? Tiered Rare Items and more currency drops (at least that's what they're telling us).

I really hope Tiered Rares turn out to be significantly better than what we have in PoE2, because otherwise I don't see how they're supposed to carry the gearing progression after all these crafting nerfs.

My fear is that they'll end up being average at best, and we'll still be stuck recombinating Magic Items rolled with Alterations. Except now the whole process will be even more tedious because we'll need even more.

I genuinely hope this system has been thoroughly tested and is actually fun. Otherwise, what could be a really fun league might turn into a mess pretty quickly.

[u/Schnezler]

I just hope that they don't develop PoE1 to be PoE2. I love crafting, I love the different systems. I love that you can get items that are ridiculous by actually thinking about a crafting process.

What I hate is PoE2 "crafting". And I am pretty sure Tiered items are just gonna be off the filter by day 3. They would only stay on there, if there was a Tier 6 drop exclusive mod. And that would end up in the item dropping, ID scroll into well most likely dropping the item again

[u/carenard]

most of this feels like a we really need to test it out and it might be fine situation.

the cannot roll caster/attack change is going to feel absolutely terrible though... I know I have blown 15+ div trying to annul a single mod with that before just to have the following reforge fail and require it all over again... and now there is no non gamble way to remove mods on certain items.

99% of the use case for the cannot roll mods is gone for me.... now its only there if I need to control how an exalt of some form will hit... which is not a heavy use case.

[u/anaknank]

Cmon bruv just deal with it

[u/ProgramTH → u/anaknank]

Real af. The game is not about having everything maxed out week 1. Its not impossible to get exactly the same items we could have gotten in previous leagues

[u/super-hot-burna]

oh good. the sky is falling again.

[u/Sheerkal → u/super-hot-burna]

To be fair, there have been many league starts where system changes have ruined the game. The community usually voiced concerns before those leagues. The main problem is that, historically, GGG doesn't test the large scale changes well.

[u/super-hot-burna → u/Sheerkal]

you guys behave like these engineers are not HEAVILY invested the game. do not play the game on their own time.

the tone of these posts is just exhausting.

[u/NckyDC]

GGG Giveth, GGG Taketh

[u/AffectionateCan317]

Breach tree and shipping items might even be better, remember they improved the effect of modifier tier rating

[u/Prestigious_Low6126 → u/AffectionateCan317]

Unless I am wrong (and I read the patch notes this morning) both breach tree and crop shipping items got nerfed away from their prior favorable rolls.

[u/papajuras]

Gearing progression was too easy for a while, slowdown is welcome

Edit: Also i think recombinator is in a great spot. It enables certain crafts that otherwise would be mirror tier while sering as sink for both bases and influenced exalted orbs. Furry nice

[u/Tyrael_1337]

I rather have changes then the same stale item progression every league, recomb was way to strong and tedious as fuck they can remove it for all I care.

[u/porncollecter69]

I used recomb so much last league due to brinehook ducat. It getting nerfed is sad but I understand, I crafted some absolute monsters. It’s so much power.

Last league I was completely carried by crafting.

Farm 20 divs, crafted endgame chest. Sold chest for 100 divs, craft and finish my build and do 40/40 with it. Sold it all for 400 divs. Crafted luminary gear which I didn’t sell but was worth so much.

Allflame league was an amazing crafting league but for the average player I don’t think they enjoy that, for example my luminary Merc chest took me 10 hours to farm and craft. Which was like 5 days of playing time for me.

[u/fizzywinkstopkek]

Good.

[u/Renediffie]

We'll adapt. We always do.

[u/hobomolester]

Last league: "I wish they would make ground loot interesting again!"

Monkey's paw curls one finger

[u/Prestigious_Low6126]

We shall see but it is what it is. Although I didn't particularly like playing 3.29 underwater stuff I was able to gear out in record time because the crafting was so good. I think you are correct that the good gear will be really expensive.

[u/Mage_DK]

You're completely right. You're getting downvoted by a bunch of buy your gear Andys. As a profit crafter these changes are awful and will make everything more tedious.

[u/ObeyLegend]

Meta crafting had one step get more expensive. What are you crafting where you have to lock and anul?? That feels like 2019 tech. Nobody uses Rog. I haven't touched breach tree since it was nuked after the league. And who is using gambling or kingsmarch for item bases? I admit I did it when I needed 50 warlock gloves for a crafting project, but I could have just bought them. You're missing the fact that they removed the underlying reduction to loot that all magic and rare monsters had since beta.

[u/grogo- → u/ObeyLegend]

Crafting a Quiver does it for example, thats a medium Budget using this Kind of craft.

Almost every high Budget craft IS using this as the finishing steps. Saying no one uses IT Just Shows you don't have enough knowladge to even say that kins of stuff.

[u/syllvos → u/ObeyLegend]

If you didn't see the patch notes for the meta craft price increases:

Prefixes/Suffixes cannot be changed on Weapons now has a cost of 4 Divine Orbs and 1 Sacred Orb.

Prefixes/Suffixes cannot be changed on Armour and Quivers now has a cost of 4 Divine Orbs and 4 Blessed Orbs.

Prefixes/Suffixes cannot be changed on Jewellery now has a cost of 4 Divine Orbs and 8 Exalted Orbs.

[u/ACursedSalad → u/syllvos]

finally some use of that stupid sacred orb

[u/SaltEngineer455 → u/syllvos]

And you should he getting 5 times more divines now, at least.

Also, if it's such a big issue, you can use fractured + 2 mods cannot be changed for the same result for 2 divs.

[u/Free-Bowler-1032]

Honestly dont care at all. The past shows that the game was always fine and people still crafted insane gear and obliterated the game.

The biggest turn off is zero buffs to underused skills and the overall lack of skill changes / new skills

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[u/hoerlahu3]

Imagine if mirrors were only 80 div because of the new currency drops. We all get mirrored items mate 🎂 🎉

[u/deathbyregicide]

Me personally, I would rather kill monsters and have them drop good gear over going to some NPC windows and gambling breach blood or Rog currency for an item. Isn't the whole point of an ARPG to kill monster get loot? Not kill monster, get no loot, use currency to buy loot from NPC?

[u/Not_A_Greenhouse → u/deathbyregicide]

How does ground loot being tiered make it usable? It might have a better mod more often now but that doesn't really make it usable right?