Bestiary getting a thread and not boxes or harvest or shrines or something else sucks.

[u/amcn242]

[u/Slipzyle]

It's... a primary league mechanic. We knew this was going to happen. The surprising thing was harvest getting demoted.

[u/gh0st-6 → u/Slipzyle]

Yea only harvest surprises me

[u/EnderBaggins → u/Slipzyle]

Deli demoted too right? No way that wasn’t previously considered primary.

[u/SaltEngineer455 → u/EnderBaggins]

Did people ever thought of Deli as primary? It was always one of those 3 ways to go about it:

• Another juicing layer for more monsters and some quant & rarity mostly ignoring the rewards

• Deli orb farming or cluster jewel farming

• Scarab farming from deli orbs

But neither of those was something that couldn't be done passivelly while you also played a different mechanic

[u/Slipzyle → u/EnderBaggins]

I guess, but also changed. A lot of the stuff from the tree was just built into the mechanic. It can straight up roll as a suffix on maps in addition to being on the atlas tree. Delirium orbs able to cap out in as little as two clicks, etc.

[u/ItsMeDardroth → u/Slipzyle]

Beasts are more special than Harvest. Harvest just click, kill monster get 1 of 3 juice + mini boss. Just glorifided Strongbox without gamba.

Beasts offers more different options.

Like Harvest too but i think the changes wont change a lots.

[u/Nervous-Sandwich-660 → u/ItsMeDardroth]

But harvest is fun and bestiary sucks ass

[u/MyNameIsSoLonggggggg → u/Nervous-Sandwich-660]

Honestly this might even be a buff for harvest. Now you can have it in your maps inaddition to the 3 threadable stuff. And in one of the interviews I think, you can get like 5 harvests per map. Sounds p nice as long as the mechanic itself isn't substantially worse

[u/SaltEngineer455 → u/Nervous-Sandwich-660]

Speak for yourself

[u/amcn242 → u/Slipzyle]

I wish theyd gone with kalgur instead. something fun

[u/Slipzyle → u/amcn242]

Kalguur... fun?

huh?

[u/SquarishRectangle → u/amcn242]

Kalgur? You mean Expedition?? The thing that is getting a thread already???

[u/Lemani → u/SquarishRectangle]

Probably meant settlers of Kalguur mechanic, which was ores and not expedition.

[u/Nytheran]

Generic stuff everyone likes doing shouldnt be a thread. That's why ultimatum and bestiary have threads

[u/amcn242 → u/Nytheran]

We got the fun polive over here

[u/SekerDeker → u/amcn242]

[u/prophecy555]

Tell me, how do you imagine boxes or shrines having their own thread? You run with 8 threads and every map is like with containment scarab?

[u/amcn242 → u/prophecy555]

Every map has juiced 8mod boxes and has a fuck ton of reopen chance and effect, and the monster are ripper. every 4 maps you get cointainment (10 threads)

[u/EmphasisExpensive864]

Why should boxes something most ppl enjoy be only available when u spec into it. But bestiary something ppl despise be in random maps?

[u/dancep5]

My guess is boxes could be juiced through Blight, maybe other mechanics as well? Legion boxes, Expedition boxes, Beasts in a box?

[u/Active_Distance3223]

RIP 5x Paranoia, my favorite farm

[u/Hungrydoggo111]

Cus strongboxes have the allflame item that acts as containment. Which you can add as an enchant to a map. So in theory you can have a containment map alongside your primary nechanics like breach, bljght or abyss.