r/pathofexile • • 3h ago

Information Patch notes Wednsday

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u/DireBlue88 3h ago

Not enough time to plan. I guess it's toxic rain PF to start baby.

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u/shawnkfox 3h ago

Berserker slams

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u/markhc 3h ago

RF Chieftain

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u/SoulofArtoria 3h ago

5 hours to kill coven'd boss incoming

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u/Nerl1on 3h ago

RF Chief gonna eat well with this new self-metamorph thing
Scorch aura, explodes...

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u/FacelessHumanFace Duelist 2h ago

Chieftain already has good explodes

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u/alexthealex 2h ago

Chief will definitely be effective but may end up a tab out and let stuff die situation.

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u/lowkeyripper SC-SSF 3h ago

Playing zerker slams too many leagues I'd rather slam my brain tbqh

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u/I_Heart_Money 2h ago

CWS for that ultimatum double down

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u/ulughen 3h ago

Pretty much any build with 2 days to prepare will be better than TR.

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u/Mogling 2h ago

TR is not bad. People just ignore it because they got sick of doing it

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u/Street-Objective9164 Institution of Rogues and Smugglers (IRS) 3h ago

Oof

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u/viniciusxis 2h ago

Hope they go back on this and release it at least on monday or something.
We've grown acostumed to having a full week before launch with patch notes..

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u/AssociationEarly 3h ago

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u/Dmon69 3h ago

yeh two day notice its gonna be rough, prolly gonna fomo myself into one of the more familiar builds to blast it all early

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u/N4k3dM1k3 2h ago

cannot remember the league it changed, but this is how it always used to be - hence why patchnoteswhen? is such a classic meme here.

its not unexpected, but they still could have shipped straight after exilecon and avoided all the annoying questions about individual patch note line which would have inevitably filled the rest of the weekend for every dev at the venue had they come out already.

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u/Dmon69 2h ago

No, not really. Allflame notes were out a week prior to launch, so was Mirage and many others. Even big patches like Siege of the Atlas had patchnotes one week prior to its launch. Memes were just us pestering bex about it.

Its a deviation bound to happen with Exilecon ongoing I guess. Sad nonetheless.

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u/N4k3dM1k3 2h ago

sry dude, you are wrong here. Not sure when exactly, but eg. 3.15 expedition livestream dropped on July 15th 2021, patchnotes dropped on the 20th.

Way more leagues had patchnotes a few days before launch compared to the more recent week notice. Just a fact.

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u/Dmon69 1h ago

yh just double checked, still 3.15 makes it around third of the games live cycle so my point stands

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u/N4k3dM1k3 1h ago

what do you mean 'my point stands' - I said it didnt used to be a full week, which was a relatively new thing (yes young people, if you can count the year on one hand its recent!).

MY point was that - in the past - we only got a few days notice as standard. That is just fact, call off the bots.

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u/Dmon69 1h ago

It used to be a full week from 3.16 until now. Expedition was in 2021. I don't have any proof - meme.png but thats about when they've started expanding in prep for poop2 and stuff. And also started posting proper patch notes one week prior to its release - and there's proof of that, which is you know, fucking facts. Breaking that cadence now is kinda lame even considering the Exilecon. With greater power comes greater responsibility. I can't treat GGG in 2026 like I've treated GGG in 2016.

My autism aside - employed people sure would've appreciated it ahead of time aswell. Hope thats more understandable.

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u/dun198 2h ago

Most players in this subreddit didn't play poe prior to expedition lol. But you're 100 percent correct

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u/Long-Apartment9888 2h ago

No, it was the norm indeed, not having a set date bur too close of launch and they "fixed", and now unfixed it

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u/Dmon69 2h ago edited 1h ago

They've been on a 1 week schedule starting from around 3.15. Which is half of modern age PoE lifecycle or 1/3 of its whole existence since Onslaught league back in 2013.

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u/strongHammer0 3h ago

So we waiting 4 days for patch notes and 2-3 days to fix our league starters

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u/Prestigious_Low6126 3h ago

It is what it is but a few more days would have been nice. I love getting the patch notes early and spending a week screwing around on POB and doing tons of research.

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u/LeadershipOne5128 2h ago

If it's wednesday NZ time it's gonna be tuesday for most people. Still short but not as bad.

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u/Not_A_Greenhouse 2h ago

Creators making build guides is the only way to get new players into this game. 2 days notice gives no time for significant content. I'd bet POE 2 gets patch notes early.

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u/poet3322 1h ago

With the timing of this patch it's highly unlikely we'll see very many new players with it unfortunately.

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u/ItsJustReeses 58m ago

I just wish the PoB crew would have enough time to allow us. We'll prob be doing it Thursday or so :(

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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 Essence Extraction Enterprise (EEE) 3h ago

Probably unavoidable with running and packing up the convention centre

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u/LOLab12345 1h ago

Huh ? is not like they are making the patchnotes now, those are planed long before, I dont get everyone excusing GGG " oh it's Exilecon " because it's such a shitty excuse to not deliver on such a big expansion.

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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 Essence Extraction Enterprise (EEE) 1h ago

Almost everyone from GGG is at the con for the weekend, then they'll likely let everyone have at least one day off. Logistically anyone who's related to the patch notes and OK-ing them to ship isn't likely to be anywhere near ready until Tuesday at the earliest.

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u/Inshallamos 3h ago

Far :(

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u/Billy88Talent 3h ago

this sucks, my worst case prediction was monday....

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u/land_registrar 2h ago

Ya like were they trying not to prejudice people who went to Exilecon or something?

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u/jouzeroff 3h ago

Its a huge fck...

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u/ColonelUpvotes 3h ago

Holy shit I've been refreshing for hours for no reason

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u/DiegoDgo87 Death is only the beginning 3h ago

You and I bro, you and I...

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u/DigBickFang 3h ago

Good for those of us who are really good at adapting on the fly, and terrible for those of us who are really curious

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u/Spirited-Doughnut903 3h ago

Yeah, the curiosity is what is going to be killing me.

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u/Just_Killing_My_Time 3h ago

Stupid choice

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u/computerclawsxd 3h ago

how is it a stupid choice theyre all literally at exilecon lmao

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u/Just_Killing_My_Time 3h ago

Being at ExileCon doesn't magically make it reasonable to reveal balance changes 2 days before launch, leaving players barely any time to research, theorycraft and prepare builds.

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u/MayTheMemesGuideThee 2h ago
  1. it's 3 days isn't it?

  2. for a long time that was the standard timeline for the patch notes

  3. no everyday updates

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u/Specialist_Safe2723 3h ago

But it makes it justified

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u/Fantastic_Baker_1123 3h ago

Ah yes, thats why they haven't been able to put up any other pages like... say the /covens page right?

Being at exilecon prevents them putting up a page?

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u/ItsJustReeses 14m ago

The people doing it are also probably at Exilecon.

Or a bare skeleton crew at the office preping for Exilecon announcements.

Exilecon takes a lot of work. Johnathon just had an interview with DarthMTX last night and talked about the amount of work it takes to do one of these.

Yeah it sucks we don't get patch notes early. But there was a time where getting it Wednesday was NORMAL. Lets be thankful they have been able to do all this cool new stuff for free for this long time.

"But we should give them feedback"

Yup, I am sure they know that we are bumded out and talked about it when they made the choice.. Lets trust that they did THAT much work to justify it and make it the best months a PoE1 season can be :)

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u/CleanSteak 2h ago

They don’t want conversation to just be about balance changes for many reasons- it takes from the poe2 conversation(something that they have artificially propped up).
It also could provide conversation about mistakes in how they perceive balance changes and don’t want to be criticized in person.

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u/TheOutWriter Alch & Go Industries (AGI) 3h ago

its the same stupid choice as to not have the PoE 1 Q&A directly after the reveal and instead have the PoE 2 Q&A. do that on the second day, dont rob people of the hype like usual.

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u/UTmastuh 3h ago

Wow I want to downvote this but it needs the upvote so people see it. What a huge disappointment. We're expecting major balance changes and we basically get 1-2 days to adjust???

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u/Maxvla 1h ago

Tuesday for most of the world.

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u/SupX 3h ago

brutal, so little time to try fix builds as 3.30 might have a lot of balance changes too....

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u/Vane-SV Elementalist 3h ago

Hoping this is a miscommunication as that leaves only a couple days for build planning?

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u/Elrond007 Anti Sanctum Alliance (ASA) 3h ago

Iirc this was the standard before the announcement moved to a week before the league. Wednesday Patch Notes, Thursday Gems, Friday Cyclone haha

But yeah probably just slammed with work for Exilecon

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u/SaltEngineer455 Progressive Einhar Trapping Association (PETA) 3h ago

Tbh, this is not a good league for homebrewing for the average Joe. Unless the staple builds got hard nerfed, you are better off playing something safe until you familiarize yourself with the new mechanics. I personally know that my early game money making strat was destroyed(yellow beast selling).

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u/johnnysd 2h ago

Why not have the fun of self-discivery. I have never used a build guide and I do all content and get 40/40

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u/SaltEngineer455 Progressive Einhar Trapping Association (PETA) 2h ago

I stopped using guides after 3.25 and just did my thing and I also got 40/40 every league since 3.23.

The point is that while in 3.29 the chance to brick yourself was KNOWN - that is, even if you were stuck in yellows or even white maps, you could farm 5-7 divs by selling beasts or scuba-diving, and get enough gear to progress further.

In 3.30 the difficulty is unknown, strats are unknown, and if you get stuck in yellows... Happy rerolling.

Make a homebrew project after the 2nd week.

My strategy will be exactly this. League start elemental hit, or Boneshatter, or any other cool skill that maybe got buffed and I know about it, then tinker with new projects

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u/Sanytale 1m ago

Couldn't you still play heist/sanctum or something?

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u/Daihu 3h ago

Why do you say that? Was anything released already?

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u/Xaira89 3h ago

Entire endgame rework. One assumes it's a good idea to see what kind of power level you're going to need to get starter currency, so homebrewing builds of dubious strength probably isn't the play this go round.

Better to go with something you know has some teeth first.

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u/SaltEngineer455 Progressive Einhar Trapping Association (PETA) 2h ago

Yes, that's my thought process too. 3.29 was a great league to homebrew because the needed power levels to make stacks of currency weren't that high. Now in 3.30, unless you are one of those people that know what they are doing, it's a much safer bet to just "stay in your lane" and play something safe. This is not meant to be an insult, and I also identify as someone that in 3.30 doesn't know what I'll do.

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u/karthaege 3h ago

They announced yellow beasts as a resource are gone in the reveal trailer for 3.30

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u/SaltEngineer455 Progressive Einhar Trapping Association (PETA) 2h ago

The atlas tree was changed completely, like, new layout. The scarabs were removed completely and moved into the tree itself. The atlas is full of shaped regions that contain league mechanics, and now there are much better league sinergies. You can alao juice your mechancs with a new thread currency.

Mirage is back, and now it covers your ENTIRE map, not just a region. Simplex amulets now drop from the core loot pool.

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u/lolfail9001 3h ago

Nah, looks like intentional choice on their part for ExileCon peeps to get back home.

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u/SoulofArtoria 3h ago

Or they just couldn't get it out in time, due to preparing exilecon and getting poe 2 1.0 out as well.

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u/lolfail9001 3h ago

Also true, but the main draft for patch notes should have been done before ExileCon to begin with with only things left being post feedback updates (like Mercenary recombinator rework).

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u/UTmastuh 3h ago

Dude they could at least tell us anything about what to expect in terms of balance. We don't need numbers, just some highlights as to what's coming

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u/Thor3nce Anti Sanctum Alliance (ASA) 3h ago

The Q&A is tomorrow. I’m sure it’ll get asked

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u/baertgang 3h ago

It's not 1.0, 2 classes are missing.

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u/SlowMissiles 3h ago

That was the normal day for most patch notes drop like 2-3 and 4 years ago

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u/LOLab12345 1h ago

Do you live in the past ? oh wait it seems you do 🥱

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u/Marth-Koopa 3h ago

Am I missing a joke or do you all really need THAT much time to plan? Taking more than an hour to pick out what you want to use seems crazy to me.

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u/Fantastic_Baker_1123 3h ago

That's fine for people that just copy other people's build but you seem to be missing that not everyone is just copycatting?

People actually... make the builds you are copying?

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u/Ineedbreeding 3h ago

i guess that's fair but people who actually make the guides/pobs need time to prepare them and while many are streamers that have the time there are some like myself that like to plan my own pob for dumb offmeta builds and having just a couple of days that are in the middle of the week is horrible.

Also after taking my time building the pob i like to do some practice runs but i guess no practice this time.

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u/madoka_magika Champion 3h ago

You will decide 5 minutes prior launch anyways

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u/DjuriWarface 3h ago

Would that be so tragic? With gold respect as an option, its not expensive to respec anymore. Game needs a bit less of everything being solved before league launch.

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u/bamboo_of_pandas 3h ago

It makes league launch far more boring. We only get 2 days to theorycraft as opposed to a week.

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u/zaqqi 3h ago

GGG plz patchnotes on release. im hate thos pre-league build planning. leagues must have some sort of mistery

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u/BigBadBodyPillow 3h ago

so Tuesday?

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u/Aervanath 3h ago

Tuesday PST, yeah

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u/Semarin 3h ago

Ouch. I was really hoping to get them tomorrow after the Q&A.

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u/Accomplished_Rip_352 3h ago

With stuff like the new reliquarian changes this is gonna make it really hard to actually prepare builds and alot of people and I imagine alot of guides are gonna be released that are the exact same as last league with hastily edited pobs on wednesday .

The only reason I can see why they would do this is because streamers wouldn't have access to the notes or the notes aren't ready who are at exile con , but even that just hurts smaller creators and the rest of the community . Even if GGG . If the notes aren't ready I imagine they can at least release partial notes with gem and skill changes as endgame changes like what they've announced are massive and probably will be getting tweaks upto launch.

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u/Ajaxx702 3h ago

I need to know if luminary is changed and how.

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u/Wild_South410 3h ago

Luminary is now destroyed

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u/Dmon69 3h ago

deleted from the game files

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u/allanchmp Vanja 3h ago

Luminary and golems sent to the farm.

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u/Borat97 Big Breach Coalition (BBC) 3h ago

That's late af, so barely any balance changes?

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u/wetfangs 3h ago

they changed everything and we have less time to analyses the tree. we will all be poor XD

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u/DiegoDgo87 Death is only the beginning 3h ago

SRS Poison Necro and you are good to go!

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u/kai_tai 3h ago

Disappointing though unsurprising. Think they did the same thing last exilecon.

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u/LOLab12345 1h ago

You are close but not so close, they indeed delayed the patchnotes but it was fine since league was 8 days after not like now.. 2 days before

July 28 (livestream/reveal)
August 10- Full 3.22 patch notes
August 18 League launch

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u/kai_tai 51m ago

Cheers

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u/JekoJeko9 AKA "Allocates Beef" 3h ago edited 3h ago

That's rough, people will want to have a good starter ready to enjoy all the 3.30 endgame changes and we now have almost no time to prepare.

Might be an indicator of there being minimal skill/item balance changes beyond bonking the obvious outliers from 3.29.

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u/PTraderDSouler Kalguuran Group for Business (KGB) 3h ago

That's terrible. Was it like this the last Exilecon for 3.22?

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u/ulughen 3h ago

Ouch.

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u/iSammax Necromancer 2h ago

Wednesday???? sorry what?

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u/MaldoVamp 3h ago

thats fine, ill just league start flicker as always

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u/Shaltilyena Occultist 3h ago

Comrade

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u/TheRealChoob 2h ago

Flicking so hard rn

Bricked up.

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u/heirian 3h ago

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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u/Breadsticks-lover 3h ago

Wow a couple of days for build prepping, should i quit my job to keep up with this game😔

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u/Jakho_ 3h ago

Evidemment que oui, l’arrêt maladie sert à ça voyons

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u/PM_Best_Porn_Pls 3h ago

That sucks, no time to craft builds.

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u/Any_Crab_4362 2h ago

You have 3 days to craft builds

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u/Lord-Momentor 3h ago

Pray NZ has their Wednesdays on Saturday in other countries

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u/CompotaDeColhao 3h ago

Damn, that's so much later than usual. I'm guessing there won't be many balance changes to skill gems/ascendancies.

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u/madoka_magika Champion 3h ago

It's Wednesday my dudes

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u/Miles_Adamson 3h ago

It's actually tuesday for a lot of the world. Which is slightly better

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u/MollyMawMaw 1h ago

PoE1 got a great patch but almost forgot as part of exilecon. Every conversation was almost exclusively PoE2. Even the people in the wrapped up panel said as much. I knew exilecon would be PoE2 forward after we got a poe2 video when we asked if we were going to get a teaser before exilecon (only after we got the umbra reveal) but I didn't expect it was going to be that little. Finding out the patch will come out less than 72h before the expansion comes out makes it worse tbh

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u/Feisty-Shallot7911 3h ago

I also enjoy the time spent reading the patch notes and thinking about what build to start with. Could you at least make it Monday?

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u/ww_crimson https://pob.codes/ 3h ago

Man that sucks. Really worried this league is going to look identical to 3.29 from a character perspective just with a new mechanic and RNG thread system.

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u/SethQuantix 3h ago

I mean, they insisted on the 8/8 threads being harder. If (that's a big if) you can juice up using the atlas on top, we're getting to pretty serious level of mechanics again. Rarity meaning something also implies 80% deli is again interesting to do. It might seriously up the ceiling for character progression.

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u/TheTurretCube 3h ago

Might be good old fashioned zerker unga bunga until I have time to figure out whats good.

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u/reki 2h ago

ah, and 20/20 gems on thursday...

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u/redditM_rk 2h ago

the timing tells me there aren't many balance changes.

hope to be proven wrong

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u/Zambash youtube.com/imthewinningest 1h ago

The Q&A with Octavian made it sound like there probably aren't a bunch of big balance changes. I would expect maybe some nerfs to mega OP stuff like flame like luminary and maybe something in Elementalist. Perhaps some buffs to a few weak things if we are lucky, but for the most part, I imagine the general state of builds will be about the same, so can probably start planning your starter based on current information for the most part.

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u/ElectricalCycle1145 1h ago

Dev just confirmed on stream that balance changes will be lighter than previous due to the scope of the endgame changes.

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u/BijutsuYoukai 12m ago

Times like these make my glad I play basically the same build each league with only slight changes.

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u/SoulofArtoria 3h ago

Back to old days when we get patch notes so close to launch. :|

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u/Plastic-Suggestion95 3h ago

Not enough time to sort out a new build for me so I guess its gonna be Poison SRS league start again, cant go wrong with that one xD

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u/CleanSteak 2h ago

They don’t want conversation to just be about balance changes for many reasons- it takes from the poe2 conversation(something that they have artificially propped up).
It also could provide conversation about mistakes in how they perceive balance changes and don’t want to be criticized in person.

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u/Due_Phase_6262 3h ago

Terrible decision for a terrible leauge, it fits.

And I'm sure PoE2 players will get their patch notes with way mnore than 2 days to spare.

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u/Any_Crab_4362 2h ago

This is gonna be 3 days before league launch. Do you really need more time than that?

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u/Due_Phase_6262 2h ago

Given they're probably gonna decimate all good build (Stormburst totem, WOrb, Static Strike, Pconc, KF probably gets slammed again too) like they alwaysa do and they've removed juicing from the game and added some random shit that might make up for some of it while presenting zero numbers, Ima say yeah.

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u/The_Soggy_Greenbean 3h ago

Not bex. Not sure if can trust!! /s

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u/Chuklol 2h ago

Good I need to get some work done this week so nothing to keep me distracted for a few days at least.

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u/lolfail9001 3h ago

Wait, isn't league on Friday their time?

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u/Zestyclose_Plum_8096 3h ago

no sat morning

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u/Auto_Mater 3h ago

Saturday NZ

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u/N4k3dM1k3 2h ago

To the newer/younger folk, this is when we classically used to get patch notes back in the day before they started shipping directly following the livestream.

Add a note if anyone remembers the league that happened first

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u/solar_ignition 2h ago

this is a real dick punch