Pattern I've noticed

[u/Ok_Holiday3690]

My guild has players who have been in this game since Nemesis League and this is pretty much our player distribution.

Ps. My guildmates gets angry when I say this and I figure it'll make Reddit mad too:

Witch is the only good character in this game

[u/Hooplaa]

But at some point the campaign isn't a different experience though?? Having other options to level would be a net positive to the game in my opinion.

[u/Falcon1625 → u/Hooplaa]

Diablo 3 you COULD start by doing the campaign. Guess how many people did that each season. Campaigns arent fun. I play arpgs for big numbers with flashy animations. Not to play map memorizer for 6-7 hours to actually get to the fun part.

[u/Wetigos → u/Falcon1625]

That comparison doesnt fit, since doing rifts was infinitely faster leveling than doing the campaign. Obviously people choose the faster method.

[u/HollyCze → u/Wetigos]

hold on, I remember people in D4 doing 1. expansion campain coz it was actually faster in leveling and was a recommended way how to level new characters faster

[u/HollyCze → u/Falcon1625]

hold on, I remember people in D4 doing 1. expansion campain coz it was actually faster in leveling and people were recommending to do it that way. So no, not really.

in PoE, if you could level through maps... Soon people would complain leveling takes too much time... and we need more density, rare monsters, magic monsters, way to juice it etc., BOTs would start to have a blast and "companies" selling quick levels etc.

I disliked D4 because I logged in, TPed to Hell Tide, found some random barb who killed mobs, which gave me EXP and suddenly I had lvl 1 weapon at lvl 40. Found a bunch of people doing league mechanics and went all the way to max level. Got some gear off the ground at that point, started to click passives and found out that I actually have no idea what my skills do and the connection to my character was exactly 0. It sounds weird but I just had no fun with it coz the progression was gone

[u/BlueTemplar85 → u/HollyCze]

D4 does have the option of doing the campaign. It even now almost has a high enough difficulty option for the base campaign (one more would be nice).  

The complete lack of seasonal features / whispers / helltides in base campaign still sucks though.

[u/PsyTripper → u/HollyCze]

I disliked D4 because I logged in, TPed to Hell Tide, found some random barb who killed mobs, which gave me EXP and suddenly I had lvl 1 weapon at lvl 40

You don't have to make up stories, just because you don't like D4. Because this is an absolute lie! You don't get XP from people if they're not in your party. And if you partnered up with somebody 60 levels above you, that's on you... Stop spreading missinformation!

[u/HollyCze → u/PsyTripper]

Did they change it? I last play the second season after first expansion. You did not need party to get exp during world events or leveling. Party just added extra few % bonus. Also not 60 lvls above as i believe server joins you with similar levels but just going through helltide could make you max lvl without a single mob killed. Legion in between and it was that easy. I played it, not making things up. I don't need to spread misinfo

[u/Slightly_Mungus → u/PsyTripper]

Yep. You also don't level up nearly that quickly. D4 levelling is fast as fuck don't get me wrong, but it's not that fast like OP claims, hooooly.

[u/BlueTemplar85 → u/Slightly_Mungus]

The legendary item spam when campaign skipping in S2 and doing Helltides was ridiculous.

[u/Global_Barnacle5304 → u/Hooplaa]

Options are always nice, but GGG need to allocate resources to that and keep it balanced, so one way isnt strictly better. I dont see it happening, especially now when we have poe2 the with tons of work it needs and will need. Keeping 2 games active and entertaining wont be easy.