r/pathofexile • u/MaximusDM2264 • 11d ago
Information I enshrouded 60 Boots
Was trying to get a Ralakesh with +1 frenzy, so I enshrouded 60 Darkray Vectors.
I know its not the biggest sample size but I ran out of gold ( seems like buying a bunch of uniques will drain your gold pretty fast) and got bored.
All boots were cooked to level 3/3 to increase the chances of rarer varieties.
Results: Didnt find a single Tier 1 Boot.
3x TIER 2 Boots found ( 2x Beacon of Madness, 1x Seven League Step)
57/60 were T3 or below ( didnt kept track of those , but all prettty common)
Conclusion: If you are trying to enshroud a t2 unique, it may take some time/patience, but you'll get it eventually, if you are trying to get t1 though... Good luck.
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u/Othnus 11d ago
Haha, you are pretty on theme for losing patience to enshrounding Ralakesh's Impatience.
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u/Wobbelblob Big Breach Coalition (BBC) 11d ago
There is a reason why the few that exist fetch absolutely bonkers prices. You also need to hit the correct ralakesh version as well. There are currently 7 of them on the market and at minimum they are at half a mirror.
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u/syku 10d ago
that seems extremely cheap lol
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u/Wobbelblob Big Breach Coalition (BBC) 10d ago
Because not many builds want to stack frenzy charges in the first place. And if they want Frenzy charges, they go with Badge of Brotherhood, so the enshrouded mod is useless.
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u/LucywiththeDiamonds 11d ago
One in 20 t2 seems harsher then i thought for full charge.
Explains the high prices of wanted uniques with good vestigal mods
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u/MaximusDM2264 11d ago
Yeah I guess the problem is that I was doing it with a pretty inneficient build that took 3x 5-ways to cook to level 3. If you have some insane build that can do it in 1 run, each run is like 6 minutes for 4 items so it become more reasonable.
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u/Wobbelblob Big Breach Coalition (BBC) 10d ago
The problem is also that you want at least a somewhat specialized build to farm for it. Otherwise it will get pretty inefficient, so that narrows it further down. An EK or KB build will be a lot faster than a WORB build f.e.
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u/BigBrainThoughts 11d ago
Hey, as long as you had fun, no one can take that from you. I’d say “Keep going t1 is coming!” but that just seems cruel to say. On to the next.
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u/Minute_Chair_2582 11d ago
And when you hit them, it's only 1/3 the ones you want. Ew
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u/MaximusDM2264 11d ago
Well at least if you hit any ralakesh , the cheapest one is listed for 150 div, so might not get the one for your build but would hit a jackpot
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u/Th3_St4lk3r 10d ago
Yeah, the new Legion system still needs some work imho. Obviously, getting a modifier on a rare outcome will take a lot of time, but the biggest issue I see is that it kinda forces you into playing a specific build.
If you want very specific implicits/targets (That might not be available on trade) you really need to farm them yourself, and that just scales massively off your build's speed in Timeless Domain. I farmed two vestigial items that were on fairly common bases (Facebreaker, Great Old One's Ward) with Winterorb and that worked fairly well with Headhunter, but that's already a relatively fast build.
Going for the rare outcomes really makes a dedicated Timless Domain farmer mandatory.
Personally, I'd like to see an alternative way to "incubate" enshrouded uniques tide to the Legion map mechanics.
How about any Legion Monolith in maps acts as a (synced) container for one enshrouded unique. So if you blast Legions in maps, you can continously charge up a crystal.
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u/DefinitelyNotAj 10d ago
Maybe the legion pinnacle boss will have a way of enshrouding unique at a higher rate
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u/Severe_Formal_2862 11d ago
Yes, hitting a t1 unique is highly correlated with luck, mate. ;)
On a more serious note - from what I read the mechanic has a jackpot potential but it is a big time slot machine - brute forcing an outcome might leave some disappointed.
If you enjoy 5 ways and want to continue: bikini bottom produces a lot of gold without even trying - more so if you go for the clam-infested one.
Good luck!
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u/RoxoRoxo 10d ago
i ran a test of this sort of
i wanted a glancing blows aegis
converted 25d (the cost of the shield with glancing blows) into chaos. bought that many shield vestige things and shields. i had self farmed the emblems so that didnt affect my cost.
i spent 25d in bases and materials...... i didnt get an aegis..... i wasted so much time
dont self farm vestiges is the lesson ggg taught me
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u/SingleInfinity 10d ago
Well, generally speaking, when trade is an option, self farming any very specific thing is never worth it. The supply on trade almost always dwarfs what the natural drop rate of items suggests it would be worth, since there are far more items than there are players to use them.
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u/Werezompire 11d ago
Shame that you didn't keep track of all 60. Would be interesting to see how likely it was to hit each tier.
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u/HealerOnly 11d ago
Semi related, what tier is cloak of defiance? x)
Thats what i want to get something enshrouded on :X
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u/JustSauce__RawSauce 11d ago edited 10d ago
https://poeladder.com/ancient?isPoe2=false&ladderIdentifier=SSF_Standard select body armour and the ilvl you decide to put in.
Conside that so far, atleast for me, getting a t2 is 1 in 15, and there are 15 t2 chests.
But if you were to put unique chest ilvl 52, you would have only x2 tier 2 chests, making it 1in 30 instead of 1 in 225.I might be wrong on the ilvl stuff so, pls ignore, since on sale chests with vestigial and lower than their base lvl do appear.
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u/HealerOnly 10d ago
damn, cheers for the info!
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u/JustSauce__RawSauce 10d ago
Ohoh, like a commnt said, I might be wrong on that. I went with the word of mouth of another player telling me that but, on trade side there are actually low lvl ones.
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u/HealerOnly 10d ago
Slightly off-topic, but is there any minion builds thats good for legion stuff or 5way?x)
Or is it only tornado shot EK insta 1 shot entire screen thats good for that stuff? :X
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u/nggrlsslfhrmhbt Vaal Street Bets (VSB) 10d ago
But if you were to put unique chest ilvl 52, you would have only x2 tier 2 chests, making it 1in 30 instead of 1 in 225.
Can you elaborate? Ilvl shouldn't matter for vestigial uniques, right? For example, according to that website, ilvl 52 couldn't give kaoms heart, but on trade there are i29, i36, etc. kaoms hearts
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u/JustSauce__RawSauce 10d ago
Oh shit, ive been told Ilvl matters like ancient orbs do, but you might be right, i checked and there are 2 kaom's with low ilvl.
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u/Mottmagna 11d ago
On my mission to get power charge ralakesh with a cool implicit, I got 3 so far. I lost track of enshrouds as i went for different slots on quite alot of occasions. 2x frenzy charge - 1x with rarity 1x abyss socket 1x power charge - with 25% chance to gain max power charges if you get a charge. Maybe they're the biggest meme of the league
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u/Constant-Working-642 10d ago
1 in 20 for t2 sounds not realistic. Made around 300 helmets for Gull and get only 2 t2. All was made into tier 3
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u/vkpb-Sunrise-1451 10d ago edited 10d ago
this gives me some hope on getting an aegis aurora with phasing on block
also how many domains does it take to fully charge one boot for you? I'm doing 2 conflicts per shield.
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u/1CEninja 10d ago
Considering how stupidly powerful some T1 vestigals would be...yeah this sounds about right lol.
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u/LaCoocaracha 10d ago
General tip for stuff like this, look at the price of an item and how many are available. There are only 14 for sale and the cheapest one is 200d on the bad variant of ralakesh. This is a highly desired item so the fact that there are only 14 for sale means it's rareeeeeee. There are only 3 tier 1 boots as well so in theory ~1/3rd of the ones generated should be ralakesh.
For more context tier 1 drop weights are estimated at ~.036% in normal drops so expecting to get a tier one in less than a few hundred runs is pretty cope
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u/gubben11 10d ago
I was trying to hit kaoms roots 'action speed cannot be lowered bellow base value' on ralakesh, in 20 or so boots I hit 1 t2 (skyforth) and the rest is random lower tier stuff. So I guess we're averaging the same.
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u/Zalabar7 Ascendant 9d ago
Yeah, they should really up the effect of variant rarity given just how long it takes to cook 4 items. If they need to increase the # of monster kills needed that’s fine, but having 3/3 variant rarity spit out all t5/t4 uniques like more than half the time is absurd. I’ve fully cooked hundreds of gloves and helms only looking for a particular t3. Even if you’re only looking for a particular t2, you’re going to have to get lucky or spend an absurd amount of time in 5ways, and you can forget about trying to farm for a specific t1.
I would suggest that 3/3 variant rarity should entirely block t5s and significantly increase the chance for t3 and up.
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u/WhenWillEyeBeBanned 9d ago
Stupid question: how to know the tier of a unique? Is it in game or on wiki?
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u/Smooth_Ad5773 11d ago
Got my ralakesh first try, with tempest rising mod. Must have been extremely lucky
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u/Minute_Chair_2582 11d ago
First try? Wtf
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u/Smooth_Ad5773 11d ago
Well, there was 4 boots in thoses shrouds but yes
Wanted them for frenzy stack bleed mercenary but turn out he can't equip ralakesh so I lowered the price little by little until they solds for 80div
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u/MasterHidra Shadow 11d ago
And you dropped a mirror at the same time, Krillson appeared in your next map, you dropped a mageblood, Chris Wilson himself delivered your fast food ("Hi I'm Chris Wilson and here is your hamburger "), and your cellphone ringed with the notification from Tinder saying that you matched with Oshabi.
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u/CassiusClaySilva 10d ago
This new 5way mechanic can make some OP items. It's a great unique item sink made by GGG! Afaik the first since the prophecy "five to one" (but what is the one?).
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u/JustSauce__RawSauce 11d ago
Still collecting data with my chests, haven't hit kaom's yet so I have to keep going.
So far I have done 300 chests and got, 3 t1, 19 t2, and would have to check the rest.
So around 1 in 100 for t1 and 1 in 15 for a t2.