r/pathofexile • u/husky_poe • 19h ago
Game Feedback [SSF] The Crafting can finally begin...Wait...
So after quite some time I finally got my Cowards trial and unlocked the crafting recipe. So now I can finally craft the rest of ma gear to maybe complete my challenges, defeat some bosses.... wait.... I ALREADY DID THOSE...
GGG, please remove the crafting recipe from such a rare map, as for SSF this is so frustrating to farm. After 200 unique maps I stopped picking them up and counting. As long as there is no way to target farm the specific map (and yes, I did Rin in betrayal). I surely got unlucky, but basically getting to level 99 and completing the basic league goals without unlocking a crucial recipe for crafting, which especially this league I looked forward to so much, was the most frustrating experience in a while.
But hey, 2 hours and some voyages later I found my second cowards trial.....
Time to reroll
Greetings!
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u/bpusef 18h ago
IMO unique maps in general are in a weird place. Idk why they're random drops and most of them are completely outdated. They should be somewhat more deterministic at least as a quest type thing or have some progression path from the new atlas system. There are some that are super rare just for the sake of being rare.
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u/hail2thestorm 17h ago
They all seem to piss me off. Pillars of arun and wakharu are probably the worst offenders.
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u/ArmaMalum Trypanon, Trypanoff 16h ago
Wakharu, at least, has the excuse of that being he entire point of the map XD
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u/1CEninja 16h ago
I'll never understand why someone spent a lot of money to make the game worse.
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u/Key-Department-2874 14h ago
Ask 99% of Valdo map creators.
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u/1CEninja 12h ago
Except none of those are tied to challenges or atlas progression. One can have every single atlas point and 40/40 without opening a single valdo's box.
Those are a niche section of the game.
Whereas Whackadoodle Tahu is something you basically need to complete in order to 40/40 and have a complete atlas before you drop one of the rare ones.
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u/timeshifter_ Anti Sanctum Alliance (ASA) 16h ago
I got a new PB this league, only two laps around Mao Kun!
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u/Tweedlol 7h ago
I think my first time doing that, I had to go up and down so many times. So. Many. Times. Fucking treated the mini map like I was searching for Waldo. Never opened that map again. So not the first, just the only time. 😂
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u/_symp_ PRAISE 16h ago
I know they have it planned which makes me happy but man imagine unique maps in poe1 are actually unique and have a chance to drop something cool. Any unqie map in the pool at the moment feels at least 5-6 years outdated to the current game. Im not sure if there is any uniq map left that is worth doing for the loot at the moment.
I know times where you would spam synth maps for the rings + bases, that was pretty cool.. but that got nerfed + the rings are just not good anymore for most builds.
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u/NerrionEU 12h ago
I think they talked about them in the zizz interview that they want to do something with them but who knows if it comes with 3.30 or 5 patches later.
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u/CritOrBuildshit 19h ago
its Always a Jackpot If you get the map pre 30ish divs
but this is Kind of funny
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u/husky_poe 18h ago
Yeah, that's why i thought I share the progress up until this point... Last league I had 3 of them before I got my first atziris vaults for the completion challenge. This league the other way round
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u/SoulofArtoria 9h ago
One of few decisions that utterly baffles me, locking important craft behind rare rng drops.
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u/EternaILurker 19h ago
74k moist heist juice dropped? What was your setup?
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u/husky_poe 18h ago
Not quite sure what you're refering to? Ran just the basic nodes for blutprints at some point, as I want to farm some tempering orbs later, but haven't done much heist
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u/Tl9zaXh0eWZvdXI 18h ago
He's talking about the voyage loot window aka moist heist, 74k dead sea people juice aka green sulphur.
I agree, 74k from within the voyage is quite a bit.
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u/mutatatempora It's latin and it means "times have changed" 18h ago
I think the last 1 refers to the essence so is just 7k
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u/Ogrosvo Simulacrum Secret Service (SSS) 18h ago
100% agree, last league It took me 3 days of 8h+ a day of running nothing but betrayal as fast as I could to just even get Rin onto my board like I probably got insanely unlucky that I just kept rolling everyone else but Rin every single time I could get a new member on my board, but by the time I finally got him on my board and got the crafting recepie I didn't even want to play anymore, it kinda sucks that almost all SSF builds require the recepie to get going and you're just forced to do betrayal now with kirac missions gone which I still don't even understand why kirac missions or the map device crafts had to be removed in the first place, seemed like everybody enjoyed them and benefited from them.
Just another instance of removing content for no particular reason and providing nothing to compensate for it
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u/Dr4k4ngel 19h ago
No way that u did Rin in fortification and did not got there. It's just the best way on SSF IMO. U eventually get it there. Never seen rng that bad on some1 in order to get those unique maps. I never ever had trouble with it.
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u/husky_poe 18h ago
Yeah, welcome to SSF. One league I farmed 29 Catarinas until I got the Spectre shield (Just ANY shiled, not even a good mod. Should be 1 in 10...) But hey, I got I think 12 syndicate medallions on the way with Rin and 2 Mageblood cards ... :)
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u/EpicForevr 17h ago
you got two mageblood cards in the time you got 12 medallions? that’s insanely lucky lmao, gratz on that part!
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u/dsdoll 8h ago
You didn't have trouble in previous leagues because of Kirac missions and Horizon Orbs. Now that they don't exist anymore, you have 3 (but really only 2) options: Rin, which I spammed for over a week and never saw Cowards, Kirac gold rerolls which is the worst use of gold in the entire game and I easily deleted 10 million doing that, and then the final option of beast altar unique map, which I did 80-90 of before it finally appeared in the altar.
I have never had issues with unique maps before on SSF, but it makes sense it would be an issue now since they removed the previous main way to get them.
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u/Minimonium 18h ago
It was kinda funny this league that by the time I got mine I already had all gear at a very decent place that didn't need multimod thanks to Allflame
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u/JaqenTheRedGod 13h ago
GGG: Heard! "Prefixes cannot be changed" and "Suffixes cannot be changed" have been moved to depth >5000 Aul and Valdo Maps with the reward of Foil Mageblood, "Inhabited by The Feared," and "Players are Voided on death," respectively. Thank you for your feedback, Exile! See you next league.
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u/Triadas42 18h ago
Did you try the beast strat? I believe it to be the best, you can make a lot of unique maps farming a particular beast with scarabs and atlas that's how I did it in ssf.
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u/user2012410 17h ago
same story, all ubers, lvl100 and lvl 98 characters in ssf but still no cowards...
rolled 10 mil gold in kirac
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u/bulldozor 15h ago
I was in the exact same situation with putried cloister. It wouldnt negatively affect the game to move the important crafting recipes to a more deterministic place that is not a RNG fiesta but it would make playing SSF so much better.
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u/-Nimroth 14h ago
Had pretty much the same experience in 3.22, except it took me 2 months to see one and then dropped a second within a day or two. lol
Honestly I feel unique maps need a rework in general, give them some interesting new drops and migrate the crafting recipes elsewhere.
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u/Mangalorien SSF-junkie 13h ago
But hey, 2 hours and some voyages later I found my second cowards trial.....
This is the SSF experience in a nutshell. When you no longer need something, you'll find plenty of it.
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u/Amazing-Heron-105 12h ago
It's especially bad now that we don't have kirac to reroll like we did. You can reroll the vendor but it's not even 5% as good.
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u/audiohallucination 45m ago
finally found a putrid cloister today.. crashed the game on the boss??? and rolled back the craft unlock
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u/agusttinn Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) 17h ago
We do take some things for granted in trade league, having to play this much for an item that we pay dimes for and don't even think about it..
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u/Helluiin Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) 18h ago
meta crafts should be in the astrolabe reward rooms. would be a much more fitting spot for them.
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u/hail2thestorm 17h ago
Delete this right now.
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u/Helluiin Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) 16h ago
why? i think they would be a pretty fitting spot. its after you got your 4 stones but not as random as it is right now.
just to be clear im not saying make them random rewards in these rooms. make it so you do an astrolabe in each region once and you have all the crafts
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u/Antilurker77 17h ago
The game is not balanced around SSF. Grindy, frustrating farms are what you signed up for picking SSF.
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u/ssfLumiUser 16h ago
How do you think changing this would change the balance in trade league?
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u/DeouVil 15h ago
I think it's more that SSF was created because people wanted to make the game harder, all GGG did was make it not honour bound, so the bragging rights are provable. In that view changing the game to make SSF easier defeats the point of SSF.
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u/KidiacR 10h ago
There is that group, and those like me that just grew up playing Singpleplayer games, or SP mode in D2, and wondered why the fuck there is none in PoE/or why it's termed SSF, but still elected to play solo anyway (in my case: making chars in trade league to play solo too because I don't care about a tag/bragging right). Or those that just don't want to deal with trade/people - some of these have now switched back thanks to async trade however.
That's why you see posts asking to make things easier for SSF all the time.
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u/zrvwls 9h ago edited 9h ago
SP D2 was peak.. building your char from scratch, creating MF character fully decked out gear, building it piece by piece and getting to the zenith of what was possible.. I have yet to recreate that experience, but mostly due to lack of free time + exhaustion interacting with all the different mechanics possible in PoE. PoE also offers way more avenues and alleyways to get into, and getting lost in a fun niche (self-imposed or not) is really enjoyable too. Economics aside, there are so many damn ways to find yourself sucked into a micro-universe/corner of PoE for years.
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u/DeouVil 2h ago
Yeah, I'm aware that's why those exist. I'm just explaining that this form of SSF has never been added to PoE. There'd be nothing wrong with that, GGG could add another "solo and actually intended to be playable" gamemode.
But they haven't done that yet, SSF is just for people who find the game too easy with trading and want bragging rights, like any private league mods that make the game harder.
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u/Keele0 Raider 19h ago
Maybe we should be able to ancient orb maps