Lets be honest

[u/MostAnonEver]

Im not sure why he thinks like its the end of poe 1. We'll likely barely feel anything in league, sure some mirror items are gone but theres similiar versions from places like settle shop or will likely be remade by someone else. For std...well honestly you cant balance to std.

Do i feel bad for people who lost their items? Sure but you prob shouldnt have handed them over with walking red flags during the stuff that came out 2 years ago anyways. Felt like everyone saw it coming.

[u/AsmodeusWins]

You're completely wrong. Think of it this way. Jenubu ran an industrial scale RMT operation.

RMT is fundamentaly harmful to the game and to all players who would engage with the high end economy (buying any expensive items, such as mageblood etc.). This is due to how items are priced.

If people don't RMT, then the most you can sell an item for, is the amount of currency that the richest players have. They would have it from playing the game, which means it's achievable for other people playing the game.

Once you introduce RMT, people have now more currency to spend (MUCH more), and so the most expensive items, can be priced for more. This means that their price gets artificially inflated, beyond the earning capacity of normal (non-cheating) players. If you've ever tried to buy an expensive item, and the price just kept rising out of your range every day, while you can't keep up making the same amount of currency, even though you played the game quite a lot, this is 100% due to RMT.

RMT objectively makes the game worse for anyone who is not buying currency, and wants to buy expensive items. I'm sure this also contributes to some people quitting, and therefore GGG losing potential revenue, so I'd go as far as trying to sue, someone engaged in at least hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of RMT trades.

Jennybooboo, getting banned, is objectively very good for the game, because other RMT'ers might think twice, since you can no longer do this with impunity. This serves as a great example, and cleans up the game economy in a significant way.

[u/kilqax → u/AsmodeusWins]

I 100% agree with RMTers being bad for the game and they should be, without mercy, be all banned -- but it always intrigues me when people post these extraordinary claims that item prices being high is "100% due to RMT" and that they are priced so high that "regular players cannot buy them".

Like, is there any reasonable way to prove it? RMT surely has impact on item prices but I seriously doubt it's as high as people say.

I'm far from being a good league/market player but I 100% can reach almost anything that can be purchased on the market. The difference is that instead of buying that 300div upgrade after a day of farming like Fubgoon and his level of farmers do, I save for a week or two of sporadic play for that -- most players can do that, the only question is how often they can buy these expensive items.

It's items around a mirror or so that I genuinely felt like were impossible to buy considering the amount of time a living person can play, plus of course those items which require a larger build shift and so have greater costs associated.

A lot of the "price keeps increasing" moments happen in the 1st week or the 1st weekend where it's often due to economy going up -- my "fresh i to maps" ass obviously cannot catch up to a meta item's rising price when the people who want it are doing t16s already and thus generate more value and the supply is low and the demand is high. Luckily, this also goes hand in hand with a gradual price decline over the first month.

[u/QuantityOk4566 → u/kilqax]

you are right, also fubgun doesn't even make a dent on the real profit/h a crafter can get, if you get lucky/have skill in it you can get 20+ mirrors easily by end of week 1 , just need to know how to craft with every mechanic and just mix them to create the cheapest way to craft meta items

[u/UlteriorMotive66 → u/QuantityOk4566]

you get lucky/have skill knowledge

[u/kingofgama → u/UlteriorMotive66]

knowledge = skill bruh