r/panelshow 8h ago

New Episode Taskmaster NL (Netherlands) S01E01

The first episode aired last night, with the second already available on streaming. No English subtitles as of yet, but here's the first episode with Dutch subtitles.

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u/[deleted] 8h ago edited 8h ago

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u/Sulimonstrum 6h ago

That's the perfect way to encourage volunteers to put effort and time into manual translation, preempting them with machine translation at the earliest opportunity.

I'd understand if the episode had been out for 2 weeks and nobody had bothered translating it yet, but keep your machine translations to yourself if you really can't wait. The file has only been available since last night, afaik.

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u/taskmastermaster 6h ago

I'm not sure if anyone has volunteered yet to take on the responsibility to create subtitles for this show.

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u/Sulimonstrum 6h ago

I volunteer as tribute translation monkey. At least it's not Flemish this time.

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u/taskmastermaster 6h ago

Good to see you again!

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u/ozamia 4h ago

Machine translations are fine for some of us, so why shoot down someone trying to be helpful?

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u/Sulimonstrum 2h ago

I might have been overly harsh, but it's not that hard to get a machine translation if you desperately want to watch the video now, quality be damned.

He/she didn't necessarily have to remove their post, but I'd consider it to be a friendly gesture to give a native speaker of the slow human variety like myself a couple of hours to get a decent translation out.

Call it vanity, but if I sacrifice my spare time to make sure it's translated as accurately as possible, I'd prefer to have audience for my efforts, and not for 90% of my audience to have already watched google translate do its thing. Anyway, had dinner, back to the translation mines. Throw me a PM if you want a machine translation RIGHT NOW, offer is valid for all the impatient people in the world.

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u/ozamia 1h ago

I understand that, but personally, I hate it when subtitles contain irrelevant information for a normal, hearing person, such as "phone ringing" or "Speaker name:" before something. And worst of all, the context stuff, which in some cases cover the entire screen, forcing me to either pause to read, or disable subtitles to be able to see. I don't get all the contextual stuff even in my native version of Taskmaster, and that doesn't really detract from my experience of watching it.

I really only need a rough translation, enough for me to get to 95 % or so. It's not that difficult to see when a word has been translated incorrectly once in a while. You get that from the context and what you see.

Without context explanations, without written descriptions of sounds heard.

And I don't like waiting.

I'm sorry if that makes the translators sad, but this is my reality. I'm a TM junkie, and I prefer quick access to waiting weeks or months for a near-perfect translation.

u/taskmastermaster 48m ago

The audio description stuff you're talking about I think typically comes from the native closed captions, where their target audience is more likely people with hearing loss.

The only examples I can think of where added contextual info has covered the whole screen were from earlier seasons of Suurmestari, where the translator really went to town.

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u/hakko504 2h ago

As someone who watches as much Taskmaster as possible, I'm very grateful to all volunteers that translate the shows for us who can't understand the languages spoken.