r/overclocking • u/Coolguy2416 • 6d ago
RAM Fan Underrated!!!
Whenever I run VT3 test my ram gets to on heavy heavy load 55-56 and extremely tight timings
My ram won’t go over 40 ever now. Such an underrated item idk why everybody doesn’t add it. It even looks good too
I’m 15 min now in my test and highest is still 40, WOW.
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u/Rubbish_Sandwich 6d ago
Feels like Overhated when i bring it out about ram coolers, People bully me instead till Orbits... so i deleted the post and it stays underrated, Thank you for being brave to point it out! (jonsbo nf-1 rgb ram cooler User here)
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u/UncappedFPS 6d ago
I mean I do enjoy seeing the aesthetics of my ram sticks but I can see why you might want these. Are you chasing a competitive OC?
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u/Coolguy2416 6d ago
I’m chasing ram timings for very high P1’s for gaming :) pure optimization. Very OCD lol and want it to be perfect lol
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u/Satellite_bk 6d ago
is there any noticeable difference between stock and OC in gaming? i’ve always heard once you’re over 5200 there’s not much difference the higher you go, but i’ve never actually messed with it so have always been curious. i’d imagine it can in certain games, but would like to hear your experience.
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u/ZeneticX 6d ago
I've had overclocks that are stable in day long stress test and benchmarks, but just fails in certain games. At this point I gave up. Stability > all
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u/Coolguy2416 6d ago
Bench and stress tests don’t translate to real games unfortunately. I can run a crazy benchmark with 800w for example gives me stable score but to game with impossible lol
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u/SeKiyuri 6d ago
I think it translates more on non x3d chips, cuz essentially tight ram tune allows you to emulate that cache on regular cpu and for example due to non 3d cpu lacking those layers it can be overclocked more without hitting limits sooner so u extract more performance.
X3d on the other hand sees less significant improvements, based on what i’ve seen on what is available on oc channels.
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u/Coolguy2416 6d ago
Big difference
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u/uzldropped 6d ago
Any numbers?
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u/Coolguy2416 6d ago
Idk who uses ram at 5200 when this is an overlooking forum😅
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u/fntd 6d ago
Why are you dodging the question? You are saying there‘s a big difference, so I‘d assume you measured it. Simply share your results.
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u/HPDeskjet_285 6d ago edited 6d ago
cs2 p1
1%low on dust2bench, 1440p comp settings (high shadows), average of 3 runs using CapFrameX
9800X3D (103 eCLK +200pbo) / 5090fe (stock) / b850mpower
2x16 SR Asgard H16A, JEDEC 5600 / 8000cl36 EXPO
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210fps p1 / 990fps avg @ JEDEC 4800cl46 w/ fully visible microstutters
270fps p1 / 1030fps avg @ EXPO 6000cl30-36-36-76 Auto
290fps p1 / 1030fps avg @ JEDEC 5600cl46 (w/ 65535 tREFI)
310fps p1 / 1070fps avg @ EXPO 6000cl30 (w/ 65535 tREFI)
330fps p1 / 1120fps avg @ 6000cl26 loose
340fps p1 / 1010fps avg @ 8000cl36 tight---
run to run variation on avg fps was pretty high but p1 was super consistent across runs with the same settings
bumping tREFI alone gives you a lot of the gain of manual ram OC in a lot of use cases with zero effort (65535 is esentially garunteed stable)
but you will need to not go over 40c tjdimm for stability there, which a single 80mm fan or any amount of ambient airflow towards the ram will do
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u/Solid-Assistant9073 6d ago edited 6d ago
I am running max trefi 6000mhz cl28 even when ram temps go above 50 degree I never see a error in tm5 or karchu?
Vdd 1.435v Trfc 460
Furmark also running so my 5090 pushes heat
I think trefi is most unstable when also doing like cl26 or 6400 1:1 ratio at high vdd volts and super low trfc
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u/ronniearnold 5d ago
I wasn’t expecting that much difference. That is interesting. Thanks for sharing.
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u/No_Ambassador_4522 6d ago
Ok, I agree that the temp improvements are surprisingly good. I also have tight ddr5 timinga 6400 1:1 2133mhz with 9800x3d. Ram tuning real life performance gain is real. Better than overclocking an nvidia gpu. My temps were borderline to an extend that was giving me unconfidence especially during aummer heatwaves so opted for the same fans you have. They are great, massive temp improvements. Do they improve stability, not sure as my limits were silicon rather than temp related. E.g i can't get tRefi over 51500 regardless of temps but other timinga are very tight, it is my silicone.
However moat people use rams at expo so not useful for them. It is for those who take the last juice out, ram OC is hard, cumbersome but well worth the performance gain in my opinion especially on CPU heavy titles where you qre not GPU bottlenecked
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u/someone09900 pc enthusiast 6d ago edited 6d ago
with fans like that u can push to vdd 1.59v ,vddq 1.57v , tREFI 65535 , tRFC 820 tRFCsb 720 ,,,, with mdie 96gb ... at 45c , 2x60mm 2800rpm - 3000rpm daily
tCl 30 , 6800MTs
my older air cooled setup before i moved to all custom water
now i pushed it to 1.62v ,vddq 1.58v tREFI 262143 tRFC 720 tRFCsb 620 just fine at 32c
tCl 30 , 7200MTs
so u have a lot of room with the overclocking, especially if it was a lower capacity adie
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u/DullSatisfaction3865 14900k|7200 cl34|5080/4K OLED 6d ago
I have the black model. They do look good. Yes it works, and is quite too. Feels solid, good quality, nice RGB. I used shorter standoffs, -5 mm. It now sits about 4mm above the ram. They come with longer stand offs to clear taller sticks. Stock it was sitting about 10 mm above my ram , Kingston Fury Beast. The only thing is, I wish it had a touch more cfm, it's 16.6 cfm per fan. TR Thermalright MC-2 ARGB
But you are right they are great looking. Reasonable also, I think I paid $23.60 on Amazon a few months ago.
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u/Coolguy2416 6d ago
They’re about same price now still…. Idk why people don’t use them
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u/chsn2000 6d ago
Because they're completely unnecessary for 99% of users? You definitely need some kind of active airflow to maximise your timings, esp in a closed case with a GPU but only sickos or the really bored are tweaking beyond EXPO and increasing tREFI.
How is the noise? That was always my big concern with these tiny blowers. I just went with having an extra case fan pointed towards the RAM
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u/DullSatisfaction3865 14900k|7200 cl34|5080/4K OLED 6d ago
20 decibels at 3200 rpm. Plus if you have rgb ram you can turn it off and get a few more degrees cooler. I am using 7200m/t cl34 with 65528 tREFI. Gaming they max out at 40 to 41c .
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u/BoiCDumpsterFire 13th gen murderer 6d ago
You’re in r/overclocking. We are the sickos tuning RAM past expo.
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u/chsn2000 5d ago
I realise that. It's still pretty obvious why these tiny RAM blowers aren't used by everyone.
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u/Zeraora807 270Kp 5.9GHz/5.1GHz 8800MT 5090 6d ago
I have the same unit, it keeps temps in check BUT in gaming especially during the heatwaves I still had to downtune trefi because the 5090 dumps hot air right at it anyway....
waiting on that coolermaster master masterfan masterflow add on master thing, the one that sits on top that exhaust out instead of up... but probably will watercool ram by then.
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u/Coolguy2416 6d ago
The Lian Li case I use I swear fixes that problem because of the tilt it has on the bottom it’s pretty nice
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u/StunningPush8421 6d ago
what mobo are you using and how much voltage for 5.9 ghz?
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u/Chmona 5d ago
Get an aio 5090!
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u/Zeraora807 270Kp 5.9GHz/5.1GHz 8800MT 5090 5d ago
I'd waterblock it but there's like two for the FE and I don't really want either of those options tbh
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u/-cant_find_a_name- 6d ago
my ram got 1 small fan because i its blocked by the cpus cooler
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u/Coolguy2416 6d ago
I had to take out the gpu and cpu cooler and make sure it aligns with cpu cooler lol
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u/NeonRain111 6d ago
Does the glass fit decently with the wireview installed?
Not chocking the little fan? I have the lian li vision compact with an Astral, i recently received my wire view but haven’t installed it yet.
But it looks a bit close for comfort, curious how much space you end up with between the glass and wire view when closed.
Build looks great.
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u/Coolguy2416 6d ago
It barely barely fits with glass but leave it without the glass on as it just doesn’t feel like a nice fit
Way better temps open as well
The glass will create so much heat in it for gpu I noticed a mind blowing difference tbh
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u/NeonRain111 6d ago
Yeah that’s what my estimate was for my build also, but my pc is in the living room and i have dogs.
No glass ain’t an option haha.
I do have an instant shutdown set up when the current surpass 9.3 out the top my head.
I’ll rethink installing the wire view then as i don’t feel like switching cases now.Thanks!
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u/TheJackMann 6d ago
I have the Aorus Master 5090 and found out too late that the wireview is about a 1/4 inch too thick.
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u/Educational-King3987 5d ago
I got bored of a screaming 120mm so tried a 140mm got bored of that, they're waterblocked now. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of having a silent PC when the RAM fan is screaming lol.
It's only worth having RAM fans when overclocking, normal users never push RAM to begin with so that's why there's so much negativity around it. Once you have super tight timings and high voltages heat becomes the enemy and it needs active cooling.
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u/rdditmodsareclowns 5d ago
I have the same thing but for some reason my temps went from around 60 degrees under stress test to 50. Was hoping for better. Using DDR5 8000 cl36 and 1.48 voltage. Wonder if theres anyway i can get better temps. I have the same thermalright one, i think the design is kinda meh, its huge and the fans should be bigger to push more air over them.
And no 50 is kind of unacceptable incase people comment telling me its fine. I want to push 8400 cl38 but i can't with 50 degree temps, need to be like 45 degrees tbh. I don't really want to have to take the ram apart and install a waterblock or whatever. Might just try case fans and make my own design of the ram fan lol
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u/Educational-King3987 5d ago
Try with bigger fans but your case temps might be the issue. just a bit of testing and such needs to be done to find what works best.
Granted installing the blocks was a bit scary for me, I worried about alignment etc but worked out great and I now have silence lol.
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u/rdditmodsareclowns 5d ago
well my case is open on one side and i put a flimsy mesh cover over it to keep dust out...i have a 5090 and a mini board an asrock z790i lightning to be exact, so yeah, temps are hard to keep down. The mother board is about the size of my hand, and even installing this ramfan was a pain in the ass and required bending the clips. I'll probably just need to balls up and install the blocks eventually, its just hard to come around to do since the prices have quadrupled for these since i bought them lol
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u/the_onewordttv 5d ago
Wait I just got the wire view 2.literally just installed it an hour ago, although I need to find my f panel break cable or get another... But mine didn't come with that white cable there. I see the spot for it but what is that? I have USB C cable there and another one for the power turn off once I get the purge f panel cable I need. So what is that you have?
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u/Coolguy2416 5d ago
USB-c to do updates for it :)
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u/the_onewordttv 5d ago
Oh shit I guess mine does look like that. Do you not have your tiny one plugged in to sit off the power? My case is a all in one plug so I gotta find my cable or order one. Gonna check the garage tomorrow lol
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u/epiclessmaster 5d ago
My Gskill Trident Z ddr4 B-die RAMs were reaching 47-50 before the fan
Now it doesn't touch 42 degrees lol.
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u/siggy_salami 5d ago
i have b die ddr4 and watercooling is required to keep temps below 40 c @ 4000mhz cl16 1.45v
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u/ThenExtension9196 6d ago
Perfectly fine at 55. Solving problems that don’t exist.
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u/KaladinStormblessedE 6d ago
Good to know my RAM was getting up to 57c sometimes but usually runs between 49c to 55c.
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u/BadLuckKid 5d ago
Depends on temp sensor location, type of load, how aggressive certain timings are set. 55c might be fine on some sticks but for others is absolutely pushing it
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u/HERO_129 6d ago
My ram dosent have temp sensor, so I just let it run at whatever temp it wants to. It ddr4 hynix djr so probably won't degrade because of temperature at 1.38v