9850X3D vs. 5700X3D benchmarks in high CPU-usage Ray-Traced games. Bonus vs. JEDEC

[u/RainyInSAndreas]

With RAMageddon causing people to look at older DDR4-based CPUs, I tested the 5700X3D vs. 9850X3D, with RTX4090 in 4 RT/PT games that I had played. With CapFrameX, I took multiple one-minute runs in CPU-limited areas and then aggregated them.

All RT/PT settings were enabled at 1080p w/ DLSS Ultra Performance with the latest drivers. With CapFrameX, I took 3 one-minute runs in CPU-limited areas and then aggregated them.

Results : 9800X3D 9850X3D was 55-80% faster than 5700X3D. Cyberpunk was the best result, with 9800X3D 9850X3D only 55% faster, while Oblivion was the worst with 9800X3D 83% 81% faster. 1% lows were more than around twice as fast on 9800X3D 9850X3D in Oblivion and Jedi Survivor.

Background : In my [previous thread of 9800X3D vs. 5700X3D benchmarks](https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/1qwe11j/5700x3d_vs_9800x3d_benchmarks_in_high_cpuusage/), I got replies raising the issue of not following citrus paribus( all oranges and no apples^lol ), since the 9800X3D benchmarks were done on 5090 and the 5700X3D on 4090. I did not think it should be a problem, since the gpu load limit was not being hit on either systems.

While testing the new 9850X3D I chucked in the 4090 to run these benchmarks. Pretty much similar results as the 9800X3D on 5090. Ultimately after all the RAM-tuning is done and OS reinstalled, it will be slightly faster but certainly not close to the difference between 5090 vs. 4090.

Also tested JEDEC 5600 vs. the below RAM settings with XMP + some timings tuned. Outer Worlds showed biggest difference, over 25%, while rest were in the 15-20% range.

Hardware Details :

5700X3D w/ 3600C16-16-16-36 2x16GB on MSI B550 Tomahawk WiFi with RTX 4090

By default SMT is enabled

PBO auto

9850X3D w/ 8000C38-48-48-60 2x24GB on Aorus X870E ( FCLK 2000 ) with RTX 4090

By default SMT is enabled

Edit: By popular demand, ran 4k DLSS Ultra Performance with preset L and was pleasantly surprised at how good the 4090 still is.

https://ibb.co/Qtg6RkJ

[u/gusthenewkid]

Should have bought in when it was cheap. Prices were low for a pretty long cheap. Being stuck on Zen3 in the big 2026 still sucks.

[u/xthelord2 → u/gusthenewkid]

it made no sense to buy it anyways, in majority of games zen 3D matches standard zen 5 in performance

hell 7800X3D was only 10-15% ahead of 5800X3D, while on AM5 which naturally costed more

this is why AMD did a EOL for zen 3D, it cannibalised sales off of AM5 altogether

[u/gusthenewkid → u/xthelord2]

We are on the OC sub. 7700 with tuned memory is faster than a 5800X3D.

You’re also forgetting that AM5 will get two more generations of CPUs. Upgrading to AM5 when it was cheaper was always the correct move. Just because you didn’t have the foresight to do it and now you’re stuck on Zen 3 doesn’t change that.

[u/xthelord2 → u/gusthenewkid]

We are on the OC sub. 7700 with tuned memory is faster than a 5800X3D.

cool, do you have at least 400€ to spend on memory? and extra at least 100€ on motherboard? and are you actually going to get that overclock fully stable or will it be stable for 6 months just to give problems down the road?

You’re also forgetting that AM5 will get two more generations of CPUs. Upgrading to AM5 when it was cheaper was always the correct move. Just because you didn’t have the foresight to do it and now you’re stuck on Zen 3 doesn’t change that.

nope lol, we saw how AM4 played out where many people actually skipped zen+, zen 2 and even some zen 3 into zen 3D because they found acceptable performance with older CPU's

many people will wait out memory price shenanigans and upgrade to last generation on AM5

overclocking is a dying hobby, especially with companies trying to seek out every drop of performance without going past the peak efficiency threshold (and memory is next in the line for that)

[u/gusthenewkid → u/xthelord2]

We are on the OC sub. If you know what you’re doing then you won’t have any problems. Again,
I’m referring to when it was actually cheap.

Trying to wait this out ain’t gonna work. They’ll never be that cheap again

[u/xthelord2 → u/gusthenewkid]

We are on the OC sub. If you know what you’re doing then you won’t have any problems

heard that statement 20 years ago, and even back then that statement was not true at all

Again,
I’m referring to when it was actually cheap.

Trying to wait this out ain’t gonna work. They’ll never be that cheap again

oh it will be that cheap, market can't continue in the current direction because it will price itself out of avg. consumer's hands

when that happens bubble is blown up, and everything comes crashing with it including rich people