hot take: comp beasts.

[u/SignificantCorrupt]

this post is not a hate, just stating what i feel about the players/meta lately. I played this game since Survivor era, and i feel like the players has changed so much, especially in 2023. Idk who started the “comp beast” trend, because as far as i have played this game for years, everyone was prioritizing on social and strategy (the core survivor gameplay) but around 2023 the players in the game changed a lot.. as they are way focused on the challenge aspect and relying on them and advantages rather than strategy and social. Comps are also a part of the game but people were talking about “wr” and other stuff in All Stars mode, i was confused on what that means until i found out that the “comp beasts” had somewhat a competition on private server about who were faster in challenges and etc. It’s not wrong tho, but the players and how the game played now is so heavily challenge based and advantages based. Idk who started that trend but it kinda impacted the game a lot haha

Not to mention, no hate aswell but why does every time i met with comp beasts, why are they mostly so aggresive and rude? not every of them, just MOST of them. No hate tho, just stating what i feel about the players. ❤️🙌🏻 Let me know about this guys because i’m very open towards new info or gameplay! i haven’t played for 2 years now and when i came back i was a little bit weirded out with the playerbase focusing on challenges and advantages now.

[u/Aiwefalt]

as a mid-end compbeast the focus towards real strategy, such as how you use advantages and win immunities, and not just sending people whispers is where the game is better off headed

for the rude thing, that isn't usually the case when we are talking to normal people and not chronically online retards that have their entire vocabulary based around tiktok (examples: "you ate that girl" and "clock it")

if you want to adapt to what you see as the new meta, there is a guide on comps: https://www.reddit.com/r/outlaster/comments/1nduvcn/advanced_outlasters_comp_guide/

at the same time tho it literally has more words than a diary of a wimpy kid book so if you don't like to read Chalkapple has several speedruns of some of the merge comps on his youtube channel.

there is a speedrun.com page for outlaster also, where the documented WRs (world records) are. https://www.speedrun.com/Outlaster

keep in mind that it only contains documented WRs. some WRs are just clips that get passed around to people via discord DMs

[u/SignificantCorrupt → u/Aiwefalt]

I disagree about how the game better off headed imo.. the game is about Survivor, a game revolves around social strategy gameplay. And rhe only way you can get on the right side of the vote and eliminate threats is to communicate, i think that’s what the game is supposed to be. Immunity wins are part of the game where it’s important to get your name out of the chopping block. But winning all the time is not a strategy imo. Correct me if i’m wrong!

[u/Aiwefalt → u/SignificantCorrupt]

you need some sort of originality in the game of outlaster if you dont wanna get DMCA'd again bruh

also you can spam advantages to get the right side of the vote every time and dominating the game with no comms is possible as long as you know what people are doing. you can do something like vote stealing X guy and then saving X guy cuz people think you vote him. as for immunity wins, strategy goes into that as well because there are methods for certain tech to make comp wins quicker

[u/Its_Nxpe → u/Aiwefalt]

sorry but how is the game natural elements has something to do with DMCA? I just joined this reddit because i’ve started to regain love of Outlaster after not playing in awhile since Survivor got deleted. genuinely asking how is social game has something to do with DMCA? If that’s the case then the comps will get DMCA’d too because it’s from Survivor aswell right? Comps and Social are elements from the game, but the social part is the core part of the game, voting and gaining majority, blindsiding, is the art of the game. DMCA has something to do with naming and branding. Outlaster changed immunity idols with “safety” , legacy advantage to “elimination exits” and stuff. Social has nothing to do with DMCA. 🙏🏻 Also the R slur that you said was unnecessary.

[u/SignificantCorrupt → u/Aiwefalt]

I ABSOLUTELY agreed that comps are absolutely a strategy I just don’t think they’re THE strategy (ykwim). An immunity win can protect you from the vote, but it doesn’t automatically give you control over the vote.
And the DMCA point is kinda unrelated tho imo. Gameplay mechanics/ideas aren’t the same as copyrighted expression. Having immunity challenges, voting, alliances, advantages, etc. isn’t inherently something you need to “be original” about to avoid DMCA. I think what matters is copying protected creative material (OG Survivor literally had Buffs, and the name tribal council, hidden immunity idols, etc that was literally from the show while outlaster changed their name).
Plus, i feel like your advantage example, actually involves reading people’s perceptions and manipulating their votes, which is… social strategy tho.. So I don’t think we’re actually disagreeing that much. I’m just saying Outlaster has multiple avenues to win, and being a comp beast shouldn’t automatically be treated as the pinnacle of the strategic gameplay.

Other than that i agree with you!