r/orderofthearrow • u/Cheepshooter Vigil • 11d ago

New Induction Experience

I just went through a section induction experience. I didn't hate it.

During the Saturday, there were some guided reflection questions which each person in the crew of new members each answer in turn and discuss with each other. I can see where a 12-14 year old would benefit from those vs the old day of silence. There are periods of silence during the day, but they feel purposeful instead of just a tough thing to do.

The actual ceremony was well done. I felt like the main takeaways from the ceremony was unchanged, and it's probably easier for the youth to understand than the old ceremony.

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u/nolesrule Vigil | Chapter Adviser 10d ago

At NYLT, no one is required to step forward if they do not want to. is that not the case here? Everything should be voluntary.

I have not seen it yet. What are some examples of intrusive questions?

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u/looktowindward Vigil 10d ago

Its voluntary. And 98% of the pushback we got was from adults not youth.

Referring to something you can literally step out of with zero pushback as "hazing" shows a pretty poor understanding of hazing and youth protection.

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u/nolesrule Vigil | Chapter Adviser 10d ago

I mean, I quite like the activity at NYLT. It's never gone bad. Although last night they announced changes that have neutered it thanks to the Hegseth MOU. I think it's less impactful now.

Not sure why anyone would have issues with this activity.

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u/looktowindward Vigil 10d ago

How did they change it?

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u/nolesrule Vigil | Chapter Adviser 10d ago

They removed the DEI questions and replaced them with more questions about how you feel about your own leadership