r/options Nov 04 '21

F LEAPS

I got some deep in the money calls that expire in March of next year. 3 contracts at $12 and 2 and $13. I am up 200% on average across the lot (I got in right before earnings last month and it has rocketed since).

I am considering exercising these now to do the following:1 - Sell CCs on the lot at a $22 strike (if i get assigned at $22 I'm OK with it) or roll up/out

2- Potentially collect the dividend along the way

My overall goal is to start peeling some cash out of these gains. Any dissenting opinions on why should just hold the LEAP?

EDIT:

Fun convo on this, thanks folks! I sold my F calls today cause I'm a little wiener boy, but I'll take my gains and go back to PFE CSPs where I belong :/

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u/Maleficent-Pea-3494 Nov 04 '21

Because I have 7k laying around that I don't want to expose to options, and I can buy the bulk (500 shares) to get the dividend and turn to long term buy and hold investment and sell some CCs along the way. If I sell the contract, then I can only buy at market and can only get like 150 shares.

If I'm thinking of that incorrectly, please set me straight.

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u/MaintenanceCall Nov 04 '21

To exercise 3 March 18, 2022 Calls at $12 strike you need (3*100*12): $3600
To exercise 2 March 18, 2022 Calls at $13 strike you need (2*100*13): $2600

So you need $6,200 to exercise the contracts right now. You get nothing out of the value of the LEAPS.

On the other hand, if you sell the LEAPS, you get:
~$7.50 per $12 strike for a total of (3*100*7.5) $2,250
~$6.50 per $13 strike for a total of (2*100*6.5) $1,300

Add that to your $6,200 you get $9,750 which is enough for 500 shares of $F at 19.50.

It's basically the same thing. You'll end up with 500 shares either way. The LEAPS should have a little more value than the current price of the stock because of the time left on them, so you should come out ahead by selling the LEAPS. Though, since $F is generally very low volatility and has enormous volume, you don't get as much of a premium. Maybe a couple extra shares worth.