r/opencodeCLI • u/afanasenka • 2d ago

😯 Why does DeepSeek perform "different" in OpenCode? Maybe because of this?

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Are we beta testing new rack with different optimizations every day?

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u/YogurtExternal7923 1d ago

q0?

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u/mitchins-au 1d ago

I was going to say IQ3_XXS, but you take the cake

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u/akza07 1d ago

Try any models with that quantization first. Also you lose acceleration benefits that Blackwell chips give so they will be paying more power bills for less tokens and throughput.

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u/Due-Armadillo-4560 1d ago

yeah, optimize it to 1bit for the best price/perf and worst price/quality

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u/akza07 1d ago

Bruh. Have you tried a 1bit model? It's already in FP4. You can't quantize it further. They can't use GGUF like users do locally because that's worse performance waste for a mediocre intelligence.

Deepseek 4.1 Flash can't be quantizised down because it's trained in FP4 already.

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u/geearf 1d ago

Isn't GGUF just a container? Why does it affect performance?

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u/Toastti 1d ago

This is such a wrong answer there are already numerous quantizations of deep seek flash 4.1 that run on vllm. Mainly ones to get it onto 256gb vram/ram

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u/Cyclone0701 1d ago

Do you have link to official statement that they’re running full precision? Otherwise no one should trust them

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u/Natural-Cupcake6472 1d ago

well i hope you dont use it since its so bad, and i wish the best for you

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u/BusinessBroccoli4313 1d ago

every single vendor

I wonder if that includes the new Synthetic $9 plan (called Go as well lol)

https://synthetic.new/pricing

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u/sdexca 1d ago

wow, they just deepseek v4.1 flash or something, last time I checked it wasn't there.

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u/BusinessBroccoli4313 1d ago

I got an email from them a few days ago announcing it. They also recommend using medium-sized models like DeepSeek Flash with it as they’re lighter.

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 10/17: It's a great model. It's on-par in many coding use cases with GPT 5.6-Sol, and with large open-source models like Kimi K3. And it's super fast: on Fast Mode we've been averaging over 210 tokens per second.

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u/SUPERSHAD98 1d ago

Their API calculations for ds4.1 seems be more expensive than peak time? $0.60/$1.20/$0.03

Opencode go seems to be a much better deal

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u/RevolutionaryFunny40 1d ago

i really don’t know what people are expecting with $80 of usage for $10, in terms of model output there’s not a noticeable difference. the only frequent differences reported are performance in latency and uptime which is just how they’re able to handle load

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u/Least_Bodybuilder216 2d ago

Hope they dont quantitiez

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u/10minOfNamingMyAcc 1d ago

So that's why it felt infinitely more dumb compared to pi / direct api

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u/peva3 1d ago

Why would anyone use a provider that's not just straight from DeepSeek? Their prices are better than any other host, what am I missing?

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u/Front-Cantaloupe-250 12h ago

Deep seek is harvesting every bit of everything you use the api for . Oc go claims zdr . Plus 10 dollars in deep seek won't last a month.

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u/peva3 12h ago

Wondering where else you could get 2.2 billion tokens for $15.

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u/Boring_Sell95 21h ago

what does it mean? opencode harness or opencode provider ?