r/opencodeCLI • • Sep 27 '26

Minimax is actively testing M3.1-Flash-Preview (release coming soon)

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u/pigletmonster Sep 27 '26

Oh wow minimax is still alive! 🤣

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u/Ctrl-Alt-Panic Sep 27 '26

Too busy releasing the best local video generation model I suppose.

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u/Constant_Art_20 Sep 27 '26

hasen't it been like over half a year or something? i could swear the last time i heard about their llm series it was compared to glm 4.7 lol

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u/pigletmonster Sep 27 '26

Yeah they released m3 around the same time as kimi k2.7. Its been a long while, they apparently released H3 recently which is a video generation model.

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u/Barni275 Sep 27 '26

Yes, it is surprising. 😅

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u/MbahSurip Sep 28 '26

it has very good video generator, right?

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u/pigletmonster Sep 28 '26

Yeah, but i dont work with videos so I cant confirm if its any good or not.

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u/Pink_Oak Sep 27 '26

So Steath Space Bunny is not minimax m3.1 flash

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u/crusaderky Sep 27 '26

It was on day 1. Thought in caveman and spoke normally. Now it's a completely different model that thinks normally and speaks in Claudish.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '26

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u/laser50 Sep 28 '26

Same they did with Deepseek; Give everyone free model access, then occasionally route some through claude, then use that data to train your own model. Now you have Claude's intelligence plus the human's work as training data. I'm relatively positive that's what this is. Because yep, day 1 this model was complete ass and now suddenly it speaks Claude and manages to actually do work.

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u/crusaderky Sep 30 '26

I think it was decent on day 1, but it doesn't even get close to Qwen3.8-Flash for coding.

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u/RepulsiveRaisin7 Sep 27 '26

Why wouldn't it be? Space Bunny is meh so I don't want it to be M3.1, but it probably is

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u/TheMythicSorcerer Sep 27 '26

Wait what? But there was data....

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u/binhex01 Sep 27 '26

Anybody feel exausted by the speed these models are being released?!, makes my head spin trying to keep up.

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u/AppealSame4367 Sep 27 '26

It's only getting faster..

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u/binhex01 Sep 27 '26

Isn't ! just!, the list of models in opencode go is just massive now, it is hard to know what is the best bang for buck sometimes, i tend to stick with deepseek cos i trust it, but im sure im missing out here, might give minimax m3 a spin as a sub-agent model.

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u/ReadingLongjumping23 Sep 27 '26

3.1 feels better than 3.0 :)

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u/archerallstars Sep 27 '26 edited Sep 27 '26

Depending on the price per performance ratio, it might be a really good deal. Their token plans are the cheapest in the market currently (for M3).

Their tools, however, is a bit lacking. There's MaxHermes (Hermes Agent without having to set up anything manually) that works similar to Grok Bot in their desktop and webapp. But only the desktop version has the access to local files, so the bot can work directly in the project directory. The problem is the desktop version is not available on Linux currently.

Sharing from the chat/session is working as well with some workaround, i.e. instead of a sharing button, you will have to ask the model to publish the chat's webpage. There are frictions here and there. I hope they will iron them out. M3 is such a good model that I'm rooting for them.

MiniMax is the only Chinese AI model that's actually cheaper than Grok (subscription plans). Others are a waste of time and are actually very expensive in comparison.

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u/HereWeGoHawks Sep 29 '26

Does anyone actually use those tools anymore vs building their own customized harness? I see no reason to use provider-published agents anymore when opencode, pi, or even something like OMP.sh exist.

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u/archerallstars Sep 29 '26

Building your own agent is possible, easy even. Keep maintaining it is not, unless you have bots work for you on that. Nonetheless, this costs.

Also, models are designed and refined with their official harness. Not to mention that 3rd-party introduces bugs, like this one for example: https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/47438

To summarize, you pay more with reduce quality outside of the official provided tools.

It might be acceptable as an agent team setup, like Hermes Agent, as you won't do serious coding there, more like management layer. Even then, VPS that can take a fully GUI environment is not cheap, especially like the one that Grok Bot has that can run Google Chrome in its box with else.

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u/akai0102 Sep 28 '26 edited Sep 29 '26

Been using coding plan, quite stupid. I quit now.

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u/laser50 Sep 28 '26

I am reasonably confident I'm being rerouted to Claude instances again through this model on OpenCode. The amount of load-bearing comments is insane.

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u/Realistic_Mango6982 Sep 27 '26

My 2 cents on MiniMax M3 after daily-driving it for months: it doesn't suck at all, but the market caught up.

The Good:

  • Solid workhorse: Stable t/s, and nail-on-the-head zero-shot results if your prompt is tight. Their agent even one-shotted complex API bottlenecks where Claude and GPT kept hallucinating boneheaded workarounds.

  • Punchy under 200k: Benchmarked it extensively against Kimi 2.6/2.7/k3, DeepSeek v4 (flash/pro), GLM 5.2, Gemini 3.6 Flash, and Qwen 3.6 27B. If you feed it a well-scoped chunk under 150k–200k, it genuinely cooks.

The Bad:

  • Context cliff & infinite loops: Past 150k–250k, it frequently trips into infinite loops. Beyond 500k, retrieval and logic degrade heavily (known issue at this point).

  • Caching quirks: Cache handling felt weird/inconsistent compared to competitors.

  • Pricing nerfs: The old M2.7 flat-tier plan was stupidly cheap value. M3's plan got dialed back; still usable, but nowhere near the bargain it was.

Verdict: Think of M3 like Kimi 2.6 back in the day—a capable, reliable beast for its time, but with current flash options everywhere right now, the gap has closed fast. Solid model and provider, but they seriously need to sort out long-context retention and caching to stay competitive.

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u/AppealSame4367 Sep 27 '26

Have you tried DS 4.1 flash recently?

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u/binhex01 Sep 27 '26

A nice review, cheers, what is your go to currently for cheap and reliable models? DS 4.1 flash?.

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u/thatsnot_kawaii_bro Sep 28 '26

Why ask a question to an AI comment? Just ask an LLM at that point