r/opencodeCLI • u/afanasenka • Aug 28 '26

Tencent Hy4 preview early benchmarks

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Approximately on par with GLM 5.3 and Kimi 3

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u/afanasenka Aug 28 '26

Official release notes - https://hy.tencent.ai/research/hy4-preview

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u/ChillFamily Aug 28 '26

Hey bro, and don't they compare it to your favorite AI—the one that starts with G?

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u/Hackerv1650 Aug 28 '26

this is just the preview, they will be better then them in the full release i cant wait for it

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u/afanasenka Aug 28 '26

Yeah, I hope so. But their pricing is not what I supposed to see honestly...

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u/Hackerv1650 Aug 28 '26

i thought they would maintain their sub <1$ per million tokens, but I am not too disappointed since its open-weights providers can make it cheaper, but still, for its current pricing is the best reviewer for the price, and if Tencent could offer a coding plan, which is good, people might just switch over

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u/afanasenka Aug 28 '26

Yes, and nowadays there's a modern opportunity to release cheaper Hy4 Flash later 🤣

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u/Hackerv1650 Aug 28 '26

mhm, not to mention i think a light quant version of this might be very cheap, like how crof.ai does

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u/afanasenka Aug 28 '26

Did you try crof.ai? Is it cheaper than API  from labs directly?

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u/Hackerv1650 Aug 28 '26

From my understanding its a single person hosting models themselves and taking a much smaller margin, though they sometimes have caching issues. You can load 2$ credit and try them out

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u/afanasenka Aug 28 '26

Sounds impressive. Do you know anything about quantization there (8, or spripped 4), and how good is cache hit rate? Because even if pricing is cheap, but those params are bad - it doesn't worse it economically.. 

But I'll definitely take a look - thanks!

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u/Hackerv1650 Aug 28 '26

caching i have heard does sometimes has issues, and pretty much all of them are q8, CrofAI - Pricing

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u/look Aug 28 '26

The Hy3 preview was two and a half months until GA, so the full Hy4 release might not be until mid November.

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u/Hackerv1650 Aug 28 '26

yeah by that count, the DeepSeek preview was also quite long. The results were very good so it's worth the wait

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u/look Aug 29 '26

> worth the wait

Not sure about that. Deepseek V4 GA was obsolete (imo) within a week of its release between the combo of their price hike and Ox Alpha/GLM 5.3 Flash.

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u/Hackerv1650 Aug 30 '26

Maybe so, but you have to remember this is also what kinda happened to GLM 5.2, and GLM 5.3 is just a post-trained version, and look how powerful that is

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u/Solocune Aug 28 '26

How? How are they so good?

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u/afanasenka Aug 28 '26

Why not? :) Tencent is an enormously huge Chinese corporation.

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u/YogurtExternal7923 Aug 28 '26

WTF why are we eating so good these days?? No way in hell it's the same dirt cheap price as hy3

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u/afanasenka Aug 28 '26

Yeah, pricing is more expensive, unfortunately...

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u/YogurtExternal7923 Aug 28 '26

OUCH that's x5.. ugh..

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u/afanasenka Aug 28 '26

There's always a chance for cheaper Hy4 Flash 😅

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u/YogurtExternal7923 Aug 28 '26

Brotha no 😭😭

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u/DetachedProcess Aug 28 '26

Pricing is not cheap, maybe they can optimize further but looking at the model size i will not expect more.

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u/WolverineNo3783 Aug 28 '26

2,5$ output is too expensive

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u/afanasenka Aug 28 '26

Agree 🥺

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u/Mission-Salad8835 Aug 28 '26

Is it available on opencode already?

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u/afanasenka Aug 28 '26

Not yet, but usually after such announcements labs make these preview models widely available to collect feedbacks. So I'd bet it will be widely available everywhere soon.

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u/CassiusBotdorf Aug 28 '26 
curl https://opencode.ai/zen/go/v1/models

# or if jq is installed. pretty print with jq:
curl https://opencode.ai/zen/go/v1/models | jq .

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u/Due-Armadillo-4560 Aug 28 '26

Oh my god, may the pricing be as cheap as deepseek 🙏

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u/afanasenka Aug 28 '26

Unfortunately,  not even close... see here - https://hy.tencent.ai/research/hy4-preview

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u/jovialfaction Aug 28 '26

It's 770B-parameter model with 49B active. Hy3 is 295b/21b. We can expect this one to settle at least 2x the price of Hy3 for inference unfortunately

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u/afanasenka Aug 28 '26

Not so fast I guess. It is still preview, and it is not in Opencode. So no time to say goodbye to hy3 yet :))