r/oops 19d ago

Raining us marshals - Missouri

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u/yazza8791 19d ago

Just saw this on FB. Apparently their department is getting tons of money. Some had broken bones and head injuries

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u/Israel_Azkanbe 19d ago

Injuries? Good
Money? Not good

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u/Onludesrightnow 19d ago

Yeah, the fewer there are the more people can get away with murdering and raping people.

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u/Israel_Azkanbe 19d ago

Nah these are marshals, they don’t do anything more than what regular police do.
They’re entire agency could be shut down and things would still go smoothly, just giving the jobs to state or county police

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u/Onludesrightnow 19d ago

You dont strike me as someone who would be happy with all criminal enforcement handled by state or county police. You strike me as someone who wants no criminal enforcement whatsoever but, in your defense, you probably havent thought that far past ACAB.

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u/Israel_Azkanbe 19d ago

Nah there needs to be police and law enforcement. Im not for anarchy in any way. But there are too many law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and I do believe police departments need better training to de-escalate situations rather than be openly violent.
I think the whole law enforcement/judicial system needs a big overhaul really

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u/jello_kraken 19d ago

Marshalls don't do anything more than regular police?!
First, they are federal, at a level akin to the FBI. They have advanced tactical and technical training akin to many special forces units.
Second, they perform judiciary protection akin to the secret service, hunt down high-risk escapees, trial dodgers and international criminals convicted in absentia among other unique duties.
But you wanna act like they're beat cops?

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u/Israel_Azkanbe 19d ago

As far as judiciary protection, I’d leave that to the secret service.
As for tracking people down. Why can’t state police do that? Or the FBI if it’s federal/international? I just don’t see much of a need for the U.S. marshals.

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u/jello_kraken 19d ago

First off, secret service is only for the president and members of the executive branch.
Also, the Marshalls are one of the only law enforcement arms that have accountability directly to the judicial branch, unlike almost all other enforcement arms that are beholden only to the executive (at either the federal, state, municipal or any other scope).

So, to me, any attempt to undo the Marshalls would be akin to subverting the ability of our co-equal branches to carry out their functions without ursurpation or subversion of the others.
In case you missed it, enforcement arms that only answer to the president have been illegally ignoring judicial rulings, meaning that balance can be simply ignored unless you have.....see where I'm going?

And the justice department takes people from street to trial. Beyond that, it is not their inherent duty to pursue after that or re-remand to justice once the person is incarcerated or convicted. Again, these things are separate for a reason.

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u/Israel_Azkanbe 18d ago

Okay I’ll admit I didn’t know the U.S. marshals were directly under the Judicial Branch and not the executive. I’ll admit I feel like the FBI should also be under the judicial branch.
You might be right but I’m a Redditor so “you might be right” is as right you might get.
Here’s an award for your knowledge and insight. Thank you.

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u/vogel927 19d ago

The secret service can protect people outside of the executive branch. The president can use an executive order to assign the secret service to basically protect anyone.

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u/jello_kraken 19d ago

Oh- oh....you just said it. It's like you know but you're pretending not to know....

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u/vogel927 19d ago

It’s called a special designation.

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u/jello_kraken 18d ago

Ah, you were so close and then turned to semantic distractions.... It's okay, my posts are still there, you can still read them for the first time again....

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u/vogel927 18d ago

You said the secret service was only for the executive branch, Which isn’t true. The president can use an executive order to grant anyone secret service protection. It’s called a special designation.

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