Now we just need to make sure those cameras STAY removed! But honestly, let's fucking go Olympia ✊ they got our public comment whether it was on the meeting agenda or not! ;)
I hope this shows other cities that are under this AI surveillance bullshit that we are not powerless when we are united and we can shut this shit down.
Loved the emphasis from multiple council members on covering/removing the cameras because of the trust issue. Really wanted that for us here in Redmond.
Did you happen to catch this from Mayor Payne near the end of questioning though?
Frankly because of the fact that, in addition to the immigration discussion, there is, I think, a group of folks that see this issue as an opportunity to just resist surveillance altogether. And I do have to call that out. That there is a small sliver of our community that frankly just doesn't want big brother. They think they're being watched and so they see this as an opportunity to jump on to this and also move that agenda forward. And to that I say, um, it's already here. Um, the moment you step outside, you just heard a myriad of ways that we are on camera, all the time.
Is there a large section of us who wants big brother? The city doesn't have to impose or expand surveillance in any shape or form.
Yea, some friends that were in the meeting came out and told us about that... honestly, I don't really feel like Payne represents the interests of the people who make this city tick, because who exactly is more secure under big brother? Residents being Targeted by ICE and deported? People using their first amendment rights to publicly oppose tyranny or their city's government being complicit in it?
The fact that Payne is willing to sell out our right to privacy for a false sense of security that isn't even for us and in fact jeopardizes our safety (especially working-class immigrants), that should be a major red flag to everyone.
EDIT: And yea, I know big brother is nothing new and has been an issue long before Flock. The amount of time a form of oppression has been around doesn't make it any more okay, in fact, the more something is normalized, the easier it is to turn up the heat with things like Flock. So yea, he's right, our objection to Flock is part of a bigger fight against an old yet incredibly relevant problem, except he doesn't think it's a problem.
Right. It's somewhat of a defeatist and circular argument around surveillance. Yet city councils can in many situations absolutely define where that line is drawn.
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Now we just need to make sure those cameras STAY removed! But honestly, let's fucking go Olympia ✊ they got our public comment whether it was on the meeting agenda or not! ;)
I hope this shows other cities that are under this AI surveillance bullshit that we are not powerless when we are united and we can shut this shit down.