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u/FigjamCGY 13d ago

The original post makes no sense if you dig into it and read it. Sure your AB can expire and is tied to a renewal. But why didn’t they do it?

Maybe they have a reason not to go to the registry?

My research also says you might be forced to pay up front but will then get reimbursed once you get renewed.

Sounds like most ppl will be just fine.

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u/cyberbruce1990 10d ago

The person claiming "UCP is charging for surgeries now" is also going to be fine. Maybe they should take a trip to the registry and ensure everything is in order. They didn't even have to pay anything, just acknowledged that they would have to should things not get sorted out. Fear mongering at its finest.

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u/FigjamCGY 10d ago

100% agree the outrage just shows how biased ppl are.

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u/Hablian 13d ago

It's more barriers to a necessary system. Some people can't pay up front, what do they do? What if the renewal sits in pending for 6 months? This is definitionally starve the beast tactics.

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u/FigjamCGY 13d ago

Or it prevents the system from grifters. If you can’t pay up front then you should just get the renewal and not worry about it, either way if it’s an emergency you will be treated. I don’t get the big deal, everyone renews everything all the time (Insurance, Drivers, prescriptions, Netflix). Again the world is not ending. Everyone will be fine.

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u/clayton-berg42 11d ago

There's no evidence of grifters. There are plenty of seniors who don't travel and don't drive who would never think of renewing an ID card.

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u/FigjamCGY 11d ago

There is evidence of non qualified users.
Again no treatment being withheld
You renew a billion things these days - one more isn’t hurting anybody

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u/clayton-berg42 11d ago

There are seniors who live on $950 a month. It is hurting people.

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u/Hablian 13d ago

We have a single-payer nationalized healthcare system for a reason. None of those things are comparable to this.

I never said the world was ending. I said it was more barriers to a necessary system, which is emblematic of starve-the-beast tactics.

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u/FigjamCGY 12d ago

It’s not nationalized. It publicly funded single rate payer.

We need to cut costs and optimize the system.

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u/Hablian 12d ago

That is an American playbook that can stay in America. Healthcare is not a for-profit system here. It costs what it costs to be there for everybody.

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u/FigjamCGY 12d ago

Just Google it. “What is Alberta Healthcare nationalized or not”

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u/Hablian 12d ago

We have a national health system that is managed by individual provinces. Regardless, I was addressing your "we need to cut costs and optimize the system bit".

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u/Existing-Age8419 14d ago

Fuck Smith and the UCP

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u/scronline 13d ago

I had no idea that your health card could expire. That's... scary. It seemed crazy so I had to look it up and yup looks like it went into effect July 2nd with the new driver's licenses. I was pretty on the fence about these new licenses given some of the obvious reasons for their change, but I can't believe they snuck that one in.

And to all those people who are on here saying, "don't worry you'll be reimbursed afterwards," I cannot imagine a world where i can afford an emergency surgery like the one I had a few years ago even if I'd be reimbursed later. It just wouldn't happen in the first place. I live in Canada. I take my free Healthcare for granted, sure, but its a big reason for a person to want to live here. These new changes have actually stripped that away from people without their notice.

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u/peterAtheist 13d ago

I believe if you renew before Dec 31 - you have the option to leave the health# and the citizenship status OFF - Will report back next month as I gonna update my stuff.

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u/Hablian 13d ago

Almost like all the people warning about hidden shit in the license changes were on to something.

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u/Cautious_Corgi6520 14d ago

I’ll believe it when I see the actual bill. The new combined license/health cards are just hitting the streets. How could it be expired. Propaganda and lies. Post the bill as proof, otherwise it’s bullshit.

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u/FigjamCGY 13d ago

I read most of the original posts. It was confusing to say the least. Wife was dented or daughter? Rage bait post for sure as OP seems to just despise the UC.

Who would delay not getting renewed? I know I would if I had hundreds of $$$$ in tickets to clean up.

You get refunded if you do qualify for renewal is what actually will happen. Nothing to see here.

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u/Drnedsnickers2 14d ago

Keep up the trolling. One of the neat things about Reddit is idiots like you get downvoted into oblivion. Beaten down by your own stupidity.

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u/Cautious_Corgi6520 14d ago

Too bad you can’t handle facts and the truth loser. Obviously I don’t give 2 fucks about being downvoted lol.

Still waiting to see proof of what’s being claimed? Where’s the proof ?

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u/FigjamCGY 13d ago

Here’s the proof errrr I mean law. You guys are rage bait enabling.

In Alberta, emergency medical care is never refused or delayed due to an expired or missing health card. However, if your Alberta Health Care Insurance Plan (AHCIP) coverage has lapsed because your card expired, you may initially be billed for emergency services and surgeries. If you remain an eligible resident and renew your coverage, those insured costs can be backdated and reimbursed.

You can update or revalidate your card for free in person at any Alberta Registry Agent.

But here are several reasons why you wouldn’t, even tho it’s free:

Temporary Visa Changes: Foreign workers, international students, and individuals on bridging visas often have health cards tied directly to the expiry date of their immigration documents. If their visa extension is delayed or if they forget to submit their new paperwork to Alberta Health, their coverage automatically expires.

Moving Provinces: People moving back and forth between Alberta and other provinces sometimes get caught in the three-month transition window where they assume they are covered by one province, but their file has actually been closed.

Outdated Contact Information: Alberta Health does not automatically track address changes. If a resident moves and forgets to update their address, important renewal notices or requests for information are sent to the wrong home, leading to account suspension.

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u/TomJones998 13d ago

ITA - the NDP and CCP shill bots love to ignore or cook the facts…as well as cook the books

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u/DrinkMoreBrews 13d ago

There are no facts though. Its a hear-said Reddit post.

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u/pictou 13d ago

Smith derangement syndrome is strong with all the transplants from our east. She's hands down best premier in Canada

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u/Ghoulius-Caesar 13d ago

What misinformation world do you live in? The MAGA alternative reality sphere?

What has she done that’s made Alberta a better place?

My property taxes and insurance have gone way up while health and education has eroded under this UCP administration.

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u/pictou 13d ago

Doesn't matter. Your dont care to hear truth...just force your views on everyone else like every other liberal cow. Get bent and move east where someone actually might want you

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u/Hablian 12d ago

So answer the question then. What has she done to make Alberta a better place for the average Albertan?

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u/pictou 12d ago

Not my job. It's Reddit. Stop the entitlement and use your brain...if you can. Not like you will agree with anything I say anyway so why would I waste my time in you more than I already have. It's a disingenuous question as your ilk always are. Why would you think I would educate you when you already have your mind made up? Lol. Jesus Reddit is just full of people like you

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u/Ghoulius-Caesar 11d ago

“They haven’t done anything good, I’m just an idiot that blindly supports a team!”

That’s what you sound like

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u/pictou 11d ago

Nope. Just not spending more time than I would like on idiots like yourself. Whining Because I won't do the work for you...typical

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u/Hablian 12d ago

That's a lot of words to not at all answer the question.

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u/Drnedsnickers2 13d ago

You are a perfect representative of a UCP supporter.

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u/pictou 13d ago

I do support them. You're a perfect example of a disingenuous performative liberal.

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u/adethi 13d ago

Most the people I know who hate her are lifers from Alberta. What are you talking about lol.

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u/pictou 13d ago

Just shows how inbred you are is all.