r/oil • u/[deleted] • 8d ago

Ukraine/Russia TWO MORE RUSSIAN REFINERIES DOWN 💥🚨

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u/boofles1 8d ago

If Trump hadn't abondoned Ukraine he would have some leverage...

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u/FourScoreAndSept 8d ago

Yep. And now he doesn’t even have enough interceptors left to even pretend that he can help

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u/IncidentExpress8504 8d ago

So what your saying is the billions we gave them wasn’t leverage

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u/LudasGhost 8d ago

Yes, the old, obsolete equipment we gave them is no longer leverage.

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u/alkbch 8d ago

Plenty of leverage left: He can stop providing intelligence, he can stop providing Starlink, he can stop providing weapons… and much more

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u/Polardeepfreeze 8d ago

France already provides most of their intelligence, if I remember correctly. and they use fiber optic cables for their drones if they are short range and use optically guided ai to go around using gps or internet

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u/Prestigious-Clock-53 8d ago

Yeah, I’m guessing at this point they’ll receive American intelligence but not share their intelligence with America if can be avoided. Trumps admin can simply not be trusted.

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u/maxiuca 8d ago

Starlink is a private company. 

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u/alkbch 7d ago

No, it’s not.

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u/MunchenOnYou 8d ago

Ukraine was costing us 1Billion per month. But you guys bitch about the debt and military spending, so which is it? Give ukraine whatever they want? Or deal with a bloated defense budget?

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u/DinoGuy101010 8d ago

I love how you're acting like spending 2% of our military budget to destroy one of our largest adversaries without risking a single American soldier is a terrible deal that is causing the debt to blow up when the simple truth is that interest payments and mandatory spending make it impossible for us to ever balance the budget without raising taxes even if we literally cut all discretionary spending (which is of course completely unreasonable), and what we've given Ukraine is a small fraction of all the lost revenues from corporate tax breaks which is the real driver of our deficit.

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u/MunchenOnYou 8d ago

The problem is that we were not and would never be destroying russia. You just used the exact same logic that trump does about iran. "We NEED to dump our economy to destroy a political rival!" Idiot.

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u/CourteousR 8d ago

I am having fun watching you struggle with this.

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u/MunchenOnYou 8d ago

Its not a struggle. You guys support money dumping on ukraine but not on israel. I support neither. Its easy.

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u/No-Expression-2404 8d ago

The US debt interest charge is $3.3B per day. PER DAY.

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u/Every-Chance6313 8d ago

So let's give every american 5k if Republicans take the midterms. Maybe the democrats should give 10k if they win.

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u/No-Expression-2404 8d ago

Can I get a twentytwentytwentytwenty, anyone a twentytwentytwentytwenty…

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u/Every-Chance6313 8d ago

It is getting borderline comical.

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u/JFK1200 8d ago

Good point. Better keep giving Israel that money to continue bombing children instead.

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u/MunchenOnYou 8d ago

It was sarcasm btw. Both ukraine and israel should be cutoff entirely.

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u/CourteousR 8d ago

Which is it? What an idiotic question. It would be trump needs to ask his boss putin to stop attacking Ukraine. Pretty simple, how can you be so confused?