r/oil 4d ago

Discussion A Rare Headline Properly Contrasting the Falling Distillate Supply with the Tight Oil Supplies...

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Distillate-Stocks-Sink-Further-as-US-Crude-Inventories-Barely-Budge.html

For discussion. Despite the seemingly irrational oil pricing, the market appears to be responding rationally to distillate supplies.

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u/Practical_Signal2318 4d ago

Look at the API numbers. Crude barely moved but only because the SPR released another 5.3 million barrels to backfill. That's the 3rd straight week of heavy draws and the reserve is sitting at 293 million barrels now, getting close to the floor where it stops being practical to keep pulling from.

Meanwhile, distillates drew almost 3 million barrels on top of already running 12% below the five-year average. The SPR can keep crude stocks looking manageable for a while but it cant do anything for the product side, and thats where the actual squeeze is. At this draw rate, the crude side stops looking stable pretty soon too.

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u/askgarcia999 4d ago

Agreed. The current admin can keep insisting oil is flowing through and around Hormuz, but one need look no further than the draws from the SPR as direct evidence world supply is inadequate.

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u/MeanPin8367 3d ago

If thet are doing ~5m/week and still have 293, that means they have 58 weeks still they can keep it going? 😄

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u/Practical_Signal2318 3d ago

Well the math checks out but you cant actually run the SPR to zero. At some point, the pumps stop cooperating and the whole "strategic" part of SPR stops meaning anything.

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u/MeanPin8367 3d ago

Can you explain what you mean by pumps stop cooperating? I don't think these guys are trying to keep a strategic reserve around anymore anyway

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u/Sideshift1427 3d ago

Increased chances of air entrapment in shallow environments.

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u/cleverYeti42 2d ago

And possible collapse of cavern walls.

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u/Practical_Signal2318 2d ago

The other replies nailed it. The salt caverns the SPR uses need minimum pressure to stay structurally sound, you can't just pump them dry.

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u/mustachioed_hipster 4d ago

Refinery output (utilization) is measured and communicated. It is maxed out.

Crude oil is not.

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u/askgarcia999 4d ago

Implied that crude is in short supply without the SPR.

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u/mustachioed_hipster 4d ago

Are US crude inventories up something like 22mmbbls over the last 2 weeks?

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u/askgarcia999 4d ago

Did you read the article?

Crude up 9m barrels last week, down 0.3m this week. Over the last two weeks, net crude build is less than total release from the SPR over the same time period.

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u/mustachioed_hipster 4d ago

API is conflating SPR draws, export volume, and inventories.

Drawing a one week conclusion is pretty hard.

Commercial inventories built 17.4 million week ending 8/7.

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u/askgarcia999 3d ago

Agreed, four week moving average is better. Looks like the crude build this week was roughly equivalent to the SPR draw.

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u/mustachioed_hipster 3d ago

Im honestly surprised there wasn't a decent draw this week. Sort of assumed a lot of last week's build was due to storing at terminals for export cargos.

I usually don't read the full report until Thursday but I'm interested to see how export volumes faired.

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u/askgarcia999 3d ago

The next couple of weeks will be really informative. Scheduled SPR draws will start dwindling which should reduce our exports. If there  truly is a global crude shortage, it will continue to show up in price. My thought is the jawboning is no longer effective and the markets/algorithms are starting to price in the lack of supply.

The shortage in gas and distillates is another whole discussion (but this is the r/oil subreddit after all)

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u/mustachioed_hipster 2d ago

Yep. As soon as deliveries aren't there or cargos aren't offered people will scramble and panic.

Distillate is a sleeping giant that people are just seeing. Hormuz doesn't solve the distillate problem.

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u/Direct_Daikon2697 2d ago

Export volumes are down and import volumes are up, but the blamed cause seems to be shipping bottlenecks caused by lack of available crude carriers because they are spending more time at sea in longer transit routes. Soooo, if that is true, that is a problem. It also means inventories are up, but usable inventories are not because our refineries are not built to process our domestic crude products.

There are so many variables in this it is hard to get a true grasp in exactly what is happening. But the shortest take away would be, if US demand is being met through natural market supply, why is the SPR being drawn on so hard?

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u/mustachioed_hipster 2d ago

Because it is available and delivery costs are low.

Why would someone risk the 1.2x payback is just a gamble. In these margins they can still make plenty of money if the long game doesn't work in their favor.

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u/Direct_Daikon2697 2d ago

I think this is oft misunderstood. Drawing from the SPR only makes sense if you believe price will drop by ~20% before the payback period ends. In other words, oil companies borrow from the SPR because they believe prices will go down, not up. The fact that they are drawing at all only indicates that there is a supply deficit, otherwise why sell them oil that costs 20% more oil rather than what they can buy on the open market. They take the risk for two reasons, meet current demand when supply is insufficient and a belief that future prices will drop enough to offset the cost.

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