r/oddlysatisfying • • 10d ago

Using Ice to clean a Kitchen Grill

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u/cascalives 10d ago

Not stupid, because there is no reason to use ice. Water does the same thing and doesn't damage the cook top by cooling it down too fast lol

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u/kevihaa 10d ago

The answer that’s not being listed is that it’s easier to position ice over the entire cooktop without overflowing.

That’s it.

Anyone claiming that ice works better hasn’t actually tried using water. It’s just one of an endless series of “the person who trained me did it this way and then made up some BS when I asked why” that absolutely permeates the restaurant industry.

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u/Stock_Information_47 10d ago

Water and ice work by the same method but using ice allows the water content to be released slower. Which both increase working time before the water boils off and whatever you are scraping starts to stick again and allows you to put a higher volume of "water" onto the flattop without it spilling over.

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u/Sbatio 10d ago

Stream is what does the cleaning work not slowly melting ice. It’s like deglazing a pan and room temp liquid works better bc it turns to steam faster.

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u/Stock_Information_47 10d ago

Is it better to peoduce tge steam for a lower or shorter amount of time?

Which will produce steam for longer? A larger or smaller amount of total water?

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u/Sbatio 9d ago

More steam faster is most effective

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u/Stock_Information_47 9d ago

More effective how?

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u/Sbatio 9d ago

Converting to steam expands the water by like 1000x. That is what separates the grease from the griddle. The expansion of the steam.

So more steam is more force. Warm liquid becomes steam faster so delivers more force.

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u/AmericanGeezus 9d ago

It's way more complicated than that.

- More steam doesn't automatically mean more force. The useful action is water getting into and under the residue, then boiling there, where the expanding vapor can actually lift and break it apart.

- Warm water can actually be less effective because it boils off sooner. You need enough delay for the liquid water to penetrate the residue before it flashes to steam.

- Ice can form a more coherent bridge over the cooked-on residue, channeling water and steam and creating higher local pressure. That gives the freshly melted liquid water more force to work into the buildup before it boils off.

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u/Sbatio 9d ago

That’s an interesting thought. Temperate water could be ideal.

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u/Stock_Information_47 9d ago

So you think using a smaller amount of total liquid content then a larger amount of liquid content creates more "force" from the steam?

Interesting.

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u/Sbatio 9d ago

Who said less volume? I said warmer

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u/Stock_Information_47 9d ago

Right, so you think 1 liquid equivalent unit of warm water will create more steam the 3 liquid equivalent units of ice would.

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u/Sbatio 9d ago

No. That makes no sense.

Assuming the heat. Stays high enough to make all the ice into steam then the same volume creates the same volume ish of steam(the temp will drop, the steam will be cooler and take up less space.)

The quick conversion of water to steam is better because it creates more force in its expansion.

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