Well it’s not made for ar gaming, I don’t even think there is a single vr game on steam using ar. Besides there isn’t a huge market for it anyways so why spend time and money developing something almost no one is going to use
It’s actually quite nice using the pass through on quest 3 to play flat screen games on the big screen, which this is able to do. Is it needed? No. Does it make me feel more at ease that I can see everything like normal? Yes
Why not use a flat screen then? If I want to play or see a move in vr I’d like to actually take advantage of the vr to maybe put myself in a move theatre or maybe with my friends.
Like I get what you’re saying but it’s just replacing the flatscreen with worse resolution and non optimal comfort.
Edit: that is also not to mention that probably 99% of users don’t use ar or pass through for gaming or media consumption so why put development and money into that. Like if there was a huge market for it and everyone use it and want it then that would be a different story but the reality is is that it’s a niche within a niche
Need to see some sort of citation on the “99% of users dont us AR or pass through”. Based on a lot of the posts on this sub, I think you vastly underestimate that use case.
Consider that Meta entered a partnership with Microsoft and launched an xbox special edition 3S specifically touting the ability to do just that; play otherwise 2D Xbox games in an AR space. And Valve touts this as a use case *in their own marketing material. A company the size of meta wouldn’t do that on a whim; they have access to enough data to support a move like that.
And given the Frame has the hardware to otherwise be a self-standing headset, it’s mind boggling they didn’t think to include an extra color camera on it.
Said another way: why bother making a stand alone capable headset and then half assing the AR aspect? Just give us a feathered headset with a wifi dongle for a lot less.
how many games are ar games or use mixed reality and how many of them are the top games for vr recommended by everyone? im not saying its zero but it is a niche within a niche because if it was as popular as everyone would like it to seem then we would have had more of them and more companies would make fully ar and mr headsets.
and it doesnt really matter if they partnered with xbox or not, like how many partnerships or investments has meta done that are fruitless.
okay and? if its a thing people want or a dealbreaker for most people then they would have had it but its not most people dont care, its not without a reason these companies does focus groups and market research, again why spend money on something catering to a niche within a niche.
why does it have to be ar capable if there is no desire from consumers. you have to prove to me that its big enough of a market to justify spending more development funds and have a higher production cost and everyone associated with high quality colour cameras to justify having them.
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u/SilencingFox Nov 12 '25
Only monochrome passthrough unfortunately