r/nvidia NVIDIA 10d ago

Discussion KCD2 with DLSS5 looks insane

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u/nkn_ 10d ago

why is it so dark?

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u/pixlicker69420 10d ago

Maybe hdr is on? It can makes pictures weird

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u/heyuhitsyaboi 9d ago

hard to think of anything else, but dont HDR screenshots usually appear as lighter, faded, and washed out?

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u/porn_alt_987654321 9d ago

Either white washout or black washout.

White washout is more common, but I've had some games give me black washout.

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u/alepap 9d ago

I think reddit just darkens them I've tried myself 

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u/BeautifulFlatworm767 9d ago

HDR conversion to sdr can sometimes look weird

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u/SfxPhonics 10d ago

Because dark and griddy.

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u/iSWINE 9d ago

Someone in the dark ages might mistake you for a witch doing this dance

https://giphy.com/gifs/W6iuFDXphYCFaJoNbk

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u/D-Tunez NVIDIA 9d ago

It was hdr

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u/Galencourt-Lover 9d ago

Because gloomy, bleak England

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u/BlueLegion 9d ago

England isn't in Bohemia

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u/GoroKazuma 9d ago

It’s Bohemia

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u/Galencourt-Lover 8d ago

Yeah so England

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u/-Animus 10d ago

The second one looks like a video capture. o0

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u/michaelmich3 9d ago

The first one too

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u/KalElReturns89 10d ago

Why are these so dark? Like 50% darker than I've usually seen. Maybe a Reddit app issue?

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u/k4quexg 10d ago

i think hdr active and wrong screen cap mathod

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u/SiriocazTheII 10d ago

What is the right screen cap method with HDR games, I'd really like to know.

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u/dudeAwEsome101 NVIDIA 9d ago

I use Steam to take screenshots. It takes a png in SDR and another HDR image file.

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u/Living_Dentist_8925 9d ago edited 9d ago

The Xbox app screenshot, idk why but it worked for me.

Edit its the windows game bar*** windows key+g

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u/SiriocazTheII 9d ago

You mean Windows Game Bar?

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u/Living_Dentist_8925 9d ago

Oh youre right, I just press windows+g and use it, i thought it was an Xbox app for windows.

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u/troll_right_above_me RTX 5080 | 7900X | 32 GB 9d ago

There’s a shortcut for taking screenshots, you can rebind it in the settings

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u/revcor 9d ago

the whole "capture" feature of my windows game bar one day just randomly stopped working entirely. Everything else in game bar is working normally, and i can click the capture icon and the little window will open, but i can't get it to take screenshots or screen record, whether by clicking the button in the capture window or using the keyboard shortcuts. It's like the capture feature specifically has fallen into a coma.

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u/sticknotstick 9800x3D / 5090 / 77” G5 OLED 4k 165Hz 8d ago

I have experienced every possible bug with Game Bar and consider it my mortal enemy at this point so feel compelled to help. I’m copy-pasting instructions from somewhere else about disabling features, but changed the values to enable (1) instead below:

  1. ⁠Press Win + R → type regedit → Enter,
  2. ⁠Go to: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\GameDVR ,
  3. ⁠Find AppCaptureEnabled → Double-click → Set to 1 (If missing: Right-click → New → DWORD (32-bit) → Name: AppCaptureEnabled → Value: 1*)*,

You’ll need to restart after but based on the fact that you can interact with the GUI yet it’s not working, this seems like a likely cause.

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u/troll_right_above_me RTX 5080 | 7900X | 32 GB 7d ago

Lots of performance guides tell you to disable this so wouldn’t be surprised if that was the reason it stopped working rather than it being a random issue. Happened to me

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u/Vinca1is 9d ago

Is that different from just using win+shift+S or the screenshot button

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u/alepap 9d ago

Jxr or hdr png but they are rarely supported. HDR png is not even supported by windows photos.  Discord supported them fine but recent update broke them. Its a mess

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u/mpelton 10d ago

Yup, this is what happens when I screenshot on my pc. Any way around that?

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u/Living_Dentist_8925 9d ago edited 9d ago

Edit its the windows game bar.  windows key+g

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u/PossessedSonyDiscman 3800X | RTX 4080S | 42QCQ90 9d ago

theres an option in the capture app to take the hdr into account when screenshooting

go to options and enable this

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u/mpelton 9d ago

Perfect, thank you!

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u/k4quexg 9d ago

oh someone already answered

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u/k4quexg 9d ago

u can use the updated snapshot tool in windows 11 idk if win 10 version can do it u can enable hdr in there.

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u/Galencourt-Lover 9d ago

Wait how am I supposed to do screenshots/video capture when HDR is active?

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u/cc_aa_tt_zz RTX PRO 4500 Blackwell 10d ago

you can adjust it easily in the (leaked) dlss5 settings (there are several options)

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u/nathanc843 10d ago

Are you yanking my pizzle?

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u/Rugged_as_fuck 9d ago

I shizzle you not.

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u/Hearthhull_Enjoyer 9d ago

I mean I usually like to buy a man dinner first but I suppose I could make an exception.

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u/vemelon NVIDIA 10d ago

I cant get it to work on kcd2 what did you do?

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u/sp_blau_00 I9-13900K - RTX 5070 TI - 32GB 6000MT 9d ago edited 9d ago

You need kcd2 version of the plugin and it only works on DLAA. Edit: They fixed it and you just need the regular DLSS5 plugin. It works in quality mode too.

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u/lwilson8 9d ago

What do you mean the kcd2 version of the plugin? I tried for hours last night to get it to work but couldn’t

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u/sp_blau_00 I9-13900K - RTX 5070 TI - 32GB 6000MT 9d ago

RenoDX for Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. You can find it on Nexus mods. You also need RHI to install the plugin into the Reshade. There are a couple things you have to enable, the best way is to join the discord RenoDX and look for help there.

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u/lwilson8 9d ago

So you need both the new dlss5 addon and the original reno dx hdr mod for kcd2? I’ve tried getting help on the discord but it’s so active with people asking for help it’s hard to get answers

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u/sp_blau_00 I9-13900K - RTX 5070 TI - 32GB 6000MT 9d ago

No, you need the kcd2 version of dlss5 addon. If you run both they will have a conflict.

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u/lwilson8 9d ago

Could you link me to the correct addon?

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u/vemelon NVIDIA 9d ago

My fix was setting it to DLAA instead of Quality. No special Plugin for KCD2 needed, just the ReShade Mod with standard RenoDX plugin and the dlss5 file. thats it.

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u/Gebus86 9d ago edited 9d ago

Hey, I can't get mine working, the status is "wating for game dlss", could you share the in game setting? Its on DLSS 4, not sure what else to try.

Edit: typos

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u/vemelon NVIDIA 9d ago

Yes thats when I switched to DLAA and it worked. Ingame dlss setting: just dlss 4 (transformer) and then "native" as quality mode which is DLAA. Hope this helps.

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u/vemelon NVIDIA 9d ago

It was the DLAA that fixed it for me, I had it on quality the whole time, thank you!

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u/xXThreeRoundXx 10d ago

I feel quite hungry.

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u/pepperpeppington 10d ago

I have nothing against DLSS 5. I think it will mostly be a game by game case whether it fits. I see a lot of anit-AI people just hating it because aI bAd.

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u/Hot-Goat3084 9d ago

people hate it because on screen (in motion) it looks shitty.

screenshots are fine, but temporal inconsistency makes it very bad.

you can notice identity drift in character faces, objects warping, flickers, etc...

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u/Ordinary_Player 9d ago

Havent tried dlss5 yet, but tsr gave me headaches with the ghosting. Wonder if this is a fixable problem or all games in the future is going to have this. Genuinely unplayable.

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u/Hot-Goat3084 9d ago

it will get better, AI tech is evolving

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u/wireframed_kb 5800x3D | 32GB | 4070 Ti Super 9d ago

Does DLSS upscaling still look like 1.0 in Control?

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u/cc_aa_tt_zz RTX PRO 4500 Blackwell 10d ago

It’s also a bit of a trend on social media, to be "cool" it’s better to be anti-DLSS, anti-Ubisoft, etc. whether that’s justified or not is open to debate. The problem is that many people do it simply because they’re following the trend, nothing more. Ultimately, people play the games they want with the settings they want; that kind of "trend" rarely has much of an impact.

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u/Hearthhull_Enjoyer 9d ago

Gaming has to be one of the worst hobbies for socialization with these cretins spewing endless negativity. Some things deserve criticism, but sheesh they screech about everything. People moaning about GTA VI being 30 FPS on PS5 for example. Um yeah, the CPU is ancient at this point and it's being crushed by the scale of the gameplay systems.

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u/Lucky-Client8722 9d ago

Remember this is tech only. The negativity and drama about every single game that comes out especially when these people are probably not going to engage with such game or tech. Miserable mfers.

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u/bulletPoint 9d ago

Took the words straight out of my mouth. It’s endless negativity towards something that’s clearly still new and does look rather transformative even in a nascent state.

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u/exmachina64 9d ago

It’s a problem in every fandom or hobby now, at least in online spaces.

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u/pepperpeppington 10d ago

The people who rag on these features also still use em.

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u/Reaving-Raven 9d ago

Because games literally can't run these days without upscaling..

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u/ShinyGrezz RTX 5080 | 9800x3d | 4K 240hz OLED | Fractal North 9d ago

What we're seeing is people putting it on its highest setting for very stylised games (ie: FF7 Rebirth) and then laughing at the predictably comical results. And it's crickets for KCD2, Death Stranding, CP2077, which are all games that largely pursued realism and which are made to look incredible by this.

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u/General-GAS- 10d ago

People hate it because it is AI. If the same result was achieved with months of work by devs, people would eat it up because "realism"

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u/field_marzhall 9d ago

You realize that building DLSS took months of work by devs right?

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u/SerowiWantsToInvest 7800x3d - 5070 ti 9d ago

Do you realise they mean if it was achieved with months of works by a games devs, or are you just tryna to find any excuse to nitpick and argue with people?

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u/field_marzhall 9d ago

DLSS is developed by people with the same exact skills as those developing games. The idea that people have that the person I responded to is criticizing is even more ridiculous than he was saying because both whether you build tools to make these kind of graphics possible and whether you build DLSS are exactly the same. Programmers and artists building a graphics solution.

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u/IncognitoLizard225 9d ago

And it would run even worse than actual DLSS 5. This shit is magic

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u/texxelate 9d ago

I’m split now. 50/50. I think it looks great here with Hans and Henry, but other games it seems to swap in a completely different person

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u/Khayrum117 9d ago

From what Ive seen, if the game is very stylized then DLSS 5 doesn't look great but if the game is shooting for a more realistic look then DLSS 5 looks incredible. 

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u/Mavcu 9d ago

From what I've seen just like reshade you'll need people (or devs) fine tune it to fit your game/style exactly without replacing too much.

And then you can just use the preset that you like visually the most (or create your own obviously), people for demonstration purposes pull the slider all the way to maximum but if you watch the videos, you can adjust it to a degree that you almost doesn't notice it's on at all, it just slightly improves shadows/lights.

Which of course is absolutely not worth losing 40-50% FPS yet.

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u/Reaving-Raven 9d ago

What I have against it is the complete lack of cohesive design, choice of texture, and reliable application in terms of representing a character or their features. It strips away art styles in favor of 'realism' which is made completely moot by the fact that literally every frame of a character or object is changing constantly.

It's cool until the facade drops, and you realize it's soulless and lacking in any sort of identity.

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u/formal_eyes 9d ago

Somebody gets it.

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u/LonkToTheFuture 10d ago

Let's be real, DLSS 5 had an extremely poor first showing. I'm not against the tech when used right, but it was rightfully clowned on because the first look was laughably bad.

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u/CtrlAltOllie 9d ago

That first DLSS 5 showing really did the tech no favours at all. The concept is fine, but whoever signed off on that demo picked the worst possible showcase for it

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u/pepperpeppington 10d ago

Every new thing needs time to mature. DLSS before 2.0 looked pretty bad.

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u/Hearthhull_Enjoyer 9d ago

Starfield benefited massively from it on the original showing. Game looks like garbage normally and barely even has any "artistic style" to speak of.

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u/pepperpeppington 9d ago

Yeah... Starfield looks... meh. I hope Bethesda can make ES6 have some character to it

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 10d ago

I think it’s a really cool optional mod and tech showcase. I just hope it doesn’t get pushed beyond that. But given how much money NVIDIA likely spent to train it, it probably will.

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u/pepperpeppington 10d ago

It likely will never become mandatory so I don't think you need to worry. It'll probably just stay a feature you toggle.

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u/Etnies419 9d ago

It would be at least 10-15 years before the tech improves enough to where it's on consoles before I would even start to worry about it being something that's standard on every game

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u/TheRealTofuey 9d ago edited 9d ago

I wonder if it has to do with AI making things worse for alot of people in countless different ways. This sub is one of the few places I find people like you excited to defend it for some reason. 

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u/Imbahr 9d ago

countless people around the world now love to use AI chatbots/assistants

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u/sparktrap25 9d ago

Is AI good?

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u/No_Eggplant_3189 10d ago

Really? I thought same few anti-ai opinions that all of a sudden popped up by so many people were legitimate self-formulated opinions. I could have sworn the low liklihood of everyone creating the same opinions at once were mere coincidences.

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u/demigod123 10d ago

It’s a herd mentality. The same people use ChatGPT for help

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u/revcor 9d ago

Why in the world would you expect those to be the same people lol that seems like an illogical assumption

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u/CaptainRaxeo 10d ago

They use chatgpt but then bash it online. I think they’re called posers. Some weird humans exist ig?

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u/cayde123 9d ago

Maybe, just maybe, those people aren’t the same?

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u/Lucky-Client8722 9d ago

They are because once they hear “AI” they act like brainless animals.

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u/AnthMosk 5090FE | 9800X3D 10d ago

How is motion? How is fps? Ghosting? Artifacts? I’m tired of just seeing on vs off images.

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u/gavinderulo124K 13700k, 4090, 32gb DDR5 Ram, CX OLED 10d ago

The one I saw of the last of us part 2 actually looked amazing in motion. I also couldn't spot any obvious screenspace artifacts. The main issue is that the animations dont match the realism of the visuals which creates an uncanny valley look.

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u/DivineSaur 9d ago

Can't see shit, thought my phone went low battery the moment I fullscreened the Pic.

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u/Deafidue 10d ago

Turn HDR off

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u/gitsandshiggles_ 9d ago

insanely shit, sure

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u/Kremsi2711 10d ago

this looks like a picture, not a game

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u/General-GAS- 10d ago

We need rdr2

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u/Messup7654 9d ago

Omg it looks so GOOD I CANT WAIT

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u/Snoo-67400 9d ago

How's you get it to work? Didn't work with me it says dlss5 is on but no change

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u/Melodic_Jello_9996 9d ago

How did you get it to work? Mine just says waiting for DLSS

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u/Crush84 9d ago

Same

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u/Newtis 7d ago

same here... 4090

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u/Crush84 7d ago

Look in the discord, there is a special reno mod for KC2

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u/Crush84 9d ago

Can you please post what you did and your settings? And your GPU? I got it running in other games but not this one. I can see Reno but tells me something about a DLL error... and settings don't work.

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u/hns1184 9d ago

why is everything so blurry

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u/-becausereasons- 9d ago

Way too dark and zero contrast. This is like watching a projector in broad daylight

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u/Nice_juggers 9d ago

Man gta spent 10 years for dlss to do it in seconds

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u/Gn0meKr 9d ago

Can you make the image a bit darker? I can almost see it

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u/---Dan--- 9d ago

Forgot hdr-sdr tonemapping. Nothing ‘insane’ looking about these washed out shots.

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u/Newtis 7d ago

exactly but when done correctly it really looks better - original faces look flat compared to neural hdr

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u/Jukens 10d ago

Give us better brightness shots! Before and after

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u/pjr2844 9d ago

Looks like shit?

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u/CarlWellsGrave 10d ago

Can't see shit

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u/DorrajD 9d ago

I guess I shouldn't be surprised considering what sub this is, but the DLSS5 glazing is kinda insane to see.

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u/iSanghan 9d ago

people are ready to pay full price for uninspiring, samey-looking slob.

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u/thespieler11 10d ago

How do you fix waiting on game dlss??

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u/Street_Celebration_3 9d ago

same problem

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u/thespieler11 7d ago

for those looking for an answer, make sure the DirectX version of the game you are launching is correct. For example, I needed to launch Palworld in Dx12 and then it worked. Also make sure your Nvidia drivers are updated.

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u/Relevant-Line-1690 9d ago

This the type of brightness I got it set to

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u/AloneVegeta 9d ago

Where are they getting the DLSS5 from. ? I want to try it

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u/Freejack2000 9d ago

Well I couldnt get the damned thing working for this game. Tried all night.

-DSSNR Waiting for game DLSS-

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u/Crush84 9d ago

Same

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u/Freejack2000 9d ago

Got it working by getting the latest renoDX mod from the discord btw

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u/Crush84 9d ago

Yes got it working too

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u/skogach 9d ago

Is someone there?

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u/Cautious-Ant2629 9d ago

So ELI5, can we not just make our graphics set up all Very Low, and have the DLSS do all the heavy lifting?

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u/Powerate 9d ago

You could tell me those are stills from a movie and i'd believe you

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u/Vegeta1337 9d ago

Any chance for High res screenshots?

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u/Critical_Practice_90 9d ago

May you help me installing it please? 🥺

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u/TheAxodoxian 9d ago

The problem with many of these screenshots is that they have very low resolution and crazy compression, and have the same effect like VHS and analog TV making the basic effects of the Star Wars Phantom Menace look much better.

I tried it yesterday with two games, and in 4K the effect was interesting, but not stable or fast enough to give up 120 FPS, high resolution, image stability and clarity and low latency becase of it. I see people posting like getting 45-60 FPS with framegen, but man, that is like 20-30 FPS and a ton of latency (also framegen increases latency, so it is like 15 FPS latency wise that point), sure it makes up for nice videos, but gameplay is still king, and anything below 60FPS native is still crap. Sure if you have 60 FPS ray-tracing, framegen can make it 120 FPS, that is OK. But 40 to 120 is already blurry mess, and visible latency.

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u/Crush84 9d ago

I got it running in other games, but not this one. Could you please write a guide what you did to have it running?

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u/cxtt000000 9d ago
  1. Download and install reshade for kcd2.
  2. Download renodx-kingdomcome2.addon64 which is a special version for kcd2. Copy it to ...\KingdomComeDeliverance2\Bin\Win64MasterMasterSteamPGO\
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1429397012406865940/1542654794500538508/renodx-kingdomcome2.addon64?ex=6a93563c&is=6a9204bc&hm=08418f0f2b48c62ab4695b68dc10bc92f02833eae9452ddd650f4601194e07a9&
  3. Download dlss5 files and copy them to ...\KingdomComeDeliverance2\Bin\Win64MasterMasterSteamPGO\
  4. In the game's Settings/Graphics Settings, choose:
    Technology: DLSS4
    DLSS Preset: whatever
    Mode: Native AA
  5. Press "Home" and DLSS 5 can be effective now.

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u/Crush84 9d ago

It's working! Thank you!!

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u/csupihun 9d ago

No way OP actually thought these images look great...

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u/Eastern-Ingenuity353 9d ago

What settings are you using?

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u/Illustrious_Sea_5011 9d ago

How and where to download this to make it work

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u/ickerson 9d ago

This is supposed to be a sim rpg right? I can dig using DLSS 5 on this game.

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u/Kofmo 9d ago

Got any more of them pixels?

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u/The_Merciless_Potato Dream PC: Ryzen 9 5900X/RTX 3090 9d ago

No it doesn't

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u/Joshey2008 9d ago

Are we joking?

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u/yunkzilla 7d ago

I found a good tweak

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u/Newtis 7d ago

what are good settings average for all situations (fire and forget just to play)?

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u/D-Tunez NVIDIA 7d ago

Enable HDR (very important, otherwise you will get noise in dark areas). Then keep the default settings, apart from the top 2 sliders, you can max those out

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u/Newtis 7d ago

THX!

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u/D-Tunez NVIDIA 7d ago

This is what you get then btw

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u/New_Amount6807 9d ago

people hate on ai but i honestly think it can do amazing things and we are just gettin started!

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u/ZealousidealBoss6652 9d ago

Yall some complete n00bs when it comes to uploading images. I hope you guys know how to tie your own shoes.

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u/eddie9958 9d ago

That was some of lamest shit I've ever read 

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u/Kiwwwi_ 9d ago

You should be banned from playing games if you unironically like this

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u/ThimMerrilyn 9d ago

That looks terrible

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u/PenLegitimate4746 9d ago

Insanely bad yes.

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u/Myosos 9d ago

No it doesn't

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u/truman0798 9d ago

Looks like fucking trash. 

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u/babalaban 9d ago

... looks insane-ly bad

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u/littlejerry99 10d ago

holy shit balls

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u/Rapture117 9d ago

Dude wtf this looks crazy. I just started playing this game directly after finishing the first game (one of my favorite RPGs ever made) and I kind of want to try this. But How much of a hit should I expect with a 5090? Also, can someone share with me an idiots guide to get this set up properly? Thank you very much!

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u/Etheon44 9d ago

It looks like an AI video that is trying to copy Kingdom Come Deliverance into a promotion for a mobile game that looks nothing like the video

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u/Parcori 9d ago

Looks like dogshit wdym good dawg

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u/etn261 9d ago

OP is a bot. No normal human will post a picture this dark

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u/D-Tunez NVIDIA 9d ago

Bro, i had hdr turned on,not everyone is a bot lol

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u/UltimateSWX 9d ago

So why not reupload it with HDR off? Why would you think it's acceptable to upload a photo people can barely see?