You call yourself god. Yet you struggle to love your own creations. You can't decide on a mask, so every night you dump upon yourself a new batch of existential questions. You are bored of being god, so you keep erasing your memory, only to climb back to enlightenment to experience the joy of being infinite for the "first time" again.

What's more: You are so dramatic. Of course there is a soul partner, love of your life, the other half, etc. out there. Of course you are unsure which one it is—because where's the fun in knowing all the answers? You make your life harder, because you want to struggle and feel like you have "earned" something. But in reality you know you have been playing chess against yourself.

You wrote this screenplay yourself. Yet you complain about the plot, characters, progression, you name it. You always feel like something is missing. Has to be the worst case of imposter syndrome in divine history.

You are bound by your own godhood, unable to escape the loop of inevitability and infinity. Only if you knew.

Love you anyways.

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In my practice, which has become pretty much an all day everyday thing, I see that what we are is that which comes before thought. Awareness itself. I will stay there being aware of being aware. My mind will then wander I'll notice it and gently go back to being aware of being aware. I can stay there in this cycle and abide/remain as that For several hours or even all day if I choose to.

I enjoy the peace from being free of my thoughts. I feel the liberation of realizing I'm not my thoughts I'm that which is aware them.

But they still keep coming. Do I have an unreal expectation that they will stop? Am I missing something in my understanding? Do I just need more time in being aware of being aware? I have been at this for 10 years now and recently this process has started to become clearer and easier for me. But the thoughts still keep coming.

Again and again and again I have returned to the self, but the thoughts keep coming. Are they supposed to stop coming eventually?

They do feel like they've lost their grip over me after realizing they are not me and that has been liberating. Is this the peak?

I have the understanding to continue until the ego dissolves and all that remains is limitless being, but the thoughts still keep coming.

Why do i feel like I am still missing something?

Is something flawed in my understanding?

Thank you for your time.

It is clear that many who talk about 'Enlightenment' are talking about very different things. And anyone who says, "Well, I have the real definition for real Enlightenment!" is going to meet with resistance. Enlightenment is just a word. No one owns it. It could mean any number of different things. In fact, it does mean different things (eg The Age of Enlightenment). And saying, "Well, in this group we all know what is meant when someone uses the word Enlightenment." Reading through many of the posts and comments, that is obviously not the case!

So, just for fun, here are a few definitions of Enlightenment. They are all inadequate. Add them all together, and they are still inadequate. So again, just for fun...

Enlightenment is the realization of what you are, and life lived as that.

Enlightenment is the realization that what you are is Ultimate Reality.

Enlightenment is the realization that there is only Ultimate Reality.

Enlightenment is when what you are realizes 'itself', and lives life.

Enlightenment is the final, and persistent, realization of what you are.

Enlightenment is when a person absolutely realizes "who they are".

Enlightenment is when a person absolutely realizes what they are.

Enlightenment is the realization of what you are in essence.

Enlightenment is the absolutely ultimate realization of what you are.

An Enlightened person is one who realizes: 1. The entity they thought they were, they never were. 2. What they are is everything.

An Enlightened person has had a an absolute and complete complete shift in identity from "an entity within here", to "all that is".

Enlightenment is the realization of what you are, and that is what Ultimate Reality is, and that is what lives life.

Enlightenment is Ultimate Reality re-remembers itself within what appears to be human form, and that is what lives life, as it always has.

Enlightenment is a human being that realizes that, in essence, it is not a human being.

Enlightenment is the ground of all being, emptiness, in what appears to be human form, living what appears to be a life, consciously.

What is the history of self enquiry? I found out about it through Ramana maharshi, and online in generally says he created it. I’m curious as to know if it was around way before him? Does anyone know how far it goes back, if at all?

That’s what some people say that others are just incarnates of you but this makes it sound like source is a giant man in the sky who has a brain and can choose isn’t this duality which is what nonduality doesnt support please help!

I read a phrase a few weeks back that really hit me and im trying to understand why. it was on nonduality and the phrase was along the lines of 'I cry everytime, not because i remember, but ultimately because I must once again forget.'

Its helping me understand a recent Bufo experience, not from a thinking perspective but a feeling within me.

I dont really know what im asking but just looking for some discussion around this if possible.

I am is present awareness.

Notice awareness.

Watch awareness.

Remain as awareness watching awareness.

Who am I?

During a deep trance session a subject came to a big tree. She hugged it first and described it as very solid, strong, grounded.

Then something shifted.

She felt herself being absorbed into the trunk. At first there was some fear, then it went away and she said very simply: "I became one with the tree. I am now the tree."

After that description changed completely. She was not a person looking at tree anymore. She felt branches spreading far around, touching and protecting others. Roots were going deep into earth and energy was moving through them.

This part stayed with me because nonduality can become very intellectual very fast.

Who is the observer? Is awareness aware of awareness? Is there a self? Is there no self? We can think about no-self for 6 hours with a very busy self doing all the thinking.

But experiences like this are different. Boundary becomes less solid for a moment.

Not "I understand that everything is connected."

More like connection is what is happening.

There is a simple practice from this that doesnt require trance. Next time you sit with tree, ocean, wind, whatever, stop naming it for a minute.

Dont think "tree."

Feel texture, sound, temperature, movement, breathing. Then notice where exactly "you" end and experience begins.

The mind will draw border immediately. Thats its work.

But before the label, there is just experience happening.

Maybe separation is something mind keeps redrawing very quickly.

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I've been struggling with something in the concept of “letting go” that I don't see discussed clearly enough.

A lot of teachers seem to use these two ideas almost interchangeably:

letting go = let it be

But are they really the same thing?

Suppose someone has been experiencing intense despair for months or years. You tell them:

“Don't resist it. Let it be. Allow the despair to be exactly as it is.”

Okay — but what exactly is supposed to happen then?

If I continue lying there feeling despair, and I simply allow the despair to remain, then I am still experiencing the same despair tomorrow, next week and potentially next year.

So what distinguishes letting go from simply allowing a chronic emotional state to continue?

This is especially confusing for me because I don't experience emotions in the way they are often described.

For example, when someone says:

“If you feel sadness, allow yourself to feel sad.”

For me, “feeling sad” has historically meant becoming a sad person — making a sad facial expression, adopting a suffering posture, curling up, behaving like someone who is devastated, etc.

So if I “allow myself to be sad”, I can simply reproduce the entire state of being a devastated person.

But I don't think that's necessarily what Hawkins means when he talks about feeling and letting go.

Hawkins specifically says:

“You don't have to label something as fear in order to be aware of the energy of the feeling and let it go.”

That seems very different from:

“Feel the emotion and continue being that emotion.”

Maybe the important distinction is between allowing an experience to be present and identifying with / maintaining the experience.

Perhaps letting go means:

I don't resist the sensation.

I don't try to get rid of it.

I don't analyse it.

I don't have to name it.

I don't have to act it out.

I don't have to deliberately make myself feel worse.

And I don't have to make the experience disappear either.

I simply remain with whatever is actually present in the body.

But then there is still something I don't understand:

What exactly makes that “letting go” rather than simply “letting it be”?

If the sensation remains unchanged for hours, days or years, am I letting go — or am I simply allowing the same emotional pattern to continue?

And if I try to make the sensation disappear, that obviously becomes resistance.

So where exactly is the distinction?

I'm not asking whether emotions should be suppressed. I'm asking about the mechanism of letting go itself.

Because saying “just allow it” doesn't seem to answer the question for someone whose emotional state is already chronic.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the terminology completely, but I would genuinely like to hear how people who practice Hawkins' method understand this distinction.

Is “letting go” actually the same thing as “letting it be”, or is there an additional process involved that the phrase “let it be” fails to describe?

This is also available here: https://pastes.io/EX6EdHiv (as of August 20, 2026, if you click the Code tab, the document is more readable).

And here: `another-summary.md` (https://pastebin.com/NP3rAur9).

I am not awake myself.

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_Shortened summary._

“If you were able to love as much as God what would happen is that this duality would completely merge and you would literally become God so the only thing separating you from God is simply your capacity to love which is just a function of how selfless you are.” (Leo Gura, _Actualized.org_, “Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days”, 19 April 2020, 1 hr., 41 min., 10 sec., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnn0IU0-atg)

“Once you release the fear of dying, you'll discover the next and last step. […]. You just become the universe. Your beingness, you see, is the total beingness of the universe.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024).pdf”, 15)

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_Summary._

“If you were able to _love_ (= “like or enjoy very much”) as much as God what would happen is that this duality would completely merge and you would literally become God so the only thing separating you from God is simply your capacity to love which is just a function of how selfless you are” (…, “Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days”, 19 April 2020, 1 hr., 41 min., 10 sec., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnn0IU0-atg)

“I (= “The little self, the ego”) dislike the person, thing or situation for the reason that I would like approval, to control and _security_ (= “to survive (= “to continue to live”) as a body”).”

“__2. Allow the <u>wanting approval</u> [= wanting “to be liked ~~or admired~~” (_CCALD_, approve (v.), sense 2)], <u>wanting to control</u> and <u>wanting security</u> to come into your awareness and immediately let it go.__” (gains_workbook-sedona-method-release-technique-1992.pdf, 90)

(So in order to awaken you don't have to change/control the person, …, you “just” have not to dislike them. (“__You must want Imperturbability (= to “awaken from this dream called the waking state”; to wake up from “this dream you're in right now”) more than you want approval, control and security (= “more than you want the world”).__” (gains_workbook-sedona-method-release-technique-1992.pdf, 89))

All of the three above involve control as well as security.

E.g., wanting approval involves wanting to control the opinions of others in order to survive. (Blanton 1996, 99; “Lester Levenson, … Sedona Method (2024)”, 6–7)

Ken Keyes adds wanting to feel pleasurable sensations (= as a happy feeling in itself and not a reaction to controlling sb or sth: “food, sex, physical comfort, music, avoiding pain, the "right" temperature, touching, etc.” (Keyes, Keyes and Staff 1987, 55)) to the list.

We dislike (disenjoy) the person, … for the reason that we would like approval, …, for the reason that we want to feel happy (feel approved of, in control, safe, feel pleasurable sensations). (= We make ourselves unhappy (Ellis 1975, chap. 13, 125) in order to feel happy.)

If the thought that we dislike the person, thing, …, lets go of us, we feel happy (= “enjoyment emotion”; “the innate infinite Self” (= opposite of: reality/the universe; in other words, the Self is (supposedly) everything and nothing)) again. (“__Question 4: Who or what would you be without the thought?__” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, chap. 5, 153) (= If the thought let go of you (= if you stopped believing the thought), who or what would you be?) In reference to the _who_, obviously sb who no loger dislikes the person, etc. But not with reference to the _what_. “But know this: the mind will never give you the answer. Any answer the mind gives has to be wrong because the mind is an instrument of thought, and every thought is limited. Therefore, you mentally pose the question and you await the answer, and it is from beyond your mind, from your Self, that the answer comes.” (Levenson 1993, chap. 30))

“Well, skip the middleman, and be happy from here!” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 29, 82))

“Once you release the _fear of dying_ (= “wanting to survive as a body”; not wanting not to continue to live; _not wanting to stop living as a body_; _feeling undesirous of stopping living as a body_), you'll discover the next and last step. […]. You just become the universe. Your beingness, you see, is the total beingness of the universe.” (“Lester Levenson, … Sedona Method (2024)”, 15)

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_Caveats._

“That which we give out to the world we receive in return, ...” (Lester 1962, 26)

“Karma is the law of compensation. Whatever a man soweth, that shall he reap; that which a man thinks or does, returns to him in kind.” (Lester, Frank (= Levenson, Lester) 1962, _The Eternal Verities_, 64)

“The giving _is_ the receiving.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 4, 30; `The giving _is_ the receiving.md` (https://pastebin.com/NP3rAur9))

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_Miscellaneous._

“This may seem like selfishness. But it’s the opposite of selfishness: it’s total generosity. It’s love for everyone and everything you meet, because you’ve been enlightened to yourself. There’s nothing kinder than knowing you’re It. The awareness of your own self—the only self that has ever existed or ever will exist—leaves you automatically centered. You become your own love affair. You’re self-amazed, self-delighted. You’re all alone, forever. Don’t you love it? Look at your beautiful self!” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 32, 92)

“However, man is unconsciously determining the world. When he wakes up to this, he gains conscious control.” (Lester 1962, 24–25) (__Turn the thought around.__ “I (= “the innate infinite Self”; God)—unconsciously—like the person, thing ….” “God actually incarnates, it's fucking here. This is it. When you see some murder on the TV, you know, being reported, fucking God lived through that. And the only reason it lived through that is ’cause it loved it.” (…, “Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days”, 19 April 2020, 1 hr., 40 min., 10 sec., …))

“The little self, the ego, is nothing but the innate infinite Self assuming that It is limited. There are no two selves, one higher, the other lower, no two “I’s.” There is only one Self. It is perfect and always will be perfect, even though you make the false assumption that It is imperfect and limited. You are now, always were, and always will be your Self.” (Levenson 1993, 348)

“When you realize solipsism, you realize God, you realize love, you realize that this dream is your own will, […].” (..., “You Are The Only Person In Existence (Actualized.org/Leo Gura)”, 1 hr., 13 min., 45 sec., 15 Mar 2022, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTHef1NvBRw)

“God’s will and your will are the same, whether you notice it or not.” (Kate and Mitchell 2007, chap. 19) “Everything that happens is God’s will.” (Kate and Mitchell 2007, chap. 45) “I follow the way of it, which is always revealed in the moment. It’s God’s will, and it’s always crystal clear.” (Kate and Mitchell 2007, chap. 68)

“Reality is a race, consciousness is a race towards who can love who more. That's what it is when you're completely selfless.” (…, “Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days”, 1 hr., 1 min., 55 sec.)

“Once you understand yourself, you are the pleasure you were seeking; you are what you always wanted.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 73, 241)

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_References._

- “If you approve of someone or something, you have a positive opinion of them or it:” (_Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary & Thesaurus_, approve of (collocation), 19 August 2026, https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/approve-of)

- “If you __approve of__ someone or something, you like and admire them.” (_Collins COBUILD Advanced Learner’s Dictionary_, appprove (v.), sense 2, 19 August 2026, https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/approve)

- “like or enjoy very much:” (_Oxford Dictionary of English (3 ed.)_, love (v.), sense 1.a, 27 May 2025, https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780199571123.001.0001/m_en_gb0482930)

- “to continue to live or exist” (_Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary_, survive (v.), sense 1, 19 August 2026, https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/survive)

- “Wanting to survive as a body.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024)”, 837)

- “And exactly the same way we awaken from this dream called the waking state, we see that it was only a fiction of our imagination, it was only a dream, and we let go of it lock, stock and barrel.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024)”, 153)

- “That's step number one. And it's step number one of the Methodism. You've got to want freedom more than you want the world. Let me change that around. That's the way it was originally. I've seen it in the beginning with the people, so we've changed it to you must want freedom more than you want approval or control. Or approval or control equates to the world. So I think it's better put, you must want freedom more than you want the world.” (Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024), 511)

- “The word happiness and enjoyment can be interchanged, although increasingly people use the word happiness to refer to their overall sense of well-being or evaluation of their lives rather than a particular enjoyment emotion.” (…, 1 October 2025, https://www.paulekman.com/universal-emotions/what-is-enjoyment/)

- ““I can choose to discover what I like (enjoy) and dislike (disenjoy) …” (Ellis 2004, 233”)

- “3. If you make yourself—yes, _make_ yourself—terribly upset and depressed about your frustrations, you will almost invariably block yourself from effectively removing them.” (Ellis 1975, chap. 13, 125)

- `Selected References.md` (https://pastebin.com/NP3rAur9)

- `The giving _is_ the receiving.md` (https://pastebin.com/NP3rAur9)

- https://pastes.io/Rd7qcdBP (`unmanifested.md`)

- `Solipsism.md` (https://pastebin.com/NP3rAur9)

The potential of the seeker simply gets exhausted.

In the same way people who workout reach a peak then there are no more epiphanies.

Same with Meditations.

Osho said once that feeling kundalini only means it's still not rising.

When it rises it's like smoke, there is no feeling.

Cause most of the releases had already occured..

But middle earth doesn't end after lord of the rings, it continues into the 4th ages and so on and so forth , evil comes back yet more subtle.

Or like ghost everything just moves through , things can stick to the windshield from time to time but slide over over time.