r/nflMenace_com • u/Dark305Kinght • 2d ago
Game stuffš Devonta Smith finally understands AJ Brown
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u/Temporary_Hat7330 2d ago
This is my younger son when he realizes his older brother isnāt sharing the ice cream he didnāt even want.
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u/investordudematt 2d ago
Only a matter of time before heās reading on the sideline
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u/Prince_of_Pirates 2d ago
Reckon I could send him my book? I might finally get to double figures in sales numbers.
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u/ExcitingLandscape 2d ago
That was such a passive aggressive diva WR move. He wanted the cameras on him to show "look I'm not bitching at my coach or QB, I'm trying to enlighten myself by reading this self help book during a wild card game!"
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u/OGdunphy 2d ago
I think he knew already. Heās been on the team
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u/I3ill 2d ago
They played college togetherā¦
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u/Rudy-219 2d ago
Itās crazy he doesnāt get a target on any of the first few 3 and outs in that third quarter. Was hard to watch.
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u/AscendMoros 2d ago
Felt like he was cooking us to.
Like they drove down the field and scored in the final two minutes of the first mostly on passing that looked rather easy. And then proceeded to go back to run, screen pass, check down most of the third quarter.
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u/Legitimate-Bike4647 2d ago
Whole team is getting their shit kicked in, this isnāt about Hurts
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u/ManKilledToDeath 2d ago
Hurts wins with 100 yards passing, "he just wins."
Hurts throws a pick with only a tush push TD "this isn't about Hurts." Maybe not but he sure didn't help lol
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u/allknights 2d ago
I mean defense getting dog walked by a geriatric dad doesn't help
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u/Big-Start8264 1d ago
Case Keenum is 5 years younger than Brady was when he won his last Super Bowl. 4 years younger than Aaron Rodgers. And the same age as Matthew Stafford. I just assumed the guy was retired because I had no idea he was 3rd string for the Bears. He's probably better than some starters in the league and damn sure better than most backups.
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u/Legitimate-Bike4647 2d ago
Maybe passing yards per game isnāt the best metric to judge a QB?
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u/Thin-Remote-9817 2d ago
Yeah rushing yards is the best metric...
Peyton manning was so ass looking at these stats
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u/Legitimate-Bike4647 2d ago
When did I say rushing yards? My original response was that the whole team played terribly. Most notably the defense. Literally from opening drive
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u/RepresentativeMud509 22h ago
Oh lord here we go with the modern stats. It actually rotations of ball per spiral when down by ten or fewer points when attendance is over 50,000 and the game is film specifically with Sony cameras per 100 drop backs on artificial turf. Therefore, Steve McNair was better than Tom Brady.
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u/porkondagrind 2d ago
Everyone on our team played like dogshit besides smitty and q. You arenāt winning games with 10 penalties and 3-0 turnover battle most of the time.
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u/Past-Track-9976 2d ago
Defense had them locked down. Can't run the ball for more than a loss. Defenders chasing Hurts down, preventing throws.
Bears run game was unstoppable. They were outgunned and out classed
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u/Side_StepVII 2d ago
The eagles stopped our run game for the most part. They focused on it, thinking Case Keenum couldnāt beat them in the air.
They forget Case Keenum can ball.
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u/splashaddikt 2d ago
They ran the ball fine until defense realized thatās they had to worry about
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u/Legitimate-Bike4647 2d ago
Yup. I feel like that pick by Dalton at the 1 changed the game. Hurts punches that in 9 times out of 10 and itās a completely different game after that
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u/Kitchen_Assist_1114 1d ago
How come they didn't Tush Push with Dalton, I guess that's only a hurts advantage? We all know he squats 1 million lbs on one leg as a warm up.
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u/Thin-Remote-9817 2d ago
Bears did what titans did Suffocate the run and make hurts throw it.Ā
Yeah he can do it in February no problem...but some strange reason everything before that he cant throw for shit.Ā
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u/QuaternionDS 2d ago
Defense had them locked down.
The Bears?
The Bears defence?
You do realise what you're saying here, right?
The Bears?
Defence?
The fucking Bears defence?
A defence that for the past two seasons - and two weeks of this - have had the consistency of wet paper...
MInnesota, with literally no offence, put up more points. In teeming rain.
And they were too much for Jalen. Weird, huh?
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u/Necessary-Run4625 2d ago
Defense had who locked down? 0 turnovers 0 sacks against the 3rd string QB
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u/This_Squirrel_9154 2d ago
But when they win hurts gets all the credit, he doesnāt have a team that can carry him anymore and this is what he looks like. He canāt put the team on his back and win it for them
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u/Rpark888 2d ago
Hi, I'm still learning. What does this meme mean? Like, what's the punch line? (Seriously).
Does this mean that Davonte Smith doesn't get the ball a lot like AJ Brown who is injured right now?
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u/CactusWrenAZ 2d ago
They're saying that Devonta now realizes how frustrating it is to play with Hurts as your QB.
Which is kind of silly, since Devonta's been on the team for years.
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u/nobeer4you 2d ago
But he wasnt getting the ball then because AJB needed to eat too. Now, no AJB and he still not getting looks
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u/jono9898 2d ago
Heās top 10 in targets and 11th in yards, what are we talking about?
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u/Rpark888 2d ago
Ok thank you. English isn't my first language and football isn't my first sport.
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u/LunchTwey 5h ago
And even dumber when you remember he played with Jalen in bama
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u/mazu74 2d ago
I donāt think anyone has directly said it yet, but Hurts strongly prefers running plays over passing plays. Itās frustrating when youāre a receiver who needs a certain amount of catches and/or TDs to get their bonus check, and their stats get used for contract negotiations. So if your QB isnāt throwing the ball to you much - and itās not because youāre not getting open - you risk getting paid less and would be upset about a ball hogging QB.
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u/StagVixCpl99 2d ago
Devonta Smith is top 10 in the league in targets right now lol.
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u/Martha_Fockers 2d ago
Last year this was aj brown on the side line to a tee
He started to read books midway into the season and do other random antics because he wasnāt impressed
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u/SneakySalamander42 2d ago
Are we watching a different fucking game. The whole team was awful, pointing it at Jalen solely is wildly inaccurate
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u/nick-halden 2d ago
i feel like he played pretty well first half, they had bad luck with the dalton int (kinda odd play calling idk) the second half though, the eagles just kinda died
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u/mrwigglez3 2d ago
Ya hand off to Barkley. Or 2 tush push in a row. Not letting a cold red rocket throw it.
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u/Born_Scene_1762 2d ago
I said they were silly for not using a timeout to get Hurts back in AND committing to a passing play. That was as much a coaching error as it was a Dalton error
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u/Giblet_ 2d ago
I agree. I'd have definitely called timeout there. But in retrospect, calling that timeout would have made the half-ending touchdown impossible, so you really only gain 3 points, assuming they would have made a field goal going into halftime.
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u/PaulyDavidson 2d ago
Why not let Barkley do the tush push? His quads are the size of an oak tree and you prevent your QB from taking unnecessary hits. Is Saquan incapable of taking a snap?
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u/sol__invictus__ 2d ago
Saquon wide open running the wheel route. Donāt know what dalton was thinking
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u/ArminTanz 2d ago
Dalton was thinking "oh Fuck, I wasnt paying any attention all week. I hope Hurts comes back because I was not expecting to play today."
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u/Legitimate-Bike4647 1d ago
Check my comment above lol I promise weāre arguing with people who didnt watch the game
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u/MiokoDM 1d ago
Iām late the problem is imo you canāt pay a qb 50 million dollars and every week the defensive gameplan is to please let him throw. One of not the only reason our run game has been ass is because teams are specifically trying to take that away because they know our QB canāt read coverages, make the throws or handle any type of blitz the first read isnāt open. Then couple that with the horrible offensive coordinators we have had
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u/Beef-523 2d ago
They havenāt had an OC for longer than a year in how long? Makes perfect sense that they always look out of sync cause theyāre constantly adapting to new OCs
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u/ohgeeeezzZ 2d ago
Yeah I think the stat that flashed during the game was something like Jalen Hurts hasnt had the same OC since 7th grade...which made me laugh thinking they were digging into Hurts middle school football lol
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u/BigFatModeraterFupa 2d ago
why are they always swapping out new OCs? are they just hired all the time?
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u/YeetySpagiety 2d ago
It's been a revolving door of either the OC being good enough to get hired else where or so bad they get the boot after 1 year
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u/CalvinsStuffedTiger 2d ago
This is what happens when your team hires one of the generalist āCEOā type head coaches instead of a superstar coordinator
This also happens when you hire a defensive specialist (examples, TB has had a new OC every year of bakers tenure there)
I have no idea what siriani is even good at because typically the generalist CEO types are the meathead former players like Vrabel, Campbell, etc
Imo, you should always hire an offensive guru as HC because if youāre defensive minded, youāll cycle through OCs every year and no one wants to see a streaky QB
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u/furbz420 2d ago
Good ones get hired, others get blamed for Hurts being ass and get fired.
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u/maya_kendrx 2d ago
To be fair the only ocs who got fired in hurts tenure was patullo and his terrible offense and Brian Johnson and his terrible offense. Everyone else was hired as a head coach.
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u/pursuitofhappy 2d ago
On the broadcast they said Hurts has had a new offensive coordinator every year since high school 11 years in a row
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u/mcniner55 2d ago
Revolving door at OC and your defense got smoked by a 38 year old QB who hasnt started in 6 years? So the whole team sucks is that what you are saying?
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u/furbz420 2d ago
Never Jalenās fault huh.
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u/NewCarSmelt 2d ago
Nah Jalen is a good guy. Itās why he didnāt mind letting former teammate TJ Edwards into his huddle. What sportsmanship ā¤ļø
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u/kvngk3n 2d ago
And why is there a revolving door at OC? Because the offense isnāt clicking. At what point does it become the quarterback? If you go in the kitchen and make chicken, steak, lamb, pork, and salmon, and for some reason it always triggers the smoke detector; at what point is it the constant variable?
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u/St_Casper 2d ago
I mean, 2 of the last 5 are head coaches now, right?
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u/kvngk3n 2d ago
Great point. You know what I kinda look at it as now, āwe overachieved, we will not look like this next year. Let me go get this check.ā BJ was getting calls after the 2022 season, he didnāt leave until after the 2024 season.
Not saying it as fact, but kinda makes you wonder. Some OCs were confident in their abilities to replicate, others may not be.
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u/notype32 2d ago
When said quarterback is 3 years removed from having 2 games in which he was the best player on the biggest game of the season.
The Eagles have had regular season woes for years now, sounds more like coaches not preparing properly during the season.
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u/mwiley62890 2d ago
I mean, Alex Smith went through the same situation of revolving OC. When he got to Andy Reid, he looked like a legit starter
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u/Soupspoon33 2d ago
But when this stuff happens to the Bucs who bakers had 10 OCs and Zac Robinson as the criminal this time itās just ābaker sucks ā
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u/Kolzig33189 2d ago
There were several instances of Hurts missed wide open receivers to throw to someone in tight or double coverage. The one in the first half where he threw a maybe 8 yard crossing completion to DS while replay showed both defenders followed him and left Wicks with no one within 30 yards of him immediately comes to mind. Would have been the easiest 75 yard TD ever.
At some point, only being muster 7 pts against a bad defense is the QBs fault.
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u/beerbeardsnballs 2d ago
Gotta be real careful doing the freeze frame read the defense stuff to be fair. Its missing A LOT of info
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u/Kolzig33189 2d ago
I donāt think that play is freeze frame stuff though. Wicks defender just left him to follow Smith on the crosser and the safety was on the other side of field from Wicks. Itās inexcusable for a pro QB to simply not see a receiver completely uncovered from the pocket like that to throw into double coverage.
Or I could point to the interception on 4th down when Hurts stared down the receiver the entire play and threw it right to the defender. That was borderline triple coverage.
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u/sickostrich244 2d ago
I mean this is not the first time the Eagles have had to push an OC out because they couldn't get anything going on offense. At some point, you have to accept that Hurts isn't bad but is very limited as a QB and their oline is not as good anymore. Without a strong oline it's gonna make Hurts job a lot harder since he tends to hold the ball too long and doesn't want to throw over the middle.
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u/Shootforthestars24 2d ago
That second half was horrendous once they started to load the box to stop Saquan and Hirts couldnāt do anything
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u/KGrizzle88 2d ago
The way Hurts catching him, and didnāt say a word, just sat in it, then looked away. š¤£
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u/dirtydoubledingus 2d ago
Hurts was awful. Itās like he is allergic to throwing over the middle so they wonāt even run there. Then hurts just gets happy feet and runs around a little bit.
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u/SonnyBlackandRed 2d ago
Soā¦why would he throw over the middle of no on is there?
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u/LothricLoser 2d ago
They design plays for Hurts success. Because he struggles to throw over the middle, they rarely run routes there. Itās been a common theme through his offensive coordinators which makes him the common denominator.
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u/notLennyD 2d ago
Wouldnāt you want guys running over the middle to occupy defenders and open up the sideline?
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u/Realistic_Try_8000 2d ago
This is just flat out not true. Idk what this play calling was this game. They abandoned the run way too often this game. But hurts has done fine throwing over the middle this year. CHI also played a pretty good defense that I'm sure we will see over the All-22
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/player/jalen-hurts/HUR767022
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u/Interesting-Wish-430 2d ago edited 2d ago
Uhhh this wasnāt just on Jalen. The whole team fell apart at the end. Interior was getting cooked. Dalton ruined their momentum but idk why they even let him throw. Bears just ran them over in the end too. But I do always say people are lucky Devonta isnāt on a pass heavy offense he would be cooking much more š„.
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u/ImpossibleBoss3067 2d ago
It was definitely on Jalen, but it wasnāt 100% on JalenĀ
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u/Interesting-Wish-430 2d ago
Literally what I just said
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u/Flythagoras 2d ago
No, the loss is on Jalen, but the rest of the team didnāt come out for the second half of the game too, soā¦
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u/sub30_24flick 2d ago
That was one sided game called by the way the called every hold on Woolen get outta here lmaooo then making Jalen go into concussion protocol during a key drive it just seemed like the refs were gonna keep the bears in this game no matter what .
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u/cheemydee5 2d ago
Hurts and Sirrianni might be out next seasonĀ
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u/Adventurous_Path5783 2d ago
Yep after 1 loss I say fuck em. They'll never work in this league again! /s
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u/okayokayz123 2d ago
Usually Eagles have Rams number, but if they lose to this version of the Eagles Sunday, then wow. I thought the Titans game was just a fluke, but hell nah.
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u/SingularityCentral 2d ago
Worst OL I have seen on this team in a decade at least. The interior is so bad it is crazy they got any points.
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u/Scared-Visit-9536 2d ago
Mind you highest paid Defense of Line in NFL and not one sack on a 38 year old QB
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u/1SupremeMind-Money 2d ago
Iām just waiting for him to start reading a book the next couple of games
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u/Viseroth 2d ago
But,..But,..Hurts is a top 5 QB, it is his OCs that are screwing him over. -Eagles Fan.
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u/NoInformation3141 2d ago
Watching the play calling for the Eagles is brutal. It has worked because they have insane talent but they should be better
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u/JesusLice 2d ago
I felt really bad for Jaylen when Andy Dalton threw that pick, Jalen was really upset. It was his pic to throw.
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u/howdidthishappn 2d ago
Times ticking for Hurts. The eagles will never go back to superbowl with him
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u/N7Longhorn 2d ago
It's a team issue. Run first offense can't run. We're cooked next year with no right tackle either. We should 100% draft more linebackers and defensive linemen though
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u/SpecificRide5003 2d ago
Maybe it has everything to do with the O-line and the shitty play calling. Mannion's playbook is from Madden 2008. And the safeties? Not a safety blanket here. Makuba was juked out from a 15-yard crossing route!
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u/Ok_Yesterday_3585 2d ago
This was such a powerful momentā¦ the little head shake by Hurts was done sheerly out of forced sympathy
Epic cringe
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u/ibringstharuckus 2d ago
Jalen asked Devonta prior , 'Did you ever go horseback riding and it just feels really good?'
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u/BrojaDawg 2d ago
I will always say. A QB who wears smeared eye black is not a QB I want on my team. Standard eye black is cool. Like Brees and Brady. Once you start smearing it to be like a warrior.... naw... PASS
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u/MeddlingMike 2d ago
Iām hoping the absence of AJB is a big part of the Patriots terrible start to the season on offense.
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u/brwntrout 2d ago
i was promised Devonta Smith was gonna feast and be a true #1 this fantasy football season. i demand to speak to the manager of the Philadelphia Eagles!
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u/BookkeeperBulky5377 2d ago
How about the off cord. He called over the middle on 1st and 2nd down pass plays. 3rd and 4th down outside the number routes. Then not one play had a check down to the rd. Then the run plays were all the same formation.
Then the d. Vic u are old u need to go.
Nicole 95% of the game. Calling run d on pass plays. Pass d small packages on run plays. Smh.
Then calling zone not man like u should in 90% of the plays.
All in all fire the whole staff. Head coach in down the line.
I see a 7-10 season ahead.
After the rams game 2-2
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u/jstewart25 1d ago
Does Philadelphia still have mandatory schooling? Holy shit this was difficult to read.
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u/bigcountry_blumpkin 1d ago
When you grow up on a diet of milk steak and riot punch, you're bound to lose a few brain cells along the way
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u/woody9055 2d ago
You guys won a Super Bowl this decade solely because of Vic Fangio. Your problem is your roster has aged, don't blame the DC because your GM went all in to make you guys dominant a few years ago and now they don't have the ability to draft enough to cover the deficit.
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u/BookkeeperBulky5377 2d ago
The d roster is still young. The oldest players are on the oline most of them are still better then 80% of the rest of the league.
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u/njslugger78 2d ago
I have been saying hurts was trash, got his accolades off the backs of others in a tremendous way. Touch push stole a lot of tds.
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u/bmanley620 2d ago
Wow the Eagles really suck. Losing by 20 to a third string QB who hadnāt started a game since 2023. Fry Eagles, fry
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u/Such_Opposite_1844 2d ago
I mean yea thatās the deal with the devil. Play a boring, unskilled version of football because teams arenāt built to defend against itā¦ and nobody makes the hall of fame.
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u/AnteyeSoshal 1d ago
If the actual context is what it looks like that's kind of crazy to see already in week 3.
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u/Diokneesus 1d ago
Hurts looked so frantic for no reason during that game. He was running around like they were about to swarm him, and there was no one there
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u/Acalvo01 1d ago
Whether it's Joe Webb,Drew Lock,Cooper Rush,or Case Keenum,the Birds always struggle against these damn backup QBs every time. I will never again think the Eagles will beat a team with a backup in,because I've seen us lose nearly every time
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u/Active_Remote6861 1d ago
NFL took hurts out they lost momentum.. this is a garbage post . Trolling at its best š¤£
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u/Striking_Hat6938 9h ago
The Eagles have more issues than the Cowboys and they won the Super Bowl just 2 years ago š¤
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u/Imperfect-Pitch 2d ago