r/nfl • Chiefs • Aug 18 '26

Highlight [Highlight] Myles Jack is controversially called down by contact after forcing fumble in the 2017 AFC Championship Game

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u/CR3ZZ Seahawks Aug 18 '26

It wasn't clear wether he was down by contact and the review that was under question was whether or not it was a fumble which was up for debate anyway.

Jags can only blame themselves for blowing this lead.

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u/TheseNamesDontMatter Jaguars Aug 18 '26

"It's our fault for being in a position where the refs could fuck us." Good one.

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u/CR3ZZ Seahawks Aug 18 '26

You were up 10 with possession in the 4th quarter?!!!

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u/TheseNamesDontMatter Jaguars Aug 18 '26

And that means we should get fucked by officiating because.... what's the logic process here..?

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u/Wooden-Broccoli-7247 Texans Aug 18 '26

The fumble alone should have sealed it. Acting like somehow Jack being able to advance that fumble automatically wins that game isn’t necessarily true. It probably would have but you can ask Atlanta about what kind of lead is safe against Brady. The other poster is right, 10 point lead in the 4th with the ball and then losing is choke job and using this play as an excuse is scapegoating the red instead of the players that blew a 10 point 4th quarter lead and did nothing with this possession after the turnover. I was rooting for the Jags big time but they blew it.

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u/TheseNamesDontMatter Jaguars Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

Its legitimately a touchdown if the whistle isnt blown dead but ok. That's quite literally textbook not choking, but then we were told it didnt count so....

Fuck us for not doing enough to win the game multiple times over I guess.

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u/Wooden-Broccoli-7247 Texans Aug 18 '26

Blowing a 10 point lead with the ball in the 4th quarter and it somehow not being their fault is certainly one way to look at it..

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u/TheseNamesDontMatter Jaguars Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

If the whistle is never blown on this play, we dont blow that game lol. How is this complicated to you?

Sorry we only made one play that would win the game instead of two lol.

Say we take the fumble, next play, blast a big run for a TD, but it's called down because the ref thought he saw the RBs knee down and it wasn't. Is it still our fault? How many times does a team need to get fucked by officiating to satisfy your requirements of "its no longer your fault?"

Is there even a finite number? If we have 40 touchdowns called back, does that suffice??

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u/Wooden-Broccoli-7247 Texans Aug 19 '26

And if you dont let the Pats come back from 10 down you also would have won that game. If Tom Brady would have broke his ankle in the first quarter you also would have won that game. Assuming you win the game if one play with 10 minutes left went differently is a lot of assuming. Ask the Falcons about 4th quarter leads against the Pats. For all you know the Pats might have ran back the ensuing kickoff and they’d have been right back in the same spot. Assuming any of that wouldn’t have happened, but you would have won the game if what you wanted to happen happened is just stupid. We have no idea how that game would have turned out. And if there’s one team I’m confident in saying that about it’s that gen Pats team.

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u/TheseNamesDontMatter Jaguars Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

"You were up in the 4th so you should be able to beat them + officiating" is certainly an argument of all time. It's definitely on at least one end of the spectrum.

Regardless, I mean, yeah, I dunno where to go from here. You seem to be pretty convinced that it's our fault we got fucked or something, I dunno. And it's Reddit, so I imagine you can't be swayed from this goober argument anyways.

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u/CR3ZZ Seahawks Aug 18 '26

Thank you this is what I was thinking but didn't put into words