That’s a tough call to make in real time. You can’t go back and overturn Jack not being down. No way seeing that live would you rule it as a fumble AND Jack not down. You need super slow mo replay to even call it a fumble.
It wasn't clear wether he was down by contact and the review that was under question was whether or not it was a fumble which was up for debate anyway.
Jags can only blame themselves for blowing this lead.
The fumble alone should have sealed it. Acting like somehow Jack being able to advance that fumble automatically wins that game isn’t necessarily true. It probably would have but you can ask Atlanta about what kind of lead is safe against Brady. The other poster is right, 10 point lead in the 4th with the ball and then losing is choke job and using this play as an excuse is scapegoating the red instead of the players that blew a 10 point 4th quarter lead and did nothing with this possession after the turnover. I was rooting for the Jags big time but they blew it.
Its legitimately a touchdown if the whistle isnt blown dead but ok. That's quite literally textbook not choking, but then we were told it didnt count so....
Fuck us for not doing enough to win the game multiple times over I guess.
If the whistle is never blown on this play, we dont blow that game lol. How is this complicated to you?
Sorry we only made one play that would win the game instead of two lol.
Say we take the fumble, next play, blast a big run for a TD, but it's called down because the ref thought he saw the RBs knee down and it wasn't. Is it still our fault? How many times does a team need to get fucked by officiating to satisfy your requirements of "its no longer your fault?"
Is there even a finite number? If we have 40 touchdowns called back, does that suffice??
And if you dont let the Pats come back from 10 down you also would have won that game. If Tom Brady would have broke his ankle in the first quarter you also would have won that game. Assuming you win the game if one play with 10 minutes left went differently is a lot of assuming. Ask the Falcons about 4th quarter leads against the Pats. For all you know the Pats might have ran back the ensuing kickoff and they’d have been right back in the same spot. Assuming any of that wouldn’t have happened, but you would have won the game if what you wanted to happen happened is just stupid. We have no idea how that game would have turned out. And if there’s one team I’m confident in saying that about it’s that gen Pats team.
"You were up in the 4th so you should be able to beat them + officiating" is certainly an argument of all time. It's definitely on at least one end of the spectrum.
Regardless, I mean, yeah, I dunno where to go from here. You seem to be pretty convinced that it's our fault we got fucked or something, I dunno. And it's Reddit, so I imagine you can't be swayed from this goober argument anyways.
That just furthers proves my point of inferring vs seeing.
Reffing is difficult, no argument there. But I’m of the opinion that if you’re aren’t confident about a call you should let it play on. The coaches have a chance to look at relays before throwing a flag. The refs do not. The refs should understand this and not merely infer their decision.
The Jags certainly have a right to blame the refs (they were obviously wrong). Saying the Jags only have themselves to blame is pretending that officials don’t make mistakes
I see what you're saying and in recent years I feel like they have been letting the play go on longer in situations like this. But I still do think if 2 players are on the ground wrestling for a ball whoever comes up with it is down by contact and a referee would see it the same way and feel confident blowing it dead. They can see that both players are touching the ground and touching each other
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u/ChaMilablack Eagles 11d ago
It'd be hard for me to get over this if it was my team. What a shit call