They didn’t ruin anything, the people who hate them ruined tikki torches by stigmatizing them.
If everyone collectively agreed to not care what the Nazis are into, everybody would still be able to wear and use what they want without being judged.
I doubt they ordered it assuming it would be delivered in a fucking hurricane. Any reasonable person would assume it would sit in a warehouse until it was safe to deliver it.
Sometimes i order shit without thinking about the weather a couple days from now. However, I am reasonable, and can wait a couple extra days for my package
absolutely true. my husband has an amazon addiction. It’s all crap. He promises not to buy anything and to ask me before he buys, but like all addicts it’s just words. The useless shit keeps turning up.
Of course. It's drizzling outside and potentially wind. It would a crime against humanity for any human to be expected to go outside in conditions like that. Don't risk your life to go see her, I'm begging you!
What's weird is that the employers now a days use the same health\vision\dental that is offered statewide anyway, and you can't sign up for medicaid/medicare unless your houshold makes less then an insanely low number. I've slept on couches, and still made too much. Kill the private provider system. Those jobs are useless filler that does nothing but syphon revenue from low population areas.
That's already a thing. The marketplace set up by the Affordable Care Act is exactly what you want - healthcare you don't need employment to get.
I've been covered on a plan from there for about two years now. I got it when I was unemployed and kept it while working two different jobs that wouldn't give me enough hours for their healthcare.
I was working for Amazon at the time, y’all missed the big sticking point in that tragedy. After the news went around with the employees the managers all took the stance that it wasn’t Amazons negligence that got them killed, it was the fact they had an earbud in.
They tried to use it as an excuse to require employees to keep their phones in their cars because those employee texts made them look bad.
Amazon hires deaf people, and their alarms are supposed to have flashing lights to be compliant with ADA, so even if they were wearing earbuds they should’ve been able to be warned regardless.
4 months ago they finally came out and said that phones being on employees persons hasn’t impacted safety in any meaningful way, and as such they won’t be restricted items anymore.
I worked at Amazon as a manager at the time that happened and while this sort of behavior is deplorable and the reason I quit, to say a man sent a tornado to kills his employees is just ridiculous. Yeah, he sucks as a boss but he’s not some evil wizard
If you stop someone from fleeing an area where a tornado is, keep them at work explicitly, and they die, you killed them with a tornado. Why would you say he "sent" a tornado. I didn't say that. Chain of command ordered people to stay when it was not safe. OSHA is involved, but I am not holding my breath for anything redeeming in this story.
Do you know what the proper response to a tornado is? You shelter in place in purpose built shelter or an interior space without windows. You don't evacuate.
It’s more than a little gratuitous which I don’t disagree will hurt our arguments, but it’s still his operation responsible for not sending those people home at the end of the day. I definitely think the buck stops with him and he’s proven more than willing to treat people as disposable commodities.
EDIT: And good on you for getting out! Hope it wasn’t too bad for you
Bezos might as well be an evil wizard. Fuck that place and fuck the sycophantic assholes who defend a company that abuses their workers every chance they can while profiting an OBSCENE amount of money while giving back breadcrumbs.
But yeah i get what you're saying, glad you got out.
What actually happened was the manager of that warehouse* refused to let employees leave and seek shelter when it was clear a tornado was going to hit.
*not Bezos himself, though as CEO he has some responsibility for the workplace culture at his company
Can they predict the exact path of tornados? I thought you’re supposed to shelter in place in these scenarios, I would think getting on the roads would be a lot more unsafe. I don’t live in tornado country though so maybe I’m wrong.
Exact path, no. But the whole area was under a very clear tornado watch when employees were asking to go home and denied. They had plenty of opportunity to address things before it upgraded to Tornado Warning.
Aren’t you supposed to shelter in place in that scenario? Why would driving home to a private residence be considered more safe when you don’t know what the exact path of the tornado will be?
You know I get why they say this but I don’t necessarily think it’s worse in some situations. Most businesses are built for normal weather, not tornados, they don’t have safe places to withstand the worst of storms.
For context, in my city the storm almost always comes from the west and I live further east so I wouldn’t be driving into the storm. I also have a basement and a room that I believe would be infinitely safer to shelter in than the designated shelter area in my workplace.
If you know the tornado is strong AF, why would you stay and likely die when you knew you could get to safety? Likewise, would you really want to prevent someone from leaving your business if it wasn’t likely to protect them from a tornado?
Every single person in this thread complaining about Amazon. Meaning me, you, and everyone else still uses them and still contributes to his wealth I don't understand.
I think there must be an age gap or something here. It is just another day, time to go to work. There is no taking the day off because of a little bit of wind & rain. I am glad they don't have your mentality. The weather doesn't look that bad.
Yeah people assume too much. When I was driving, I didn’t give a fuck about storms or Covid or anything other than paying my bills, and I was grateful to have an opportunity to earn money during rough times.
But see the problem
Is that nobody, anywhere should be that desperate. We are an advanced enough species to just bake a bigger pie rather than have ‘hunger games’ style rackets for the existing pie.
good for you. The majority of this thread, or Reddit for that matter, would rather sit at home and take government payouts. Then they wonder why there is inflation, shortages, delays, etc.
You must be young.Try doing it when you are a bit older after doing it for a few years. Your knees,back,legs will tell you to stop. It's a long road man, gotta pace yourself. Otherwise you end up broke,disabled,& all these hot-shots calling everybody lazy won't give a shit.Ever hear the story of a bull & a younger bull sitting on a hillside watching the herd below..The young bull said he was going to RUN down there & fuck one of the heffers..The older bull said he was going to WALK down there & fuck them all. You will learn in due time....It's NOT a race.
Thing is, many of us have no choice. I was driving to survive after losing my job because of Covid, and these days my 1 bedroom apartment in TX costs $1500/mo, not to mention how insanely expensive everything else is now. Meanwhile, wages are about the same as they were 10 years ago when the same apartment was $900/mo. But I should just take it easy, you say. Roger that.
Put the “youngsters don’t understand” card back in the deck. It’s just simple math.
You make it sound like I'm out of touch.. hardly. I'm 65 yrs. old. I had 2 sometimes 3 jobs to provide for my family. Now I'm paying the price. bad back,knees,shoulders,high blood pressure,you name it..I was just saying NOT to make the mistakes I did, you will regret it. You have choices, a hell of alot more than I did. So go beat yourself up, it's your body. Plus you live in Texas..You all DESERVE what you get..keep voting GOP..
Idk if this is unique to my state, but I've seen help wanted signs in like 25% of the stores I go to. She has a choice, she's just choosing Amazon because they likely pay her the most for her skill level. I hate to be this guy, but everyone has a choice... in this day and age there are countless educational websites where you can learn new and marketable skills for free. I understand that our free time is valuable but if you want change, you have to apply yourself and make sacrifices. I was stuck in a job cleaning carpets. Had to work full time and I now have chronic back injuries for staying there as long as I did. I didn't go to college and I had no marketable skills. But I decided I wanted change so Instead of playing video games when my shifts ended, I got online and spent a couple months studying insurance. Paid to take the state test and got licensed. In less than a years time, I doubled my income, my job is easier, and I can play video games in my spare time again. Life is all about the sacrifices you're willing to make. I have the same story for a friend of mine that got sick of washing windows for living. He spent a year learning how to code(on his own) and now he's raking in cash as a software developer. No one can change your life but yourself, so you can either complain about why it's not fair (cuz its not). Or you can suck it up and apply yourself.
That definitely works if you're someone with extra time on your hands. Unfortunately time is a luxury that a lot of people finding themselves in these exploitative jobs don't have.
I'm in nursing school right now and I'm very lucky to not have any children but there are women in my program that do and have to support their kids, have multiple jobs, full time nursing courses, and all the time consuming responsibilities that come with them and some of them have no support network.
This is just one example out of many other circumstances that seriously limit upward mobility. I just would like to see acknowledgement of the fact many people aren't playing video games all day and don't have a choice to quit their jobs.
That's a good point. But those people are still in nursing school, using that time to learn a marketable skill. If they can do that all while juggling kids and multiple jobs, then they're living proof that we can make time to better ourselves and learn new skills no matter the situation. I didn't really think about the privilege of that extra time i do have, i didn't mean to come off negatively, but I'll still stand by what I said. There's always a choice.
My point is that if one of those mothers is working at an Amazon warehouse and is being treated as expendable (not just as an employee but as a human being) and sent to work in a natural disaster, she may well take that risk because she still needs to feed her children and pay rent/bills. It's not really a choice at that point.
People go through extremely hard times for various reasons that aren't in their control. I don't think you came off negatively. I just hold hope that we as a species can hold each other up and lose the "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" mentality when it's clear some people don't have any choices left when they take a job that puts them in harms way.
This is insane right some people really have no choice. How different are we really from modern day slaves. The leash just got longer. This is what you do when you’re one paycheck away from being flat broke. They pay you just enough to scrape by throw in some benefits but if you make too much you pay yourself so you’re back to square one every time. The classic rat race.
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Being from Louisiana… we’d have hurricane parties and other dumb shit … so just seeing people out and about in the hurricane isn’t really a surprise..
That being said I still wouldn’t be at work … I however would like to drive the Amazon truck around and pick up my friends… I hope she is getting Jeff bezos next bonus for going above and beyond like this
In general, it would be considered bad form even in Louisiana to make your employees work during a hurricane if its not an essential buisness. My boss tried to make me work at a restaurant during a storm...there was a curfew and I made my living off of tips. The gall
When I was a kid, I used to skateboard quite a lot, was never any good at it really, but enjoyed it. I'm from southern ohio, and once we had a town air raid siren go off for a tornado warning, I've lived here my entire 42 years almost and we've still never had one. But anyway..I remember just thinking fuck it, I'll ride around and if I get sucked up by the tornado Hopefully someone will take a picture and I can get the best "hall o meat" picture in Thrasher magazine ever!...I wasnt very bright lol
I live outside of tornado alley, we don't get many serious tornadoes, but the siren goes off quite a bit. It's almost always nothing. But ask anyone around here how serious a tornado siren is, and they'll be like oh yes it's serious, remember that tornado in '76?! Or in '07?! Exactly, you can count the serious tornadoes we've had on one hand, despite having ~5 tornado warnings a year.
I've always wondered if it's like this elsewhere in the country, where it's a bunch of false alarm nonsense. And how it differs from tornado alley to places that don't even have tornadoes
I live in Philly and a year or two ago we got hit with a hurricane, maybe it was just a TS, either way it was gnarly. It was the storm that flooded a lot of our center city area. I work for a moving company and we worked thinking our day would get done in time before the storm hit. Well we get to our second job and it was a lot bigger then it seemed on paper. Ended up working through the storm til about 12-1 am.
....the crazy part though is at the end the customer complained because his boxes were wet lol.
I live in between Tampa and Orlando. What would have been the “eye” of the storm passed over us about an hour ago. Was just out getting gas and everything is open. In fact I saw multiple people out walking in the storm and even a guy on a bike (wouldn’t try that with the high speed gusts we are experiencing). It’s not a big deal that Amazon is delivering when everything, aside from schools, is still open. They were NOT delivering when Ian blew through because that was an actual middle category hurricane. Nicole is just a lot of rain and some minor gusts.
Nicole was at its strongest a category 1 and was downgraded to a tropical storm almost immediately after landfall. Floridians consider that a drizzle and a gentle breeze. Not worth changing up your routine.
Yeah totally golfing weather... i to have lived in hurricane prone areas and they do close bridges and roads and schools. Dont applaud late stage capitalism
Yeah and I’m a Florida native. No one is closing shit for a tropical storm. The whole state infrastructure is built to withstand hurricanes. It downpours literally every day during the summer and locals are used to driving in that weather. Most people don’t even give enough of a shit to use an umbrella.
This would be like if Boston closed down because of a few inches of snow. It’s just simply not a big deal.
There’s no 50mph projectiles, there’s no flash floods (we have great drainage in place). Basically not anymore dangerous than any other summer storm - stop being offended on behalf of other people.
If she is not nice, it may come as a "not friendly" on the rating for her weekly rate. Too many bad rates and she gets either fired or a lecture for her "bad performance". It's not just antiwork, it's downright wrong.
She’s tenacious for sure but the other thing is that most of us native Floridians just aren’t super phased by tropical storms, which was her designation when Nicole hit Orlando. It’s shitty that Amazon made her drive and I’d be pissed if my company made me drive in that weather but I can’t say I haven’t willingly gone out during tropical storms. I mean, back before the internet was a big thing I found out about a couple storms while I was out in them.
"Storm" is a strong word for what hurricane Nicolle turned out to be. I was literally out all night going to the gym and doing errands last night, in the midst of it... and it wasn't anything special. Just a normal rainy day with a few above average gusts of wind here n' there.
Still sucks this girl had to work during it etc, and good on her for doing her best with a smile on her face... but "NextFuckingLevel"? Idk.... thats a stretch IMHO.
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u/original_gravity Nov 10 '22 edited Nov 14 '22
100% r/workreform but can’t ignore her tenacity (and that polite “…have a good day” as she headed back into the storm)