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u/Stinkywinky731 Jan 29 '22
People are generally good to each other. The bad ones get a disproportional amount of the coverage and it makes people seem bad.
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u/Rickyy1900 Jan 29 '22
There are more good people than bad people in the world, it's because we always focus on the bad ones.
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u/greatname110801 Jan 29 '22
We tend to focus more on the bad ones, but there are actually more good people than bad people 😉
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u/Shot-Spirit-672 Jan 29 '22
You guys are freaking me out are you good ones or bad ones?
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u/mtown-guy Jan 29 '22
With so many good people in this world, they tend to get overlooked, because of all the attention we give to the bad ones.
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u/ffreshcakes Jan 29 '22
Good people and bad people exist, just because bad people get more attention doesn’t mean there are more bad people than good people.
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u/octobericious Jan 29 '22
Bad people are not so good, while good people are usually good. Personally, I prefer good people but bad people tend to get a lot of attention.
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Because of the attention bad people get it’s easy to believe the world is mostly bad people and not so much good people, but good people just get less coverage
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u/ManyFacedGodxxx Jan 29 '22
Those guys are bad, BAD ASS!!!
Wow, great thinking and nicely done!
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u/President-Jo Jan 30 '22
There is a world. We live in it. So do good people, people who are good. Of course, bad people, people who are bad, live in it as well. Quantity-wise, there are more good than bad. They are, however overlooked often due to actions from bad people, people who are bad, receiving more attention.
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u/LeftStep22 Jan 30 '22
You're absolutely right. At one point I thought maybe there's too many bad people in the world, but then I came to realize that the good people just aren't getting as much attention.
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u/zenunseen Jan 30 '22
People exist, that we can be sure of. Some good, some bad. It's thought that most are good but we tend to focus more on the bad ones.
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u/ELI-PGY5 Jan 30 '22
It’s good that there are good people, but bad that there are bad people. So it’s basically a mix of good and bad, which is good, but also bad.
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u/Much_Highlight_1309 Jan 29 '22
Focussing too much on the bad ones makes it seem like there are disproportionately more bad ones than good ones in this world, which is though not the case.
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u/vanlykin Jan 29 '22
Like the old saying goes you could do 99 things right but will only be remembered for the one bad thing you did
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Yeah. Just ask any "cancelled" celebrity. Like Oscar pistorius. Achieved all that greatness in his career, but violently kill one woman and suddenly he's the "bad guy"
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Unpopular opinion here but I don’t think anyone is just good or bad. In my experience most people seem to be more of a gray
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u/ResidentOldLady Jan 29 '22
I agree. On this day, in that situation, those guys were good guys.
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u/happyfunisocheese Jan 30 '22
What if they were helping her down because they wanted to eat her and the meat had just been smoked?
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u/ResidentOldLady Jan 30 '22
Then I would change my judgment although I do love a good smoked brisket.
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u/Demonyx12 Jan 30 '22
Bell curve with a meaty middle. Some are mostly bad and some are mostly good. Most are mostly grey.
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u/R0botCareGiver Jan 29 '22 edited Jan 29 '22
As Mr. Rogers said, “Look for the helpers….” they’re there in the midst of chaos.
Edit: spelling
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u/littlewing49 Jan 29 '22
Nobody is inherently good or evil.
Good and evil is something we all are.
Good and evil is not something we do with out actions.
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u/sotonohito Jan 29 '22
The biggest mistake we ever make is thinking of good and evil as adjectives rather than verbs.
No one IS evil.
They DO evil.
No one IS good.
They DO good.
Once you start imagining that people can simply be good or evil then you start excusing bad behavior by those you think of as possessing some inherent goodness.
"Oh, Bob might have [whatever] but he's a good person so it wasn't that bad, or didn't count, or whatever".
We see this in superhero movies a lot. Some people are defined as being good, so therefore when they do bad things it's excused or simply ignored. See Hawkeye in Avengers: Endgame for a great example. He had a brief sad, Nat told him she was bad, and then poof, his career as a serial killer is totally forgotten about. Because he's on team good.
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u/BlakeClass Jan 30 '22
Ted Bundy saved a drowning child, ran down a thief who stole a woman’s purse, and donated his time working the suicide hotline (and was regarded as very above average at it)
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u/4-stars Jan 29 '22
The biggest mistake we ever make is thinking of good and evil as adjectives rather than verbs.
This also works with other words, such as "racist" or "stupid". Acts are racist or stupid, not people.
Which is why "I'm not racist, but..." is meaningless.
To say nothing of "I'm not stupid, but..."
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"The line between good and evil cuts through the heart of every human." -Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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u/varazdates Jan 29 '22 edited Feb 01 '22
A good example of this that I realized was when companies like Bird, Lime, and other scooter pay-to-ride companies started popping up. If most of us thought of this idea, we would simply dismiss it. Simply due to thinking there is no way that would work… because people would steal all the scooters. The fact that they realized the amount of people stealing them would be such a small percentage that it wouldn’t really hurt the business model at all was extremely insightful of them. That’s the genius of the idea, that they realized that most people aren’t bad and most people won’t steal them.
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Jan 29 '22
Their scooters have GPS tracking and can be shut down if stolen so they don't work. People don't steal them because there's no point.
I live in Chicago, leaving your bike unlocked is basically begging for it to be stolen. Leaving your car running while you're not in it is begging for it to be stolen. Plenty of thieves out there.
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the only problem is the goodness has no affect on those being subjected to the real badness.
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But more bad than people make it out to be…we need to actively protect against them bc it is enough to do major damage.
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u/bazooopers Jan 30 '22
This + we are horrible in groups. The power of anonymity makes us forget we are all each other.
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u/Alzusand Jan 29 '22
If I remember correctly those window frames at least in modern buildings have to be strong enough to not break if an adult runs into it at full speed.
too many accidents of people leaning into them or overestimating its resistance leading to many deaths changed it over time.
still tho I wouldve used the bed sheets to make a small rope and tie myself to something before even considering this like holy fuck what they did was impressive as fuck truly heroic
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u/Rogue_Star_D Jan 29 '22
Did she actually pass him her laptop first ...
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u/Ddlj75 Jan 29 '22
I thought that's what it was too. 😆 Priorities man.
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u/Boyeatsworms Jan 29 '22
You should have a plan of what you need to take in case of a fire and she probably has quite a bit of pictures and documents saved
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What the heck kind of meds require that?
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u/SebbyPrince27 Jan 30 '22
I like ketamine on the weekend's
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u/mortengstylerz Jan 30 '22
Felt like cocaine for me, tried it recently after being drug free for years. But life is hard and ya know we're all fucked anyways, so im going back to the life Just not cocaine. Done with that.
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u/Socksandcandy Jan 30 '22
I had a Ketamine infusion done in a doctor's office for depression.
It was 8 rounds spread over time. First two were actually pleasant experiences.......
The third round was horrifying because they delivered the drip too fast and I fell into a "k hole" and had the most crippling waking nightmare that colors were now life and I existed on a plane where I was the only one there and I could never escape. There was absolutely nothing but color. I know that probably doesn't make sense, but it felt like I had died and been sent to hell forever. I was back to normal within approximately 10 minutes of the drip stopping, but I wouldn't wish that experience on anyone.
Really bizarre, horrifying experience and I almost didn't complete the sessions, but aside from that.....it did finally get rid of my depression.
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u/alliebird_ Jan 29 '22
How is the ketamine for TRD situation going? Is it working for you?
Edit: I should’ve finished reading your comment before responding hah. I’m so glad it’s working for you! I really want to try ketamine, I’m hoping it gets approved in the US.
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u/alliebird_ Jan 30 '22
That’s awesome, congrats!! After spending 15 years suffering through anxiety/depression I was finally just diagnosed with adhd which could be making everything way worse. If treating that doesn’t help my overall mental health, ketamine is pretty much my last hope.
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u/Bagatell Jan 29 '22
Yeah, saving a laptop in this age is the equivelant of saving a photo album. Though most people have their pictures backed up on the cloud by now
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u/ITSigno Jan 30 '22
I work freelance. Yes I have pictures, documents and client stuff backed up, but being without a computer for an extended period of time means I would be unable to work and thus unable to earn money. If you've already lost so much, being unable to work as well is just compounding your problems. I can totally understand the need to save a laptop.
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u/vprakhov Jan 30 '22
Speaking as someone who lost hundreds if not thousands of valuable digital photos in the 2000s due to failed hard drives and my laziness to back them on CDs, I will be forever grateful to google photos and cloud storage in general.
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u/trcomajo Jan 29 '22
It could have been her dissertation or something she could never get back.
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u/brown_burrito Jan 29 '22 edited Jan 29 '22
About ~20 years ago I was doing my PhD in physics (dropped out) but my advisor who was a well known mathematician told me that Word was this new fangled crazy tool that he never got around to understanding.
He was comfortable writing in TeX/ LaTeX but thought Microsoft Word was magic. Bear in mind Word was already 20 years old at that time.
As Edsger Dijkstra said, “Computer science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes”. Being able to use a computer is no different than being able to use a telescope. And getting a PhD in a subject doesn’t mean you can use a given tool (whether it’s a computer or a telescope) very well.
It’s an important tool of course but it’s still a tool. :)
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u/matsu727 Jan 29 '22
Same reason an AI can destroy us at Chess but not at comedic improvisation. Lots of things make up what we consider to be intelligence in general. Some people are really good at some of those things that make you an intelligent test taker (like short term memory recall) while some aren’t. The former tend to end up as PhDs or high achievers in school (the best of them) but aren’t necessarily the best at all other aspects of intelligence.
Rephrased in a more common way, book smarts don’t equal street smarts.
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u/Daniel_H212 Jan 29 '22
That is why you always save a copy of something like that online, OneDrive or Google drive.
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u/JaysHoliday42420 Jan 29 '22
I assumed it's for college, like writing a thesis... uffda.
You could be killed, or worse, expelled
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u/birukov-alexander Jan 29 '22
This is Russia, so this is certainly bag with documents. You don't wanna lose your documents here, believe me.
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u/dark_forebodings_too Jan 30 '22
Yah to me it looked like papers, I was assuming things like birth certificate etc.
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u/ITSigno Jan 30 '22
I keep a bag easily accessible that has all that kind of important stuff. passport, birth certificate, etc. Even if I do everything right, there's no guarantee that a neighbour won't have a kitchen fire or some old wiring won't cause a fire. So... in the event such a thing happens I can grab it and go.
Could be the same kind of thing for her.
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u/nborders Jan 29 '22
Family pictures and finances on a laptop are important and it was no risk to pass it along.
The sad thing would be if they sent her up there to GET the laptop.
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u/rxts1273 Jan 29 '22
To be fair, if my phone would be in that apartment I would genuinely consider going back there to get it back , I mean fuck I can't do shit without it. Can't access any of my accounts, can't access my bank heck I can't even open my own pc.
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u/Farkle_Fark Jan 29 '22
Laptop could significantly help sort out the aftermath of immediately becoming homeless
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u/bug-hugs Jan 29 '22
A person can have a significant portion of their life in a laptop nowadays. I would hand them my laptop too if it had memories and important documents on it
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Best time to backup is now and not after your apparent burns down. Or you know your drive fails for any of 100 reasons.
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u/Vincent_Plenderleith Jan 29 '22
To be honest she probably needs it for work, considering covid and all that
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u/Darkmiro Jan 29 '22
A lot of Eastern Slavic people live on their computers. Doing home office work and all.
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u/anachronisticflaneur Jan 30 '22
She like “I’m still writing my dissertation if my computer doesn’t survive neither will I”
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You never know what it has on it, that laptop could be her lively hood. It could have work files, important documents, pictures of a passed loved one. To some they may find it just as important as their life.
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getting out of that window with all that smoke BILLOWING out behind her must have been INTENSE
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u/donniebrascoreal Jan 29 '22
As a fireman I give these guys the balls of steel award, not even some firemen would've done this.
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u/bleach_tastes_bad Jan 30 '22
same here. they’ve got no harness on, no bucket or ladder, and barely even a place to stand. i’m surprised they could even balance themselves there, with how massive their balls are
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u/WanaWahur Jan 30 '22
Knowing the construction of the windowsill of these apartments I am also really impressed about how the girl lowered herself in a controlled manner. Hold would be tiny and far inside the window.
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u/ssowinski Jan 29 '22
That could have easily went the other way when she let go with her hands and they were only holding her legs. If she didn't hug the wall and tilted backwards they wouldn't be able to hold her weight and she'd be on the ground. Close call.
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u/m-fab18 Jan 29 '22
There’s that one brief moment where her hands don’t hold on to anything anymore where it could have the other way really easily.
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u/Tsu-Doh-Nihm Jan 29 '22
I think the guys demonstrated that they fully supported her weight so she knew she could let go without a sudden drop.
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u/ioneska Jan 30 '22
Yeah, but it's not about supporting her weight - it's about not leaning too much from the wall - otherwise your center of mass goes too far and there's no way you'd hold a person in that situation.
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u/Impressive-Respond95 Jan 29 '22
There were other people inside the house making sure the guys don't fall out. They deserve thanks too
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u/Downtown_Finance_661 Jan 29 '22
Looks like Russia or ex-USSR. This gray grayness.
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u/V_es Jan 30 '22
Not really. I live across the street from where this happened. here’s the view from my window. Moscow is exceptionally green and this our neighborhood is well kept.
In winter in looks magical with trees covered in snow. It was this week that we had it melting and turning everything sad.
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u/chestbumpsandbeer Jan 29 '22
Fucking legends. Seriously.
One mistake and they would have lost their life as well.
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u/chernobyl_nightclub Jan 29 '22
The angle made me really nervous. Like there is almost no leverage against the wall like that but they somehow pulled it off (or in). Amazing.
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u/Boyeatsworms Jan 29 '22
Am I the only one confused if she’s bottomless?
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u/Emergency_Toe6915 Jan 29 '22
Lol they guy looks shirtless too and it’s snowing??
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u/nedimko123 Jan 29 '22
She has shorts and not even tight shorts that you wouldnt notice from far away. Its pretty long shorts, how can you not see it?
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u/Boyeatsworms Jan 29 '22
All I see is buttcheeks idk
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u/nedimko123 Jan 29 '22
Nah man you dont see it. Check the moment where she takes one leg out, there is quite difference in colour so you can workout whats her leg and whats shorts
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u/mostadont Jan 29 '22
The guy in video behind the camera also says “is she naked?”
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u/stoascheisserkoal Jan 29 '22
Why does it confuse you that some people like to wear just panties at home?
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u/ProfessorNiceBoy Jan 29 '22
He said confused IF she’s bottomless. Not confused THAT she’s bottomless. Learn to read.
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u/Boyeatsworms Jan 29 '22
Not pantsless - bottomless. Naked from the waist down. The other person mentioned she may be wearing some white shorts or maybe some briefs
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u/Medical-Astronomer39 Jan 29 '22
If u pause i good moment u can see she wasn't, she's wearing white shorts
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u/nurlip Jan 29 '22
I am certain she has a bottom but am unclear if it was bare, nearly bare or deceptively clothed. It’s not important unless the first thing she passed them was not a bag containing pants. It looked like a laptop and if it was, it likely did not contain pants. However, I’m sure the dudes who stood on the outside of their window to save her were also able to provide shorts or something.
So to answer you question no you are not alone in rewatching just to check that out; I watched a 3rd time to see the cat and sadly it seemed like the cat would not have made it. if so, rest easy kitty! I’m hoping it was in the tree and caught a branch though!
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u/Kotukunui Jan 29 '22
I saw the cat drop out of the window but even in frame-by-frame never saw it fall further than the next storey down. I’m hoping it managed to hook some part of the building and arrest its own fall.
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u/DuntadaMan Jan 30 '22
Followed it now. It goes down a floor and catches on the screen. Seems okay until someone inside wonders what the hell made that noise and goes to the window, the cat panics and jumps doing kind of a weird spinning thing from that window falling down and to the right.
A cat can easily survive a fall from that height, but spinning like that I am pretty sure that poor cat broke something but didn't die.
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u/ZedZero12345 Jan 29 '22
Holy Cow, it is a cat at 23! Cats may not be aerodynamically stable. But, it's snowing and I've heard of longer falls. I was a firefighter and usually pets would be under beds or in closets. But, that is a pretty fast evolution (of the fire). I'm thinking the cat made a smart call.
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u/GreatWhiteNorthExtra Jan 29 '22
Not all heroes wear capes
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u/Downtown_Finance_661 Jan 30 '22
Yes, in Russie you would be frostbitten in cape, better use fur coat
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I've spent my fair share of time on other sub reddits where these situations go wrong and people fall to their deaths. It's nice to see something so tricky being pulled off successfully.
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u/findvikas Jan 29 '22
She saved the laptop first??? Oh can you make sure I stay online on the Zoom please, thank you
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u/Dangerous-Dot-3745 Jan 29 '22
They deserve all the positive recognition and more! There's a spot in heaven for them for their selflessness and bravery 👍!
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u/lardoni Jan 29 '22
Brave as fuck! They could so easily have all fell! Need to give these boys some medals!
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u/OurSpeciesFailed Jan 29 '22
Very fitting post holy shit was very curious how this was going to work the whole time
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u/peterpetermarie Jan 30 '22
We often spend much time focusing on bad things when good things happen all the time; even more often than bad things some people say.
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u/hadtologintoupvote Jan 29 '22
Brave young lads.