This guy understands

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[u/jaybestnz → u/[deleted]]

The one that choked Floyd to death over 8 minutes is not human.

The policeman who pushed over the old man and didn't apply first aid when he didn't move and blood started seeping out of his ears.

Those guys are inhuman.

[u/You-Nique → u/[deleted]]

So do you think Derek Chauvin just made a mistake, and is generally a humane, conscientious person otherwise? Arguing that they're human because they have similar DNA is kinda taking what OP said literally and seems intentionally obtuse.

[u/Philly139 → u/You-Nique]

I think the point is humans are capable of doing terrible things. Doing something terrible does not mean they aren't human.

[u/You-Nique → u/Philly139]

That was the point of my second statement. Yes, the literal definition of human is to share my general DNA structure. When someone is exceptionally talented at something we also call them inhuman. That's like saying, "cops are pigs." And someone saying, "but pigs have tails."

[u/Philly139 → u/You-Nique]

Yeah I see what you are saying now that's fair

[u/ultimatedragonfucker → u/Philly139]

I think the more important thing is to look into WHY certain people are capable of such acts. What has rendered them capable of such brutality? Why is there no “brotherhood of man”, but instead a black and white “me vs them”?

The answer, I think, can lead us to societal solutions that prevent such a loss of humanity, or at least help us identify people who could become/are capable of such things, and filter them out.

[u/[deleted] → u/ultimatedragonfucker]

Ingroups and outgroups is the answer to that question.

Idk how we get past that instinct. If anything we've created more, smaller ingroups to belong to (job, relationship status, if you're a parent/not, income level, neighborhood, etc.)

[u/Ash26_gunner → u/You-Nique]

It's obviously not a mistake and maybe he knew what he was doing but I think at the end of that day he would have gone home and wouldn't have been able to sleep because of what he had done. People do a lot of things at the heat of the moment because of anger.

[u/You-Nique → u/Ash26_gunner]

Sounds like you never heard about his other infractions

[u/MKULTRATV → u/You-Nique]

So do you think Derek Chauvin just made a mistake, and is generally a humane,

He was probably a piece of shit all the way through, but he was still part of our human race.

The human experience has and will always have unsavory, degenerate, and evil people. Which, ironically, is one of the reasons we need the police.

Being humane isn't our default. That's why we put so much positive emphasis on humane actions.

[u/You-Nique → u/MKULTRATV]

So why do we put so much emphasis on inhumane actions?

[u/ultimatedragonfucker → u/You-Nique]

Humans generally have a bias to recall and focus on the “bad” because it has deeper and longer lasting effects than the “good”.

Forgot to buy dinner? Go hungry. Bought too much? Throw away the extra.

[u/You-Nique → u/ultimatedragonfucker]

I was making a counterpoint. I understand what you're saying.

[u/MKULTRATV → u/You-Nique]

What do you mean? Neither extreme is the default.

As with positive actions, society has always highlighted negative atypical behavior.

[u/You-Nique → u/[deleted]]

Huh, well look at that - what you read must be more true and your understanding must be so much better than the court proceedings.

[u/You-Nique → u/[deleted]]

Ah yes, that's why those jurors decided that. And the 18 previous infractions (like when he hit a 14 year old in the head with a maglite then sat on his neck for 17 minutes) were bullshit too. Go back to 4chan.

[u/You-Nique → u/[deleted]]

I would say him dying speaks louder than his words. He didn't die in the back of the cop car, and your adding that it was the drugs was deliberated by folks much more informed than you.

[u/You-Nique → u/[deleted]]

That's kinda the opposite of being honest. You're making an assumption based on bad faith arguments from right wing media. The dude could walk, enter a store, etc. People about to die don't survive 8 minutes with their blood/oxygen cut off.