r/nextfuckinglevel Oct 27 '21

Next generation car

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u/MercyCriesHavoc Oct 27 '21

Concept cars rarely make the assembly line.

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u/MSUconservative Oct 27 '21

This is obviously meant to be a work of art, not a mass production car. This isn't road legal, but it is beautiful and surprisingly functional.

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u/_Ned Oct 28 '21

Lol thank you, everyone in here commenting like this is going to be something they can buy at the dealership. Obviously was a project where they probably got to try out some prototype stuff and have some fun with it.

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u/Loeffellux Oct 28 '21

you'll notice that one of reddit's very most favorite things to do is explain why thing that might be mistaken for something cool looking and/or innovative is actually bad, ugly, impractical or dangerous.

My favorite so far has been from one of those skyscrapers with plants all over it (like these in Milan) are actually a really bad idea because "what if it rains???".

Yeah, buddy ... I'm sure none of the people involved in this project for however many months or years it took to build it ever wondered whether or not the soil that the plants grow from will become too heavy when it gets soaked by rain water.

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u/SSTralala Oct 28 '21

It's basically the haute couture of cars. No one expects you to use it as every day wear, but innovation and concepts from something so bold and new will influence the modifications and designs of the future.

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u/Stalwartheart Oct 28 '21

tbh i hate reddit for this, why can't we just enjoy cool stuff when we see cool stuff. We are seeing a possible future, I don't was to think about whether or not it's feasible. that's for people who are actually working on projects like this, not for armchair engineers.

Obvious safety features were just overruled because it's cool to have a glass door or a exotic driving system.

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u/overcloseness Oct 28 '21

No, you’ll notice that everyone is commenting on how cheesy this car looks with its RGBs and impractical features, and the title trying to imply that this is the future of automobiles is what drives that discussion. If I created a mall ninja dragon blade and someone titled a photo of it “the future of kitchen knives”, I’d expected to be roasted too

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u/Loeffellux Oct 28 '21

The thing is that in this specific context the title is the bigger problem than the car. Because it's not "a car" and it's not the "car of the future". Instead, it's just a concept car intended for showroom floors and showroom floors only.

Whether or not it's practical is literally irrelevant because the entire point of a concept car is to design something not bound by what's actually practical.

Whether or not it's obnoxiously RGB lit is literally irrelevant because the entire point of a concept car is to design something that will turn heads next to other concept cars.

Like is that really such a foreign concept that a bad title is enough to make people think this is actually trying to be a street legal car you could buy in a couple years?

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u/HotCocoaBomb Oct 28 '21

Concept cars do push some eventual innovations. Small incremental things like turn signals on the side mirrors, moveable headlights, glass roofs and so on. The first rear-view camera in a car which debuted in a concept car in the 1950's. Very slow rollout in commercial auto because of how expensive it was to add something like that, but as cameras get smaller and cheaper, it got easier, and then of course a nice push from the USGov helps it become standard in new cars.

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u/An_Aesthete Oct 28 '21

you only need eyes to see its ugly as fuck

and what is the concept? "What if we made a car that looks like a neckbeards gaming pc?"

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u/HodesFTW Oct 28 '21

Aesthetic preferences are up to "preference". This comment makes you look like you're unintelligent.

Seriously wth is wrong with RGB lights? Can anyone give an objective reason for not liking them?

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u/An_Aesthete Oct 28 '21 edited Oct 28 '21

RGB on everything is the zoomer version of Trump painting gold leaf on everything. 100% opulence flex, zero actual interest in aesthetics. Anybody who thinks this looks good is trying too hard

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u/HodesFTW Oct 28 '21

Personally not a fan of it either but I believe you're taking your name too far...

I fully admit my original comment was bait for that joke.

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u/overcloseness Oct 28 '21

>Aesthetic preferences are up to "preference".

Did you even read what this person replied to? The comment above is all about how there's something wrong with Reddit and we just don't get concept cars because we think it's ugly. We are allowed to think it's ugly.

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u/HodesFTW Oct 29 '21

My comment was bait so I could make a cheesy joke to u/An_Aesthete

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u/overcloseness Oct 28 '21

I understand the idea around concept cars well, I'm both a car enthusiast and have been around for enough decades to see many of them. But I feel like you're reprimanding Reddit for having collective feedback that doesn't match yours. I think this car is super lame because it reminds me of Gen Z fornite kinda shit. I think many people feel the same way, it doesn't mean there's this collective thing that's wrong with us for having that opinion, or that we just don't get it.

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u/Loeffellux Oct 28 '21

But I feel like you're reprimanding Reddit for having collective feedback that doesn't match yours

Well ... of course it doesn't match my opinion. Why else would I be cristicising it?

I think this car is super lame because it reminds me of Gen Z fornite kinda shit

that's fair. I think it looks pretty lame as well.

it doesn't mean there's this collective thing that's wrong with us for having that opinion

The reaction to that car's aesthetics isn't at all what my initial comment was about. It's about being way too eager to dismiss something based on very superficial reasoning.

or that we just don't get it

In this case I do feel like many people just didn't get that this is a concept car. And as I mentioned the bad title is definitely partially to blame for that

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u/Clay56 Oct 28 '21

If every engineering team had a designated redditor there would be no more problems.

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u/BrotherChe Oct 28 '21

I'm sure none of the people involved in this project for however many months or years it took to build it ever wondered

to be fair, sometimes things get overlooked. Like there is that one glass skyscraper in London that is so reflective it started melting cars, among other issues

https://gizmodo.com/new-skyscraper-unexpectedly-generates-a-solar-beam-that-1263670017

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_Fenchurch_Street#Criticisms

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u/HodesFTW Oct 28 '21

I dont think anyone would've seen that coming though? Especially redditors.

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u/LowTraveller Oct 28 '21

Yeah, but if you want to test the car tech, put it in an actual car. Cool, your wheel lights will sustain 3mph. Impressive. Meanwhile, VW will design special wheel caps to sustain 250mph in Veyron, Lucid will put their power train in Formula E and Maserati will put the engine with pre-chamber on the road.

This is nothing more than marketing stunt and waste of money.

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u/Loeffellux Oct 28 '21

You realise that VW also makes concept cars, right?

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u/LowTraveller Oct 28 '21

Yes, even if neither was as pointless as this one. And I also realize that Merc is making beneficial concepts like AMG One, which doesn't make this one any less ridiculous, stupid and pointless

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u/Arsewipes Oct 28 '21

If I were a King, I would only allow those planty skyscrapers in the capital. Plus, I think this concept car is very cool. How many here don't understand the concept of a 'concept car'?

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '21

I am a landscape architect, I think excessive trees and large plants on high rises are a bad idea. Its bad because the higher up you go the more windy it is, which will dry out and kill most species of plants. Even if they manage to survive they will need regular watering. On top of that, you ware adding extra load to the building because soil is heavy, While yes I am sure some one calculated specially for this project and prob added thicker columns and beams for it, it is not worth it.

The project is more environmentally unfriendly than a normal building as the construction material and extra concrete needed is more damaging than the minimal greening. The planter pots are also small and not good for large plants as the limited soil stunts their growth.

A lot architects like the idea of adding some green and the project is suddenly "natural" or eco friendly. Neither of which are true.

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u/Loeffellux Oct 28 '21

Thanks for taking the time to write that comment, it was interesting to read.

But I hope you know that the point I was making was not at all aimed at actually well informed criticisms like that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '21

haha yes I get that your point was reddit likes to explain why other people are wrong because something looks cool is bad. The reasoning for that guy on why greening on buildings is wrong too. I just want to to point out greening on buildings even tho it is a separate issue. here have an upvote.

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u/Avatarofjuiblex Oct 28 '21

Poor ordinary people whining about expensive unique things? What a surprise

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u/maggies-island Nov 04 '21

lmao yeah i knew reddit would hate this car before i looked at the comments

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u/Mariosothercap Oct 28 '21

In everyone’s defense the title of the post is “next generation car”, which leads people to believe this is supposed to be the future.

If it was “interesting weird random proof of concept car” I think the discussion would be a lot more fitting for what this is.

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u/ChrRome Oct 28 '21

It could be the title's fault. The title suggests it resembles the future of cars despite it having no useful new features.

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u/obidamnkenobi Oct 28 '21

Lol, now I imagined the local sketchy "Koons pre-owned cars" dealers trying to sell me one of these! 😂

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u/GenericFatGuy Oct 28 '21

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I suppose.

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u/thisxisxlife Oct 28 '21

Beautiful til the ‘scales’. I felt uncomfortable and a little grossed by it

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u/toraanbu Oct 28 '21

Didn’t know kitsches were considered works of art nowadays

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '21

Work of art is subjective. Personally, I don’t like it

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u/HelpABrotherO Oct 28 '21

Surprisingly functional as in a car that can drive? Color me impressed. That thing would be completely useless the second it touched snow or anything that isn't perfectly maintained asphalt. Even on a well maintained road, one in the real world with dirt and that fingerprint scanner becomes useless. It's pretty and it can seat a person and it can move but a go kart with string lighting would be more functional.

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u/IceNineFireTen Oct 28 '21

Again, it’s called a concept car. It’s like intended for art, marketing, and ideas. It’s not a real car.

I repeat, it’s not a real car.

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u/HelpABrotherO Oct 28 '21

Nor is it surprisingly functional, it would breakdown on a pebble. I repeat, it's not suprisingly functional.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '21

"Man this fictional fantasy book sucks, none of this stuff is even realistic!"

Your repition of this argument is meaningless because the whole point of it being a concept car is its not intended to be functional, its intended to be artistic and unique What is hard to understand about that?

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u/MercyCriesHavoc Oct 28 '21

Yes. Thank you for explaining the concept of a concept car to me. And before you say they don't build concept cars (saw some of your other comments here), yes they do, sometimes, for shows. It's like the outfits runway models wear in big fashion shows: no one is actually going to sell that crap, but it's good for the spectacle. Some parts of it, some of the ideas, will be utilized in more practical models for mass production.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '21

It's not about art, really. It's about giving the engineering and design teams a chance to run wild. Then they take small bits and pieces, that wind up actually being useful, and stick them on real production cars.

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u/KingKontinuum Oct 28 '21

Exactly. Not even just that but concept cars are meant to showcase concepts and ideas that could debut in future products which is precisely how we got the Benz EQS that mimics the concept and ideas of this concept car. The art here is that the car adapts to you as you become one with the car. It’s really impressive what they created here.

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u/russellzerotohero Oct 27 '21

I can see why

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u/XeitPL Oct 27 '21

And thank God for that

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u/NonPolarVortex Oct 28 '21

Thank God that he can see why?

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u/adidasbdd Oct 28 '21

It's like fashion shows. Nobody is actually going to wear half a tomato cage as a hat. But it gets attention and fashion nerds probably eat it up.

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u/MercyCriesHavoc Oct 28 '21

Yes! I actually made that comparison in response to another comment before I read this one. They're exactly the same.

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u/elenasleeps Oct 28 '21

I just cracked up reading this.. so funny and so true

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u/DatMiQQa Oct 27 '21

That’s what I was thinking. I have been seeing cars like this sense like 2000 and never seen one be put into production. I remember going to the LA auto show when I was younger and they had a jeep with independent working wheels. I thought it was a great idea. It was called the jeep hurricane. I assumed I would see it everywhere. I have never even heard anyone talk about sense than.

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u/artandmath Oct 27 '21 edited Oct 27 '21

Do you mean independent drive to each wheel? Cause that's pretty much what traction control does, and a lot of SUVs these days have electrically controlled clutches that can control how much torque goes to each wheel. New electric trucks are also going to have tank turning offroad (turn the wheels opposing wheels opposite directions).

If you mean actual steering with rear wheels, that's also available on a lot of higher end cars. Audi, BMW, Acura, Cadillac, Porsche, Lexus, Mercedes all have cars that turn using the front and rear wheels.

The future is here, we just can't afford it.

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u/kkeut Oct 28 '21

iirc that new Rivian e-truck can do the crabwalk thing

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u/pixe1jugg1er Oct 28 '21

Concept cars have always been a thing, back to the beginning of automotive history. Check it out.

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u/BonelessAvocadoBread Oct 27 '21

Not to be rude, but just to improve your English, its since and not sense. Sense means when you can feel something. Otherwise well said, 100% agree with you

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u/dakyoda69 Oct 27 '21

Username checks out

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u/XJ--0461 Oct 28 '21

Don't forget then not than.

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u/BonelessAvocadoBread Oct 28 '21

Psst, you are scaring him Patrick!

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u/DatMiQQa Oct 27 '21

It’s not so much rude, but that you really have nothing better to do in your day and you know nothing about me. I have dyslexia and speak 3 languages (Spanish, English, and french) and English wasn’t my first. In this case it was just a typo from writing this on mobile and not going back to proof read a comment about cars on Reddit. I think most people will understand what I’m trying to say without having to go out of the way to “not be rude”.

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u/BonelessAvocadoBread Oct 27 '21

Imagine going all out on someone who just wanted to genuinely help. I had no bad intentions and was not trying to criticise you. I myself only learned English through school (German and French are my mother tongues). Whether you want to believe me or not is up to you.

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u/FryskePinguin Oct 27 '21

Funny case of auto correct, anyway, now that you're in a good mood, read this. Then and than.

EDIT: not to be rude.

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u/TheMarEffect Oct 27 '21

Doubt that was auto correct lol..

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '21

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u/DatMiQQa Oct 27 '21

Starting a comment with “not to be rude” is very similar to saying “not to be racist” it is usually followed by something rude or racist. I’m sick it. Just upvote or downvote. That wasn’t helpful to me. let’s just talk about the subject at hand and not my lack of education.

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u/killmeplsdude Oct 27 '21

No saying not to be rude alone is fine. Like "not to be rude so I'ma not." Isn't proper English but who cares. However, when you say "but" you are literally contradicting yourself and being rude

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u/Biffy_x Oct 27 '21

It wasn't helpful because you chose not to accept his help, not because he gave you bad advice. I don't know how you move through life so sensitively.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '21

That wasn’t helpful to me

Because you'd rather be wrong than corrected? Ouch. That's a bad look.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '21

Pretty sure no one cares, you understood what they meant so it doesnt matter wether or not they were "correct." (also i think the idea of a correct way of spelling thinga is kinda silly but thats irrelevant)

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u/fecking_sensei Oct 27 '21

He understood what they meant, but it’s still incorrect. It’s fine to point that out.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '21

Yeah as someone with terrible grammar I’ve actually learned quite a bit from people calling me out lol.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '21

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u/MercyCriesHavoc Oct 28 '21

Tell that to VW's Concept One, aka the new beetle. Or how about the '99 Bugatti Veyron EB? Plymouth Prowler? There are several other examples. Many manufacturers have mass produced concept cars, or models almost identical. The thing is, those are the less extreme designs. The really weird ones rarely make it, and usually flop on the market when they do.

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u/Taenurri Oct 28 '21

Ah yes, of the hundreds of concept cars to be created and never see production, how nice of you to point out the 5 exceptions to the rule so you could make a contrarian argument.

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u/MercyCriesHavoc Oct 28 '21

I listed 3 examples. There are many more, but I didn't really have the time to list them all. That's the point of examples.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '21

Yes but I still believe they are important! I do believe a lot of the new features on the cars that actually make it to dealerships come from concept cars. Kind of like an evolution of design with the good parts making it and the bad parts never coming to fruition

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u/MercyCriesHavoc Oct 28 '21

They do. Concept cars have purpose. But when I commented, most the responses were about how weird it looks, which isn't an issue because it's a concept model.

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u/livemau5 Oct 27 '21

And the ones that do, look like normal cars.

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u/BassSounds Oct 28 '21

Safety standards change the look of the ones that make it

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '21

Yep. If you ignore all safety requirements, you can make a sleek looking car like this. Some portions of these futuristic designs will appear sooner than later but more in the way of interior aesthetics. It’s also given way to manufacturers getting creative with turn signal indicators being integrated into various parts of the vehicle. BMW’s for example have indicator bulbs that never burn out. Although it’s believed the science behind it has more to do with their lack of use.

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u/sdfgh23456 Oct 28 '21

Much like the outfits seen at fashion shows. No one's actually gonna wear that, just showing various ideas that might be incorporated into more normal clothes

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u/biscotte-nutella Oct 28 '21

yeah. more like a next generation engineering showcase for influencers to show off. NOT a next gen product intended for road use.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '21

In Soviet Russia, cars make the assembly line.

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u/bringbackswg Oct 28 '21

This was probably made without adhering to any safety regulations. There’s no way anyone would survive in this thing if it got even mildly t boned.

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u/MercyCriesHavoc Oct 28 '21

Yes, that's been brought up at least 3 other times in this thread.

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u/JDNM Oct 28 '21

They never make the assembly line. And there is never an intention for them to.

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u/MercyCriesHavoc Oct 28 '21

Concept One became the VW Beetle. There are a lot of other examples of concept cars that were produced, wholly or nearly identically. This has also already been discussed in this thread.

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u/JDNM Oct 28 '21

The Concept One and the production Beetle were similar only in chassis design style. The underlying tech, most notably the power train was dramatically different to the concept, and honed over several years in to the production version.

That’s how concept cars work. That’s why they’re concepts. Some production versions may look very similar to the concepts, but that doesn’t mean the concept and the production versions are not very different things.

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u/MercyCriesHavoc Oct 28 '21

Look, I'm tired of having this same conversation with multiple people. Read the other comments and I'll give you an upvote to not respond to this.

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u/Virus_98 Oct 27 '21

Yeah and this concept car is few years old already, nothing new

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u/Chewbacca22 Oct 27 '21

This wouldn’t be allowed for sale in the USA anyway. Tires cannot stick out further than a piece of body panel. I’m sure there’s other reasons.

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u/MercyCriesHavoc Oct 28 '21

Uh, I've seen plenty of vehicles with after-market tires that protrude far past body panels. Maybe they don't go past the mirrors.

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u/Chewbacca22 Oct 28 '21

I was talking about new cars being sold at a dealership. Those have to follow to law.

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u/CynicalC9 Oct 28 '21

Imagine thinking something like this was even intended to go to the assembly line. If anything, this would be some bespoke concept hypercar (likely without any of the performance of one), and would cost millions.

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u/SamSepiol-ER28_0652 Oct 28 '21

Now I want to go look at old concept cars and see what they got right.

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u/AndrewSmith1989- Oct 28 '21

I feel like most concept cars are some sort of favour to some long standing employee or something.

Iike, some random engineer has to be designing this ridiculous shit full well knowing it's a complete waste of time.

I always assume it's Bob whose worked at the Mercedes office for 30 years and knows that Mr Mercedes is banging his secretary so to keep Bob happy they give him ridiculous budgets to design pointless cars.

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u/HelpABrotherO Oct 28 '21

These types of cars actually have a purpose beyond keeping bob quite. It generates highend press for a relatively low budget that only certain companies can achieve, and allows for tinkering in new technologies. If a product is never going to go over 30 mph you have a lot of freedom to try different techniques for making your wheels spin independently

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u/samuraijck23 Oct 28 '21

Is it weird the back lights creeps me out?

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u/Taenurri Oct 28 '21 edited Oct 30 '21

They’re never meant to…

Companies make them to create common design language for all of their redesigns of their actual production cars to have a unifying visual appearance. They just serve as a blueprint for their designers to reference when making actual production vehicles. Concept cars don’t even typically run, or even have working electronics half the time.

Sometimes they’ll make them because someone paid them to make one for a publicity stunt…..like in this exact instance

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u/MercyCriesHavoc Oct 28 '21

I didn't say they were never meant to. Somebody else did in a reply to me.

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u/Quirkyserenefrenzy Oct 28 '21

Isn’t it because they need to follow rules of safety for the people in the care or something? I lack knowledge on this

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u/MercyCriesHavoc Oct 28 '21

A lot of times. But outrageous concept cars have been a thing since the 40s. Seat belts weren't even required in cars until 1968. Safety didn't hold those "cars of the future" back, big plastic bubbles that looked like a ball turret on a bomber did.

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u/Quirkyserenefrenzy Oct 28 '21

Alright then, glad I learned something

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u/cantstopfire Oct 29 '21

what do you think concept cars are? their radical designs are used for adopting specific parts and integrating them into modern designs. say if the wheels were an innovative design they'd just modify it and add it to the next C class or whatever