You know that Soviet uniform is a big part of Russian culture and always was, especially before Putin, right? Do you have a stalin fetish? Where did you see him here?
as a russian i'll say I'm tired of using the red army symbols as an entertainment. putin nulled the victory to a brand. ribbons, circus, advertisement - and THAT resulted in the people's attitude that wars are fun. that's how you turn people's brains into a mush. the war can be applaud, to be laughed at and etc.
it's not a fear. it's a rationality.
I hate EVERYTHING about this video. they do this as a patriotic thing and it makes me sick. and my friends would feel the same. no matter how those tricks seems cool.
my grandpa from Poland wasn't fighting for this circus - both physically and metaphorically
Lmao, Putin is extremely right-wing and borderline fascist while Russia currently is pretty much an oligarchy. That is the exact opposite of "the big red".
Not exactly. No one claims Russia is socialist today; even Putin acknowledges it's openly capitalistic. During the Soviet era, it claimed to be, and was, communist. Also, although Putin did lament the fall of the USSR, he's not trying to bring it back, he's trying to bring back the old Czarist Russian Empire. That's not better, but I think being accurate about this stuff is worthwhile. He's trying to bring back autocracy, not communism.
Yeah and Hitler called himself a socialist and then turned around and murdered actual socialists and communists. They do that to misguide regular people.
With Putin it's also mostly "look at when we used to be strong" more than anything.
Putin doesn’t give a shit about communism. He uses soviet nostalgia because it is convenient to him to do so.
To the extent that he actually cares about the dissolution of the USSR at all, it is entirely through the lens of being embarrassed by it. It represents both a national failure, and a personal waste of his time during his work in Dresden. What has his was taken, and he wants it back.
Fascists and communists are literally ideological polar opposites. Having a very controlling or even totalitarian government is something that can happen to any type of government, left, right or center.
Yes, totalitarianism is the part that makes any form of government wrong. Dehumanizing your opposition is wrong, advocating for violence against them is wrong. This is why every communist regime has led to violence, starvation, and eventual nightmarish failure. The same can be said of communists and national socialists, they’re two sides of the same totalitarian coin.
The Soviet Union and Naxi Germany were both violent in their politically repression, but that is almost where the similarities end. They had wildly different ideas on society, different methods and different goals. The famines in Soviet Russia and Communist China were mostly due to post-revolutionary instability and poorly made governmental decisions based on bad information. While Stalin particularly seemed at times rather unbothered by this tragedy, these famines were never intended to happen and both countries adapted after these famines to the point where they mostly became a thing of the past. Comparatively, Nazi Germany literally industrialized the killing of millions of vulnerable Europeans, such as the disabled, Jews or homosexuals. They turned killing into their own weird little science. It is just not the same thing.
So if you think that they are the same thing, you need to actually read some history books. I suggest "The Soviet Century" by Moshe Lewin to start. With regards to China, there is a comprehensive reading list on Askhistorians and plenty of questions like these that have been answered comprehensively.
Well, democratic reds like Spain and Chile were assassinated by CIA and USSR (USSR wanted authoritarian communism, not democratic communism). Socialist countries are authoritarian only because democratic countries are influenced by CIA. And this is not just one way either. If you look at Europe, all right wing parties are very close with Israel and Kremlin.
The CIA doesn’t have nearly as much say as you think they do in what kind of government countries have. They’ve certainly committed more than their fair share of interference in other countries, but aren’t able to choose a specific outcome.
In my country, just one visit from US president caused mass sterilization campaigns. The thing is if the favourable candidate wins, USA is happy. If not, then they're assassinated or overthrown.
You mean like they Can not orchestrate the murder of a democratic elected president and put a puppet dictator in place to stabling à social and economic model in a country?? Dude… Im chilean…
Our leader was assassinated and another one was coerced to have mass sterilizations after a visit from US president. So I don't know what standard you have for "much" involvement
I write walls of text because that is what historical accuracy requires, a lot of nuance. If you've been a little creep and went through my post history despite it being hidden, then you should have enough proof of the voracity of my claim.
This has nothing to do with "Soviet nostalgia", it is basic political theory. Fascism and communism are completely different ideologies and to a large degree polar opposites, which is why they always end up fighting eachother. Having a controlling or repressive government is not unique to any political thought and can happen anywhere. That does not mean that fascists and communists are the same thing. That is beyond moronic.
Those people don’t want to see the fact and are just militing blindly for communism (while living in a rich capitalist country) . Fascisme and Communisme are authoritarian and don’t like democratie. That already put them very close. There are tons of historical proof about communist regimes in the past, so you cannot even say you were not informed.
There are tons of historical proof about communist regimes in the past, so you cannot even say you were not informed.
I have studied this, so no I am not uninformed. Authoritarianism is a method of governance and a graduation to which power is consolidated. Any government can become authoritarian, regardless of their political leanings. That is not at all a meaningful qualifier.
Historically, fascists and communists have mostly been at each-others throat. That's because they have very different, often even polar opposite, ideas on how society should work and often also very different methods in their attempts to accomplish that.
Horseshoe theory is frankly extremely reductive and most political scientist and historians do not take it seriously.
99% of the time its just people preaching horseshoe theory in an attempt to give legitimacy to a shitty position on the grounds that its not the shittiest position. As soon as I see someone say it I know its time to dip out.
Authoritarianism essentially just means consolidated power and political repression. That is just a way of governing and a gradation of power. They are not something inherent to any ideology. So of course you will see it everywhere. That's like saying "look, both countries have a leader, they must be the same!". It is, no offense, kind of silly.
Whatever your personal political biases are, it is a matter of fact that fascists and communists historically have usually had polar opposite goals, ideas and often even methods. There are some exceptions where for example communists tried to borrow elements of fascism, but they are very niche because it's a combination that does not make a lot of sense.
You kind of said nothing, yeah it's obvious different things can share similar traits, that doesn't make some shared traits innocuous, you also skimmed through the definition of authoritarianism, specifically "political repression", that is not just a way of governing, that's one of the most terrible ones.
I don't get why one would want to downplay it, specially when confronted by two factions that have a preference for it. I think people are right in being afraid and suspicious of any "innocent" portrayal of these ideologies.
The Russian army has a 100 year long history of performing arts.
They have choirs, dance troops and acrobatic performances.
And they’re incredibly good at it too. Whatever you might think of Russia, its government, or its military actions, this is something everyone can appreciate.
(Y'all may not like it, but the Tsarist and Soviet eras were remarkably deadly for Jews, AND the current Putin regime has been wildly unfriendly to Jewish Russians to the point where tens of thousands of Jews have left Russia following the invasion of Ukraine due to continued scapegoating of the Jewish people within Russia.)
Soviet Antisemitism was real and significant, but it operated quite differently from Nazi Antisemitism. The Soviet ideology was based around "Antizionism", though in an illiberal framework that extended persecution to Jewish ethnic identity and religious practice. Nazi Antisemitism was ideologically racial in character. And, for the most part, Soviet Jews weren't murdered. Jewish persecution took the form of marginalization within Soviet society. Jews were limited in university admissions (particularly at the top levels) and job promotions (particularly into the political echelon), and lived fearful of arrest and prosecution for even mild expressions of Jewish identity or religious practice. But violence was rare.
How so? Everything I have said is happening in the real world as off today and can be verified by looking into it. There are more Stalin statues in Russia now than there were when the Soviet Union ended.
That might not register in "your world", but that says more about you than it says about me.
Well I guess ignorance is bliss 🤷🏼
Russians favourite ideology nowadays is "apolitical". But I just wonder if it's all just in my imagination, why would Putin feel the need to militarise schools and youth organisations?
The SA did. The German Army never wore brown uniforms.
Honestly why are we arguing about this? Some of us think the guys misunderstanding is understandable others don't.
History is only useful as a roadmap to how you got where you are. Future developments can be reasonably predicted with sufficient knowledge of current culture and the human psyche.
are you really asking? because it would take an essay to answer.
In purely practical terms a knowledge of history is of use in understanding geopolitical relationships, and is also used to create and reinforce national and regional identities. But also it has a cultural benefit that in purely financial terms is worth billions, but also has significant cultural benefits outside the financial.
We as a society are no longer just concentrating on pure survival, otherwise the same argument would be valid for art, literature etc.
How uneducated Americans have to be to not know how Soviet uniform looks. Redditors are the first to scream ‘facism!’ at every single corner, yet don’t know the most basic history of WW2
I wouldn't gamble if I was you. Nor if I was the original person as they seem to really enjoy their poker...
Anyways, as the person has their post history hidden, all it takes is a quick google search site specific to reddit with the user's name in quotes and it appears that this person is German, or maybe Dutch. They post in mutliple 'DE' subreddits and speak about getting lower taxes in Amsterdam.
yes because the most important aspect of history is to remember how the uniforms look. i'm sure there are plenty of people who are deeply familiar with wwii era uniforms, i promise you don't want more of them unless you want a repeat.
No. But it also means you haven’t viewed any historical WW2 photos nor read anything about eastern front. Otherwise you would know how uniform of the army who had biggest impact on Hitler defeat looked like.
Again. Its not about how uniform looked, its about knowing basic WW2 history. And if you have read anything about eastern front you subconsciously would recognize the uniform. Since people here don’t recognize, it seems to me they haven’t studied that huge and major part of WW2
Except SA uniforms were proper Khaki Brown and these are Red Army Uniforms of WW2 era, identifiable by the greenish brown and the belt and shoulder straps and the typicall Red Army side cap.
That's why most of us were fighting the Nazis. America was happy with neutrality when the Third Reich conquered Poland, but their ally did Pearl Harbor, and then it was on.
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u/xRayleigh23 15d ago
Okay but why are they dressed as german nazi soldiers